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Can a S500 be badged S55 if swaped with 55 motor??

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Old 05-23-2008 | 07:22 AM
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If you can't join the AMG private lounge, then there should not be AMG's badges on your car. There is no way an engine swap makes it an AMG.
Old 05-23-2008 | 08:43 AM
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lol i am part of the amg lounge i have a 01 clk55amg


i was just asking about the engine swap to a 5.5, and if someone did do it how would they badge there car??
Old 05-23-2008 | 09:38 AM
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Performance products.. They are the Shantz Brand.
Old 05-23-2008 | 12:37 PM
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Performance products.. They are the Shantz Brand.
The only problem they shoot the exhaust from the bottom right? I am looking for some that shoot the exhaust out the actual tips.
Old 05-23-2008 | 12:37 PM
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'My car (2004) came with the AMG sport package that included the 18" AMG wheels. I sold them to a member here.
I've had the Quads for over a year now.. You probably didn't see them cuz they tuck so nice...

Here is a shot from last year

Where is your AMG body???
Old 05-23-2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by S5LorinserF1
lol i am part of the amg lounge i have a 01 clk55amg
i was just asking about the engine swap to a 5.5, and if someone did do it how would they badge there car??
It would make no sense financially to do this, not much for debate.

1. Sell> S500 OR S430
2. Buy> S55
Old 05-23-2008 | 02:45 PM
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Old 05-23-2008 | 02:55 PM
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Where is your AMG body???
You're looking at it.. the Facelift Amg Sport package came with front and rear bumpers that have the little flair at the bottom that's a little different than the stock which is rounder at the bottom. Also where it meets the wheel well has a flair also and the side skirts as well. Without the package is straight side skirts and rounder rear bumper. Thats how it comes that year along with 18" AMG rims per my delivery sheet.

They stopped making the AMG kit that you see on member Gondon's car for example with the facelifts and went with a more aerodymanic less bulky looking enhancement. But still gave it a little more aggressive appearance.

Here is a member with the same year car without the package..

https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w220/245291-benz_addict-s-w220-thread.html

This is a nice car also but you can see how the rear is more rounded at the bottom around the wheel wells and in the back. This is a different bumper as it is a few inches shorter at the bottom and it doesn't contour the rear wheel as much.

Including the actual AMG bumper, there are about 6 rear bumper deviations on this car from 2002-2006. And there are 5 front bumper designs..
Of course none of the facelift bumpers for the front will fit prefacelift cars and vise versa. I think the rears will all work with the exception of the AMG with the cut-out apron.

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Old 05-23-2008 | 04:37 PM
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None to speak of..New "updated" Cats ( made a huge difference ),Acelerator module ( new ), Different Camshaft sensor (very noticeable performance difference). my "Fancy" airbox, And I did have me Dealer download some "New" software recently and since then my car freakin Screams!! I lost about 2 to 3 mpg average,(21/23 versus 23/26) but The shifting, Take-off, and intermediate power is great!!..

Other than that. I always have clean air filtering, and good fuel pressure.. This keeps the engine at its peak at all times...

People say the 430 is weak, But I can still twist the rubber of my rear tires with no problems...And put a nice gap between myself and the rest of traffic at take-off.... My 0-to 60 is right the rating for 2004. Which is a little faster than pre facelift versions...
what do you mean updated cats
Old 05-23-2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by my06clk
You're looking at it.. the Facelift Amg Sport package came with front and rear bumpers that have the little flair at the bottom that's a little different than the stock which is rounder at the bottom. Also where it meets the wheel well has a flair also and the side skirts as well. Without the package is straight side skirts and rounder rear bumper. Thats how it comes that year along with 18" AMG rims per my delivery sheet.

They stopped making the AMG kit that you see on member Gondon's car for example with the facelifts and went with a more aerodymanic less bulky looking enhancement. But still gave it a little more aggressive appearance.

Here is a member with the same year car without the package..

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245291

This is a nice car also but you can see how the rear is more rounded at the bottom around the wheel wells and in the back. This is a different bumper as it is a few inches shorter at the bottom and it doesn't contour the rear wheel as much.

