S55 ABC strut rebuild or replacement?
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S55 ABC strut rebuild or replacement?
can ABC struts be rebuilt? my 01 S55 has a leaking left rear strut and the dealer
wants $2k to replace the strut! Is there any source to rebuild these struts or a
less expensive source than the dealer ?
wants $2k to replace the strut! Is there any source to rebuild these struts or a
less expensive source than the dealer ?
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ABC is one of the most advanced mass production automotive systems ever engineered. It operates at almost 3,000 PSI and the struts are responsible for changing the length, stiffening and dampening of each corner within milliseconds of CPU instruction, based on 13 level and acceleration sensors. I wouldn't look to save money if any component of my ABC needed to be replaced.
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good point. I just thought there might be a less expensive source to get the struts rather than the dealer. tried some of the online oem parts sources but dont show the strut available for the ABC equipped cars.
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ABC is one of the most advanced mass production automotive systems ever engineered. It operates at almost 3,000 PSI and the struts are responsible for changing the length, stiffening and dampening of each corner within milliseconds of CPU instruction, based on 13 level and acceleration sensors. I wouldn't look to save money if any component of my ABC needed to be replaced.
It maybe the most advanced but it also the worse engineered, over price and it for the wrong car. We don't really benefit this system because most owner never really do any kind track event or even drive aggressive enough in every day driving to really benefit from the system.
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Definitely don't cut corners on suspension component's. The price from the dealer does seem a bit high though and I would think you can find a cheaper alternative.
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ABC is one of the most advanced mass production automotive systems ever engineered. It operates at almost 3,000 PSI and the struts are responsible for changing the length, stiffening and dampening of each corner within milliseconds of CPU instruction, based on 13 level and acceleration sensors. I wouldn't look to save money if any component of my ABC needed to be replaced.
ANYWAY...... The struts can be purchased new from OEMParts direct online. CPU instructions and PSI have nothing to do with paying 2.5 times what a part costs.
There is only about $150 dollar difference between the ABC application strut and the Airmatic strut.Nice PSA for airmatic systems, but all of that calculating BS is done on the car NOT the strut.
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ANYWAY...... The struts can be purchased new from OEMParts direct online. CPU instructions and PSI have nothing to do with paying 2.5 times what a part costs.
There is only about $150 dollar difference between the ABC application strut and the Airmatic strut.Nice PSA for airmatic systems, but all of that calculating BS is done on the car NOT the strut.
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I Have And 00 S430 With The Same Problem. If You Find Someone That Will Repair These Struts Let Me Know. I Need Help Also. I Got The Strut Out But Dont Want To Open It If Its Not Designed To Be Rebuilt.
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your conjecture is based on no facts. considering the mercedes ABC system is the only one of its kind in the automotive world, your quip that it is the worst engineered is nonsensical.
adding $10k+ to the msrp of the slk or clk in order to include the ABC system is out of the question and pointless. the curb weight does not justify it when springs and shocks work just fine. and how your can call it overpriced when there is not competitive system from another manufacturer i cannot understand.
this could be said of all mercedes, not just the s-class.
you have perched yourself behind the wrong steering wheel if you are looking for a good track car.
adding $10k+ to the msrp of the slk or clk in order to include the ABC system is out of the question and pointless. the curb weight does not justify it when springs and shocks work just fine. and how your can call it overpriced when there is not competitive system from another manufacturer i cannot understand.
you have perched yourself behind the wrong steering wheel if you are looking for a good track car.
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i doubt there will ever be a rebuild kit for ABC cars. no one has ever made one for the 6.9 shocks.
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Besides, ABC transforms the comfort of the heavy S-Class when cornering due to the marked decrease in body roll during normal driving. It doesn't improve its lap times so much as make normal twisty roads a joy to negotiate. It doesn't repeal the laws of physics, but it does a great job of making the car feel lighter and more stiffly sprung. That and variable suspension height are what ABC is designed to do, and it does them remarkably well.
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Import them from Germany by placing an order with MBENZNL. Much cheaper IIRC.
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1)your conjecture is based on no facts. considering the mercedes ABC system is the only one of its kind in the automotive world, your quip that it is the worst engineered is nonsensical.
2)adding $10k+ to the msrp of the slk or clk in order to include the ABC system is out of the question and pointless. the curb weight does not justify it when springs and shocks work just fine. and how your can call it overpriced when there is not competitive system from another manufacturer i cannot understand.
2)adding $10k+ to the msrp of the slk or clk in order to include the ABC system is out of the question and pointless. the curb weight does not justify it when springs and shocks work just fine. and how your can call it overpriced when there is not competitive system from another manufacturer i cannot understand.
1) Every single models that have this system failed in mechanical or/and electronic !!!! Almost everyone I know that own the S and CL class has problems with the system on very low mileages cars. It the worst engineered because a good engineered system is based on how well it built and how well it works NOT just what it does !!!
2) That at least $20K system on a car that 99.9% of the owners drive the speed limit and never ever see the track. I have never seen an S/CL on any track excepted in F1 racing and that because it just for advertise.They should have the air suspension system like on the E-class with trouble free.
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1) Every single models that have this system failed in mechanical or/and electronic !!!! Almost everyone I know that own the S and CL class has problems with the system on very low mileages cars. It the worst engineered because a good engineered system is based on how well it built and how well it works NOT just what it does !!!
