S-Class (W220) 1999-2006: S 320 CDI, S 320, S430, S 500, S 600

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Old Jan 13, 2002 | 02:45 AM
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There will be a S-Class 'facelift' for MY03 and is scheduled to be released in mid-October '02. ...RAB

Also, the 4Matic S430V-4M and the S500V-4M will be released in early November. ...RAB

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Old Jan 13, 2002 | 02:51 AM
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Any set details, Robert?

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One more thing - any mention of the 4MATIC that was rumored to come with the facelift?

And I read once that the S400 CDI might be introduced. Will this happen? Or, rather, do you think this would happen? (Similarly, I also heard the E200 CDI and E400 CDI would be introduced.) Is there a market in the US for diesels these days?

And will the CL facelift also come with the S facelift?

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Old Jan 13, 2002 | 03:27 AM
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Damn, you beat me. I wrote my edit before I saw yours. :p
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Old Jan 13, 2002 | 10:06 AM
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Negative on the CDI. The US diesel fuel quality (sulfur content too high) doesn't make the grade at this time. Maybe in the future. ...RAB

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And I read once that the S400 CDI might be introduced. Will this happen? Or, rather, do you think this would happen? (Similarly, I also heard the E200 CDI and E400 CDI would be introduced.) Is there a market in the US for diesels these days?
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Old Jan 13, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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Okay, got it! Thanks Robert

It's good to have somebody on board with all the scoops...

Oh, couple more I just thought of...why only the S430 and S500 for the 4MATIC?

And any chance, in your opinion, that the US will get the S350?
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Okay, got it! Thanks Robert

And any chance, in your opinion, that the US will get the S350?
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Oh, couple more I just thought of...why only the S430 and S500 for the 4MATIC?
What about this though? Do you have any idea, RAB?
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Christopher,

I'm not certain I understand your question. Please elaborate.

Adding the S-Class to the 4Matic family will include the C-Class, E-Class and M-Class. Oh, and let's not forget the G-Class. ...RAB

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What about this though? Do you have any idea, RAB?
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 12:23 AM
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Robert,

You're absolutely right. Let me reword this whole thing: In the US market, we currently have the 4 S-Class models. Why, with this facelift, are only the S430 and the S500 receiving the 4MATIC option? Do the S55 and S600 have little or nothing to gain from it? Or is the technology just incompatible with those models? Or something I'm really not thinking of?

I think that's what I meant...
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Any updates on the prices for MY03 S-Class?
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Per my previous post, not until very near the launch date. ...RAB

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Any updates on the prices for MY03 S-Class?
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Economies of scale, I should think. It doesn't make sense to add 4-Matic to such limited production vehicles, especially with the high cost of certification for the US market. And, there's the issue of a beefed up system requirement to handle the extra torque and horsepower. ...RAB

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Robert,

You're absolutely right. Let me reword this whole thing: In the US market, we currently have the 4 S-Class models. Why, with this facelift, are only the S430 and the S500 receiving the 4MATIC option? Do the S55 and S600 have little or nothing to gain from it? Or is the technology just incompatible with those models? Or something I'm really not thinking of?

I think that's what I meant...
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 05:23 AM
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I get it. I guess it would sure be odd passing by a car on the road and reading S600 4MATIC, or even worse, the S55 AMG 4MATIC. Lol.

Good thing I'm taking AP Economics this year, so I know what economies of scale means. Yay!
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