m3rxn

Just wondering if this is a very labor intensive job? thanks in advance..

MRAMG1

Without actually doing it myself, I'll take the bet that it is VERY labor intensive. You might even have to raise the engine. Just ask ANY MB shop the question, then look into it yourself.

Bottom line, OOOOHHHH Yeah, It is going to cost you.

On another point, I have NEVER heard of one going bad?

xlr8tin

Wow, this is a crappy answer! Well I'm looking into a 2003 S600 and the oil pan needs to be replaced...so can someone actually answer this question please? I'd like to know

Becks Imports

$900 at a shop, pain in the *** to do.

Bruce

xlr8tin

Hmmm....

Lifting the engine?

babyman1737

Keep listening to the people who have never done the task before.....

MRAMG1

Imagine that, my crappy answer was right

Thanks Bruce, didn't have time to look it up as I knew it was a PIA.

haoz129

It could be a big job depends on which part of the oil pan you gonna to do.

There are two parts of Engine Oil Pan: bottom which hold the oil, top which connect to the crankcase.

For the bottom oil pan, off 13 M6 bolts and lower the pan. To install, clean the old seal/gasket thoroughly then apply new seal, bolt on. There is no real gasket to order, seal/gasket maker need to be used. You have to understand how to apply the seal.

For the top oil pan, seems the engine will be held then the front sub-frame will need to be lowered to give space to maneuver top oil pan out. This is more complex then the bottom oil pan remove for sure.

I never did it nor even think about doing so. Above is MB process.

Howard

xlr8tin

And look at that...a REAL answer ^...Thanks Howard! And thanks Bruce

haoz129

My pleasure, Xlr8tin.

Sorry, but don't upset Mr. AMG. He was trying to help in the first place.

I'm just a parrot having no better experience than others.

Best regards.

Howard

babyman1737

I must be really dumb or maybe just plain retarded. Or I misunderstand the question?

This is the easiest job ever. Remove about 10 bolts, scrape off old gasket, squeeze on a new gasket with the black gasket maker. I did this about 6 months ago, seemed pretty easy to me? Took maybe 1 hr?

MRAMG1

Oh please, let me know when was the last time you changed your own oil

And IF you do, then we can talk about swapping out cams, diffs, trannies, your pick

Get over yourself my friend. My answer was to simply state that it was probably NOT in his best interest to DIY it.

IF it was only the lower pan, have at it.

My bet is you would not

Have fun special one.

And YES, thanks Bruce and Howard as you guys really do help all of us.

xlr8tin

You're joking right?

I mean come on. A new guy comes on and asks an innocent question, and you respond by being a smart *** to him...Did I miss something?

And yes, I'd love to talk cams and all that. I have a project 2002 in my gargage I'm working on

MRAMG1

Please show me how I was a smart ***

I simply stated that it would NOT be an easy job

AS far as engine building, cams and diffs, please send me a PM and I will gladly talk about all day. I have been doing the car thing for over 30 years now. Raod raced for almost 20. This thread is NOT the best place for this talk, IMHO.

What's your project?

xlr8tin

I'm just going to say sorry. I think I must have misunderstood. And you right, this isn't the place. specially to fight.. So let's be friends

Quickly though, I just bought a 1971 BMW 2002. I have an M20/ 5 speed, LSD with half shafts to put in. Kinda waiting for spring to start tearing down. Many have told me it's not hard to get more out of the M20, but my knowledge is limited to engine internals like cams and other details.

classyS

i dont mean to thread jack, but Mr. AMG - have u beat your best 1/4 mile time yet??

phucking beast.

MRAMG1

I'll be heading out next month to the drags with a few new tricks.

Thanks for asking.