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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Wider rear wheels for my S-600.

Over the past few months, I've been thinking more and more about putting wider rear tyres on my S-600. I've done a little looking, and it seems that all the wide wheels are flashy and too large. I want wheels that look like what you get through AMG, but wider in size. For example, I was looking at the 19 inch wheels you get on the S-65, but 11 inches in width, not 9.5

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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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You think 11" are going to fit in the well?
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Why so wide? The S65 stock wheels are a great setup. The traction is quite reasonable. And even those involve a slightly different setup (the track of the S65 is 4mm wider than the S600, front and back; the rear wheel offset is 60mm vs. 44). You will certainly increase understeer and unsprung weight.

What were you planning for the front? The S65 is 8 1/2 up front and 9 1/2 rear. I'm not sure how much wider you could go without messing up the steering. If you stay at 8" up front and 11" rear, the stagger will make the understeer tanklike.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Why so wide? The S65 stock wheels are a great setup.
"The clearance from stut housing to the inside of the wheel will be 22mm LESS
The outside edge of the wheel will RETRACT in towards the body by 10mm"

Will these 9.5 fit on the S600 or do you have to mod? Think you could get 295's on these?
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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11s will not fit on any present day Mercedes to my knowledge (aside from specialty/race cars)
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Then what is the widest you could go?
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by whoover
(the track of the S65 is 4mm wider than the S600, front and back; the rear wheel offset is 60mm vs. 44)
Do you mean the axle or suspension parts / setup is different in the S65 than the S600 or just the wheel / tire selection?

The S600 Sport uses staggered 8.5 & 9.5 wheels 44 / 46 respectively on 18's.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Paganis Zonda
Over the past few months, I've been thinking more and more about putting wider rear tyres on my S-600. I've done a little looking, and it seems that all the wide wheels are flashy and too large. I want wheels that look like what you get through AMG, but wider in size. For example, I was looking at the 19 inch wheels you get on the S-65, but 11 inches in width, not 9.5

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19x10 with a 285/30/19 is as good as it gets and you have to have the perfect offset wheel to have this work.

19x9 in the front with a 245/35/19 will be no problem

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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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The track difference is listed in the manual as a chassis difference. I assume the geometry is different, probably to account for the wheels, which have the different offset. I also don't know if there are other rear suspension differences (besides the wider track) to accomodate the different offset. I don't know if the S65 wheels will fit on an S600 without rubbing, nor whether the different setup is needed to have the car handle optimally even if they fit. I'd ask the dealer or a MB wheel specialist if you're serious.

But I would suggest that PZ look into a setup like this before considering 11s. The improved traction from my S55 is very noticeable. I live on a mountain road and there are a couple of hairpins that would always trigger the ESP. It never comes on in the S65 on this road. And the big bugaboo of these heavy engines, understeer, is amazingly tame thanks to the ABC calibration, also different to account for the setup.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Just buy some Bridgestone Potenza RE01R's for the car, you dont need wider tires. Try it, trust me. They are the most kickass performance tire on the planet.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by newton22
11s will not fit on any present day Mercedes to my knowledge (aside from specialty/race cars)
Actually 11's is a fitment for the rear of the current SL and CLS.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fkong777
Actually 11's is a fitment for the rear of the current SL and CLS.
Are you sure? The AMGs come stock with 285s rears. 285 is a tad narrow for 11s.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by newton22
Are you sure? The AMGs come stock with 285s rears. 285 is a tad narrow for 11s.
If you look for wheels for SL and CLS in 20's HRE and Mayas has 20x9.5 & 20x11
There isnt any AMG 11 incher that I know of.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fkong777
If you look for wheels for SL and CLS in 20's HRE and Mayas has 20x9.5 & 20x11
There isnt any AMG 11 incher that I know of.
Actually, you are correct, the CLS AMGs do run 11s back. Sorry about that.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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not stock.
go 3 piece 10.5 inch, custom offset stretched tire
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