Cylinder 1-6 Misfire. My mechanic think to replace coil pack. Is it possible to fix the coil, or where can i buy a cheaper coil. Do you think its possible that something else is wrong other then the coil. The coil is very expensive and im trying to make sure im making the correct decision.

Thanks for any help or any good advise.

 

coil pack is a very common failure item on s600, that is probably whats wrong

 

Cylinders 1-6 is the passenger side.

If it's cylinders 1-6 or 7-12 that are misfiring then it's certainly the coil pack. If it's a mix of cylinders/random numbers then it could be either both coil packs or the voltage converter (box that sits in the middle of the valve covers)

Part Number:
A 275 150 06 80 (Passenger Side)
A 275 150 07 80 (Driver's Side)

These are MSRP $1250.00 at the dealer... or $1100 on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...#ht_2057wt_936

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...#ht_2057wt_936

 

I would never buy anything off fleabay, nothing but counterfeit items there.

Used Oxy's part number
http://www.parts.com/oemcatalog/inde...archCatalogOEM

862.50

 

parts.com is good.

if you want to take chances, dont do ebay. but 4 mercedes has them for $599
http://4-mercedes.com/v12.aspx

beware lots of bad experiences with them but some people do get good parts

 

Thank you.
This $599 is great price.

 

We also offer tuning for 55, 600 and 65s - from mild to wild. Currently we are
Working on a S65 engine and we try to get 1600 HP out of it.

Right, they make the parts in their basement.

 

I change the coil pack. Car was running ok for few hours. I got check engine lights on Again.
Misfire on 1,2,3 and 5.
Any Idea, Please Help

 

did you buy your coilpack from 4motronix/4mercedes? if so, yours will fail like mine did that I bought from them and they will never answer your e mails or calls to replace it. your next step is what I did get it from this mercedes dealer $975,
http://www.mbzwholesaleparts.com/par...&siteid=215317
brand new and you will have no problems. I wish I had read all the negative comments about them before I purchased mine. FYI I have had the BBB and FL consumer advocates after then, no response. everyone else beware!

 

TERRIBLE! I would NEVER buy "rebuilt" V12 components or ABC parts from some company that says "Only if it fails is it pricey. These cars were made for people with money" and "Currently we are Working on a S65 engine and we try to get 1600 HP out of it."

 

wow, Oxygen what a pompous and pious attitude. I thought mercedes, to include the s class, were cars for people that appreciated fine high quality automobiles. I would like to thank you for setting me straight that an S class is only for the rich and famous. Although I am sure you chose your career path that would make you filthy rich and condescending, some of us took a career path that made us happy, productive citizens that appreciate what we have and other people, regardless of their social status. If I choose to put a rebuilt part on my mercedes S class, it is my choice, it does not deface the value of the car or me. Just because you evidently are filthy rich and can drop thousands of dollars needlessly at the drop of a hat for no other reason than to prove your social worth or manhood, so be it. I choose to use my money where it does the most good, helping others. Now, if you are so hurt by my appalling actions, feel free to write me a check to cover the next coil pack that might fail. I will cash the check and send it to someone who needs it more and buy my part wherever and from whoever I please............

 

Hey Xliemx717,
Maybe you should take a minute and jump off your high horse and reread Oxygen's last post! He was just quoting the company YOU did business with not him! Nice job.

 

sorry, DRTLNDY you are correct, I miss read the post. I thought he was saying that. Oxygen, I am sorry. I have never seen this advertisement. thanks, this will further help my case with FL consumer advocate.........

 

You might also want to keep in mind that Oxygen has been one of THE best sources for help and information on the W220.

He has helped MANY here on this forum, and is a pioneer on modding them.

I understand it was a simple miss reading issue. But I would advise you my friend, to think twice before you jump here.

Take care and good luck

 

Hello, I have a 2001 Mercedes s600, recently the check engine light is on, but some time off, it shows cylinder 8 and 9 missfire when check engine light on, my friend told me it might need to replace the o2 sensor, which of the two o2 sensor for cylinder 8 and 9? are they in front or rear? also, where they are located? My car has some engine oil leaking from the bottom, it might cause the o2 sensor fail. Please help!!!