Including the actual AMG bumper, there are about 6 rear bumper deviations on this car from 2002-2006. And there are 5 front bumper designs..
Of course none of the facelift bumpers for the front will fit prefacelift cars and vise versa. I think the rears will all work with the exception of the AMG with the cut-out apron.


????????? are you sure about that I have two buddies that one has a 04 s430 sport and the other an 04 s500 sport with the same exact body styling both cars are not aftermarket, but original from the dealer. I also searched ebay an found an 04 s430 sport http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m350062657836&
with the same exact kit as there's. Here is an 05 s500 sport with the same body styling of the 04
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m310048468235&
I think something is wrong here or I am really confused.

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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jfendis430
????????? are you sure about that I have two buddies that one has a 04 s430 sport and the other an 04 s500 sport with the same exact body styling both cars are not aftermarket, but original from the dealer. I also searched ebay an found an 04 s430 sport http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m350062657836&
with the same exact kit as there's. Here is an 05 s500 sport with the same body styling of the 04
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m310048468235&
I think something is wrong here or I am really confused.
I don't know why they did that, but they did. they've done crazier.... BUt thery really did some weird things with option choices in these years.. it all depends on how you ordered the car or maybe the build date I don;t know.. I have a feb 2004 car so those might be earlier build models because you don;t see that kit on any of the newer vrsions...... THey all say AMG sport package so go figure... Like I said That how mine came and its on the order sheet that way.
Old 05-23-2008 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by my06clk
I don't know why they did that, but they did. they've done crazier.... BUt thery really did some weird things with option choices in these years.. it all depends on how you ordered the car or maybe the build date I don;t know.. I have a feb 2004 car so those might be earlier build models because you don;t see that kit on any of the newer vrsions...... THey all say AMG sport package so go figure... Like I said That how mine came and its on the order sheet that way.
Did you buy the car new? I always thought it if did not have the bodystyling of the ones like the e-bay models mentioned above it was just a NON-SPORT go figure maybe someone here and confirm?

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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jfendis430
Did you buy the car new?
No...

It was a year and change old but I have friends who sell at MB dealers so i got a copy of the delivery sheet before I bought it because I was wondering how it got the 18" AMG's on it. But that's the option that it had listed.
I am the second owner.
Old 05-23-2008 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by my06clk
No...

It was a year and change old but I have friends who sell at MB dealers so i got a copy of the delivery sheet before I bought it because I was wondering how it got the 18" AMG's on it. But that's the option that it had listed.
I am the second owner.
Maybe the original owner ordered the AMG wheels only? I could swear that your model is the non-sport. Do get me wrong it looks great. im just asking because mine is a 2002 non-sport and looks identical to yours excluding the taillights, headlights,hood/grill, and of course the interior. here is a pic of mine with a similiar angle pic that you posted.
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Oh yeah.. there was also the deletion of the SXXX Sport. You won;t see many of those after 2004 either. Maybe thats why..

They did the same thing with the W203 Sport and the W211 Sport.

I don;t know why... but I honestly like the smoother side, although Oi would prefer the other front bumper.. The one I don;t like is he roud rear with no lines at all.. there is a big difference in the look form the rear.
Old 05-23-2008 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by my06clk
Oh yeah.. there was also the deletion of the SXXX Sport. You won;t see many of those after 2004 either.

No I dont agree. If you type for example 2006 s430 sport or s500 sport it the same body kit As i mentioned above. there is like 25 of them on ebay with the same kit.
Old 05-23-2008 | 07:18 PM
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LOL MY06CLK

You got ****ed!! Dealer played you and so did that peice of paper.

I repeat you do not have the "AMG Sport Package"

Im 100% confident you dont have the Sport Package.

Go to your dealer and be like "Whats going on my invoice says I had the Sport Package, but its not on the car then they have to perfrom by contract".

Its just like JDfenis said and his pics from Ebay
Old 05-23-2008 | 07:21 PM
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Old 05-23-2008 | 07:26 PM
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LOL MY06CLK

You got ****ed!! Dealer played you and so did that peice of paper.

I repeat you do not have the "AMG Sport Package"

Im 100% confident you dont have the Sport Package.

Go to your dealer and be like "Whats going on my invoice says I had the Sport Package, but its not on the car then they have to perfrom by contract".

