Wheel Help
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'04 S600
Wheel Help
Will Stock CLS500 wheels fit W220's?
I've found a deal on some AMG wheels 18x8.5 and 9.5 off an '06 CLS that look better than my stock ones....but need to move on the deal.
Any help from the wheel guru's would be appreciated!
I've found a deal on some AMG wheels 18x8.5 and 9.5 off an '06 CLS that look better than my stock ones....but need to move on the deal.
Any help from the wheel guru's would be appreciated!
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I think you will need a spacer, since the offset is off.
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Those wheels will fit.
The offset has no bearing unless its a non mercedes wheel. ANd/OR it is a dramatic wheel size and chassis difference then I would be cautious.
Is it the same bolt pattern? Yes 5.112
Is the size and width the same? Yes 18X8.5 and 18.9.5
Will the offset allow to clear 4piston calipers? Yes they are AMG wheels.
IS the center bore correct? YES.. Factory Wheels 66.56 center bore..
I don't see where the problem is?
The offset has no bearing unless its a non mercedes wheel. ANd/OR it is a dramatic wheel size and chassis difference then I would be cautious.
Is it the same bolt pattern? Yes 5.112
Is the size and width the same? Yes 18X8.5 and 18.9.5
Will the offset allow to clear 4piston calipers? Yes they are AMG wheels.
IS the center bore correct? YES.. Factory Wheels 66.56 center bore..
I don't see where the problem is?
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So under your theory all Mercedes-Benz wheels are interchangeable? Offset has plenty of bearing as to whether the wheels will set flush with the fenders, stick way out, or rub on the inner fenders. That is why there are multiple wheel offerings from the wheel manufacturers and why some cars have the ability to run wider wheels/tires than others. The CL and the S-Class vehicles have similar offsets to their wheels. The CLS wheels do not have similar offsets and thus, would not fit well. There is a difference between fitting and actually fitting well and being able to be functional. I would stay away from the CLS offset wheels.
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So under your theory all Mercedes-Benz wheels are interchangeable? Offset has plenty of bearing as to whether the wheels will set flush with the fenders, stick way out, or rub on the inner fenders. That is why there are multiple wheel offerings from the wheel manufacturers and why some cars have the ability to run wider wheels/tires than others. The CL and the S-Class vehicles have similar offsets to their wheels. The CLS wheels do not have similar offsets and thus, would not fit well. There is a difference between fitting and actually fitting well and being able to be functional. I would stay away from the CLS offset wheels.
Well,,,, I;m not going to claim any theories here.. But You're actually right.. I was thinking more of the CL when I mentioned similar body styles... The CLS in an 18" has 8 to 10mm difference in offset than the S or the CL depending on the wheel... Thats a lot and a bit of a gamble for fitment. My bad...
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wheel fitment between OEM wheels should boil down to the following variables
- offset
- wheel width
- ball seat radius
- bolt diameter
- bolt length
- bolt pattern should already be same 5-112
- centerbore should be 66.5mm
- offset
- wheel width
- ball seat radius
- bolt diameter
- bolt length
- bolt pattern should already be same 5-112
- centerbore should be 66.5mm
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I appreciate the insight, but that's what I'm trying to figure out. How many of these items do the S600 and CLS have in common?
Is there a chart available that shows compatability between models/styles?
I thought this would be a quick "yes or no" answer.....guess not.
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sorry, no. there is no definitive chart showing cross reference compatibility.
one would need to find OEM wheel specs and extrapolate. in my case, I was
looking at 211 rims for my 210 car. the bolt diameter and ball seat were in-
compatible. the length was much shorter with the newer rims, since the
cross section of the wheel (at the bolt) was much thinner. the offset placed
the front wheel too close to the fender lip, requiring that I roll it out first, and
go with 1 size narrower tire. so, much reading and piecing the specs together.
note that in the above, even same (E)class cars may use different wheel specs
and lug bolts. devil in the details. luckily, i found custom bolt maker who had
just begun to ramp up making the needed bolts as part of their regular produc-
tion so the cost plummeted and I got off cheap.
Dealer *could* be a good source, or you search the appropriate and respective
forums to highlight each of the identified specs first....and/or searching across
forums on the chance that others have done this.
good luck
one would need to find OEM wheel specs and extrapolate. in my case, I was
looking at 211 rims for my 210 car. the bolt diameter and ball seat were in-
compatible. the length was much shorter with the newer rims, since the
cross section of the wheel (at the bolt) was much thinner. the offset placed
the front wheel too close to the fender lip, requiring that I roll it out first, and
go with 1 size narrower tire. so, much reading and piecing the specs together.
note that in the above, even same (E)class cars may use different wheel specs
and lug bolts. devil in the details. luckily, i found custom bolt maker who had
just begun to ramp up making the needed bolts as part of their regular produc-
tion so the cost plummeted and I got off cheap.
Dealer *could* be a good source, or you search the appropriate and respective
forums to highlight each of the identified specs first....and/or searching across
forums on the chance that others have done this.
good luck
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{add to the above, big brake clearance requirements}
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Those wheels will fit.
The offset has no bearing unless its a non mercedes wheel. ANd/OR it is a dramatic wheel size and chassis difference then I would be cautious.
Is it the same bolt pattern? Yes 5.112
Is the size and width the same? Yes 18X8.5 and 18.9.5
Will the offset allow to clear 4piston calipers? Yes they are AMG wheels.
IS the center bore correct? YES.. Factory Wheels 66.56 center bore..
I don't see where the problem is?
The offset has no bearing unless its a non mercedes wheel. ANd/OR it is a dramatic wheel size and chassis difference then I would be cautious.
Is it the same bolt pattern? Yes 5.112
Is the size and width the same? Yes 18X8.5 and 18.9.5
Will the offset allow to clear 4piston calipers? Yes they are AMG wheels.
IS the center bore correct? YES.. Factory Wheels 66.56 center bore..
I don't see where the problem is?
That car as AMG package too