 

I have a 2001 Mercedes s600, recently the check engine light is on, but some time off, it shows cylinder 8 and 9 misfire when check engine light on, my friend told me it might need to replace the o2 sensor, which of the two o2 sensor for cylinder 8 and 9? are they in front or rear? also, where they are located? My car has some engine oil leaking from the bottom, it might cause the o2 sensor fail. Please help!

 

If the O2 sensors need replacing (without having failed completely) you can look at their behaviour through most OBD2 readers. Look for 02 sensors outputs, or short term fuel trim readings. In the cruise, the primary/control sensors output should oscillate a few times a second, while the secondary/diagnostic sensors should show steady output. If they're OK, and there aren't any rich/lean mixture warnings, then they're probably OK.

Misfires can be caused by a lot of things, not just coil packs (though they are common). Its worth trying to cross off all the other things first. Look for errors in all the other sensors; replace the fuel & air filters; could there be any vacuum leaks; are the spark plugs OK; water in the fuel; etc?

 

I thought I'd share some of my recent experience. My S600 BiTurbo has been intermittently mis-firing and setting the MIL light for about three months. The symptoms were those of a bad coil pack, but I didn't want to rush into throwing an expensive solution at what might be a simple problem.

My DTC's were also showing mixture problems, and the long-term mixture adjustment was well out. I didn't think a coil pack would fix that, and since there's no MAF sensor, I looked at the pressure, temp and O2 sensors.

First I replaced the two control O2 sensors. Though the new ones seemed to perform better, with faster output response and steady control sensor outputs, the misfire remained.

Second I replaced the MAP sensor that's connected by a short tube to the RHS intake cooler. That made no difference whatsoever.

Then I bit the bullet and replaced the RHS coil pack (the LHS one had already been replaced with the new P/N type). Now I was able to use full throttle for the first time, but occassional misfires still persisted, often on light running.

The I realised like an idiot that the MAP sensor I replaced wasn't the one used for mixture control - that was the sensor that's screwed to the front of the intake manifold. So I replaced that, and all the misfires instantly disappeared. Unfortunately I forgot to tighten one of the intake hoses, and I had an air leak and loss of boost.

However, this showed I'd really had a mixture problem all along, which made me wonder whether I'd really had a bad coil pack after all, and what would it have been like if I had replaced the primary MAP first. Curiosity got the better of me, so in the name of scientific understanding and the greater good of the V12TT turbo nutters community, I refitted the old coil pack.

I took the opportunity to fix the intake leak, but unwittingly created another one, so while I had a car that behaved itself, there was still no Eutopia behind the wheel. Thinking that I may have been premature in buying the coil pack, I wondered if the old one was in fact serviceable, allowing me to sell the new one for a reasonable price.

Sadly not. The misfires returned on longer runs, seemingly when the engine was thoroughly warmed-up (much as it had always been). So tomorrow the new coil pack goes back in, hopefully to weave its magic with the new O2 & MAP sensors - and hopefully no more damned air leaks! Maybe this weekend I'll finally find out what a Eurocharged S600 can actually do.

If I have time I'll look at the subframe mountings to see if they're worn and causing some bump-wriggle. I'll take the front bumper off and see whether I can fit a large heat exchanger and upgrade the IC pump. Sound 8 is just TOO excited with his car to ignore. I'm also going to pull the old coil pack apart and have a play with it sometime; see if I can see or measure anything wrong.

Its all a bit of a labour of love, isn't it?

Nick

 

so your coil pack failed after a eurocharged tune too?

 

Yup.

 

Well, I think I finally got everything working OK this weekend, but it took until last night to find out. I've replaced two O2 sensors, two MAP sensors, and the RHS coil pack. No more lights, no more misfires, no more DTCs - but also no opportunity to put my foot down due to dithering commuters. That is, until an old friend appeared unexpectedly on the doorstep last night, and we just had to go out for a drive, and I (and he) got to experience for the first time in three months what 700lb-ft of torque can do with even a big car. Finally! now I know what everyone's been going on about.....

Nick

 

now enjoy her!

 

this has just happened to my car too ! is this all true Eurocharge does bad tunes mate ? I am in Australia , what did you guys do to rectify all this????