2) That at least $20K system on a car that 99.9% of the owners drive the speed limit and never ever see the track. I have never seen an S/CL on any track excepted in F1 racing and that because it just for advertise.They should have the air suspension system like on the E-class with trouble free.
2) That at least $20K system on a car that 99.9% of the owners drive the speed limit and never ever see the track. I have never seen an S/CL on any track excepted in F1 racing and that because it just for advertise.They should have the air suspension system like on the E-class with trouble free.
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rebuilding front struts on 00 s430
I just replaced one rear struts myself and I have to say it wasnt very easy. after removing both back seats and shelf panel to access the bolts and air line connections I still had to remove the wheels and unbolt the lower control arm to get it out. I took it apart to see if it was repairable but all the parts are too specialized and the bag portion of it was torn. the ends of the bag clamped in a press type ring and the whole thing is house in a cylinder type cover. This is a self contained unit designed to be replaced. No messing with this one.
After getting around that I now have the dilemna of a failed front. I read that there is a rebuild kit w/part #s, tool and everything for around $180.00. Sounds good but does that repair the bag portion or the gas dampening portion of it. My problem is with both. The bag portion of it has come apart at the seat and the sealing collar is oil deteriorated by what looks like the leaking shock. Does anyone have any experience with rebuilding these hands on. I would greatly appreciate it. 00s430 w/Airmatic no abc
After getting around that I now have the dilemna of a failed front. I read that there is a rebuild kit w/part #s, tool and everything for around $180.00. Sounds good but does that repair the bag portion or the gas dampening portion of it. My problem is with both. The bag portion of it has come apart at the seat and the sealing collar is oil deteriorated by what looks like the leaking shock. Does anyone have any experience with rebuilding these hands on. I would greatly appreciate it. 00s430 w/Airmatic no abc
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I keep hearing of ABC failures. My SL55 is track driven regularly, as well as driven fairly hard, and has been flawless.
The ABC system transforms what should be a pig into a descent handling sportscar. The S65/63/600/500 cars that we have tuned make good use of the system as well.
I am surprised that nobody has come up with a standard shock/spring set up to replace them for owners not wishing to spend the money on them, like there are for Land Rover air suspensions.
The ABC system transforms what should be a pig into a descent handling sportscar. The S65/63/600/500 cars that we have tuned make good use of the system as well.
I am surprised that nobody has come up with a standard shock/spring set up to replace them for owners not wishing to spend the money on them, like there are for Land Rover air suspensions.
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I am getting mine replaced by a Independent Mercedes Tech. He charges $450.00. Parts is about $1150 for the new OEM rear ABC strut (Retail is $1,368.00). PM me if you want to get one. Mine was leaking pretty badly. Sucks. Regret getting ABC now. Will probably regret it even more if the other 3 fail too. Knock on wood. Anyways, the tech guy says that the system will need to be bled to force all the air bubbles out. I told him just to flush it with the new ABC oil and he said he was going to do that anyways. So $450 in labor isn't too bad considering he's doing all that. If you're in the Bay Area and need this done, PM me and I'll give you the contact. Damn Mercedes.....not what you expect from a $100k car.
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yup, I bit the bullet and went to the local dealer and spent about $1700 installed for a new left rear strut. they dont need to be replaced in pairs.
I dont think I would try to install one my self. after installing and flushing, they
"rodeoed" the suspension. everything is well now. hopefully none of the others go bad soon.
I dont think I would try to install one my self. after installing and flushing, they
"rodeoed" the suspension. everything is well now. hopefully none of the others go bad soon.
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I am getting mine replaced by a Independent Mercedes Tech. He charges $450.00. Parts is about $1150 for the new OEM rear ABC strut (Retail is $1,368.00). PM me if you want to get one. Mine was leaking pretty badly. Sucks. Regret getting ABC now. Will probably regret it even more if the other 3 fail too. Knock on wood. Anyways, the tech guy says that the system will need to be bled to force all the air bubbles out. I told him just to flush it with the new ABC oil and he said he was going to do that anyways. So $450 in labor isn't too bad considering he's doing all that. If you're in the Bay Area and need this done, PM me and I'll give you the contact. Damn Mercedes.....not what you expect from a $100k car.
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I bought my struts for Rover Revonations...Excellent company to deal with aifetime warranty
http://www.rover-renovations.com/MER...arts-s/527.htm
http://www.rover-renovations.com/MER...arts-s/527.htm
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The ABC sys is a very good system. the fluid mercedes uses is special in that it has an UNUSUALLY HIGH combustion temp (flash point) the stuff is almost non flammable.the only way to make it not burn is to load it down with additives Thats why MB and Pentisin is so concerned about shelf life (5yr) this sythetic based hyd oil breaks down in fewer heat cycles than one would expect from a hydralic fluid.. but then again the ABC fluid gets damn hot even in soft mellow driving unless u live at the bonneville salt flats and never leave !!. its mercedes quest for saftey that drives this need for THAT fluid (CH11) its the same deal with R230&R129 R170 convertible top fluid.. THAT stuff is almost non flammabel for a good reason with a potential fire source 12 inches from the noggin.so in other words ABC needs pertiodic fluid changes 20K or once a year MAX even tho the owners manual in my 03 SL55 mentions NOTHING about service intervals...
