4, 60: roll down all four windows and go 60. I'm reliably advised by my mechanic and an a/c repair shop, as well as many commenters, that the repair is more than the car is worth, replaces a fatally flawed system with a fatally flawed system, and the car will rattle from the radical r&r operation that guts the old guts of the interior, which never go back as they were. The goo will glob up the rest of the hvac system. Lest you think me unfeeling, I love my W140. I just got back from a long hot trip, San Diego to LA and back today, with friends who are not as heat tolerant as I am, but they like the safety and comfort of the S class. It is what is, not was.