Its just like JDfenis said and his pics from Ebay
That's what I think as well...I know these cars pretty well and it just doesn't look like it has the amg bodykit. The dealer will probably tell him to go scratch since he is not the original owner, but if you bought the car from the dealer????? hey its worth a shot see if you can get a kit out of them
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no yellow triangle in the middle of the instrument cluster?
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Originally Posted by my06clk
None to speak of..New "updated" Cats ( made a huge difference ),Acelerator module ( new ), Different Camshaft sensor (very noticeable performance difference). my "Fancy" airbox, And I did have me Dealer download some "New" software recently and since then my car freakin Screams!! I lost about 2 to 3 mpg average,(21/23 versus 23/26) but The shifting, Take-off, and intermediate power is great!!..

Other than that. I always have clean air filtering, and good fuel pressure.. This keeps the engine at its peak at all times...

People say the 430 is weak, But I can still twist the rubber of my rear tires with no problems...And put a nice gap between myself and the rest of traffic at take-off.... My 0-to 60 is right the rating for 2004. Which is a little faster than pre facelift versions...
you need to stop racing stock 96 Mustang GTs.

Your car weighs 4100lbs, it makes 275bhp. The "mods" as you call them are worth maybe 20bhp. Then again, that great fuel pressure you have may make the difference (im being sarcastic if you missed it).

That power to weight ratio puts you in the Stock 96 mustang Gt range, which is to say, not real good.


your car does not scream, nor is it fast. It is mildly quick, but it would most likely get waxed by a new V6 accord.
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Originally Posted by my06clk
Oh yeah.. there was also the deletion of the SXXX Sport. You won;t see many of those after 2004 either. Maybe thats why..

They did the same thing with the W203 Sport and the W211 Sport.

I don;t know why... but I honestly like the smoother side, although Oi would prefer the other front bumper.. The one I don;t like is he roud rear with no lines at all.. there is a big difference in the look form the rear.
Stick your VIN in here and see if it has the sport package listed.

http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/view.html

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Stick your VIN in here and see if it has the sport package listed.

http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/view.html

Even if it does the last owner prob scraped it and sold it for $$ haha.
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People say the 430 is weak, But I can still twist the rubber of my rear tires with no problems...And put a nice gap between myself and the rest of traffic at take-off....
Completely agreed. Had quite a bit of time piloting an S430 4Matic every now and then, and that thing is no slouch. Enough grunt to keep yourself ahead of a large majority of traffic, and frankly, no noteworthy performance difference between our prior RWD 2002 S500, from the seat of the pants feel. That car is more than adequate for daily driving.
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Originally Posted by jfendis430
No I dont agree. If you type for example 2006 s430 sport or s500 sport it the same body kit As i mentioned above. there is like 25 of them on ebay with the same kit.
Yeah youre right I just got home tonight and took anther look at my Netstar
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I have no idea where I got that from.. Too many cars I guess.. as you can see it just says 646 18" 5 spoke alloy's .. Those must have been the AMG's that I removed.. It's unlikely the original owner swapped them, he traded this car for some big duelly truck at a ford dealer.. That's where I scooped it.

Originally Posted by oliverk
you need to stop racing stock 96 Mustang GTs.

Your car weighs 4100lbs, it makes 275bhp. The "mods" as you call them are worth maybe 20bhp. Then again, that great fuel pressure you have may make the difference (im being sarcastic if you missed it).

That power to weight ratio puts you in the Stock 96 mustang Gt range, which is to say, not real good.


your car does not scream, nor is it fast. It is mildly quick, but it would most likely get waxed by a new V6 accord.

Yeah its fast (enough)..LOL And you have no idea what the hell you are talking about..

winning a race is all about the person behind the wheel not how much your car weigh's or how fast it is..But lets not go there.

I did have a humorous story about a teenager in miami and a cobra to share with the person I was originally taking to, but since you've spilled Hater-Aid all over it I'll decline. HOnda accord Please.. IS that what you drive??

Originally Posted by gondon

Even if it does the last owner prob scraped it and sold it for $$ haha.
You really need to grow up. your childish comments are really getting old.
And learn how to spell what are you 12?
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