aasim305

my s430 have over 100k miles what oil should i use? i was thinking about using lubro molly 5W40??

babyman1737

Mobil1 0w40, same as everyone else.

alkemist

Agreed. Great synthetic; this oil performs very well.

Das Geld 2

My shop uses Castrol..Am I the only one? lol

MB-Dude

+2 Good quality synthetic oil at a reasonable price. For daily drivers, it's good value.
Cheers,
Jeff

Sgt. Schultz

where are you guys sourcing and @ what rate?

Any bulk? (srsly)... oil changes here (me/her) mean 18.5qts - yay! Pouring a quajillion tiny bottles grows old... and doesn't provide disposal storage (lame).

used to buy gallon jugs (mmm, jugs... bbbbbBbbbbbBb) @ Wallyworld, but their viscosity selection blowzorz

I got cases from my distributor which came out to be like $6.83/qt or so (not bad but not great, was using Shell Rotella T in my previous heaps which was less but Brad Penn in the 930 - friggin 13qts @ a time - was more... so a wash really).

oh, @ 18-22k/yr here no less... awesome

my dist said they do sell barrels 8-/

maybe I'll just moor a vessle next to the garage and pump it direct?

What miles interval is suggested on the M275... under er um enthusiast use?

Book prolly seyz 10k.

I used to do 5k in my Audi's, but wonder if 7.5k here is acceptable?

Bueller?

MB-Dude

Mobile 1 comes in 5-quart jugs. Two jugs is good for me, per oil change. Which is nice 'cause I use the empty jugs to transport the used oil to the recycle facility. Knowing this generates a lot of 'warm' discussion, I change my oil at 5K intervals. Mobil 1 synthetic will last twice that length of time. But with MB Engine Engineers obligatory watching of Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, there seems to be a trend of ever-shrinking oil filter size. I worry that today's dinky filters may catch stuff when an engine is new, but as the slimy, sludgy beast ages, that lil’ filter clogs sooner.

Cheers,
Jeff

babyman1737

I have never been able to find 0w-40 in the 5qt jugs anywhere. Walmart here used to carry them, not anymore. Per qt at Walmart is $6.40 I think? A million little bottles it is.

Mercedes recommends oil change every 12k miles I believe?

Lately I've seen Mobil1 Synthetic commercial boasting 15k mile intervals, but I'll stick with what Mercedes recommends, which is why I also stick with Mobil1.

Glyn M Ruck

Any oil that holds Benz 229.5 & NOT 229.51 approval is perfect for your car.

Here is the latest dump.

PRODUCTNAME 0W-30 0W-40 5W-30 5W-40 PRINCIPAL
8100 X-cess MOTUL SAE 5W40 x Motul , AUBERVILLIERS CEDEX/FRANCE
ADDINOL SUPER POWER MV 0537 x Addinol Lube Oil GmbH, Leuna/Deutschland
AeroShell Oil Diesel Ultra x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Agip SYNTHETIC PC SAE 5W-40 x ENI S.p.A. - Refining & Marketing Division, ROM/ITALY
ALPINE Longlife SAE 5W-30 x Mitan Mineralöl GmbH, Ankum/Deutschland
Alpine RS 0W40 x Mitan Mineralöl GmbH, Ankum/Deutschland
ARAL HIGH TRONIC M SAE 5W-40 x Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
ARAL HighTronic M SAE 5W-30 x Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
ARAL SUPER TRONIC G x Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
ARAL SuperSynth x Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
ASTRIS MAGIS SAE 5W-40 x Astris S.A., 6745 GIORNICO/Schweiz
AVIASYNTH 5W-40 x Avia Mineralöl-AG, München/Deutschland
Biloxxi 5W-30 x MCC Trading Deutschland GmbH, Düsseldorf/Deutschland
bp superV Plus 5W-40 x BP p.l.c., LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
bp Visco 5000 5W-30 x BP p.l.c., LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE 0W-30 A3/B4 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Edge 0W-40 A3/B4 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE 5W-30 A3/B4 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE Professional A3 0W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE Professional A3 0W-40 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Edge Professional A3 5W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE PROFESSIONAL A3 5W-40 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE Professional Diesel 5W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE TITANIUM 5W-40 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Edge with SPT SAE 0W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Magnatec Professional A3 5W-40 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol SLX Professional Longtec 0W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
CEPSA star 5W40 SYNTHETIC x Cepsa Lubricantes, S.A., MADRID/SPAIN
Cepsa Star Mega Synthetic 0W-30 x Cepsa Lubricantes, S.A., MADRID/SPAIN
Chevron Supreme Synthetic Motor Oil x Chevron Global Lubricants, GENT/ZWIJNAARDE/BELGIUM
Consol Ultra x Vial Oil Ltd., FRYAZINO, Moscow region/RUSSIA
Divinol syntholight MBX SAE 5W-30 x Zeller+Gmelin GmbH & Co. KG, Eislingen/Deutschland
elf EXCELLIUM 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Elf Excellium Full Tech 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Elf Excellium Full-Tech 5W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Elf Excellium Full-Tech 5W-40 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Engen Xtreme Syn 5W-40 x Engen Petroleum Ltd., JOHANNESBURG 2000/REPUBLIC of SOUTHAFRICA
Everyday Full Synthetic 5W-40 x Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd, WANTIRNA SOUTH/AUSTRALIA
EVOLUTION OEM Series I 5W-30 x TOP 1 Oil Products, San Mateo, CA/USA
EVOLUTION OEM Series I 5W-40 x TOP 1 Oil Products, San Mateo, CA/USA
Fastroil Premium Plus SAE 5W-40 x HILL Corporation, Shymkent/KAZAKHSTAN
Fina FIRST 600 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE 5W-40 x Fuchs Petrolub AG, Mannheim/Deutschland
Fuchs TITAN Supersyn Longlife SAE 5W-30 x Fuchs Petrolub AG, Mannheim/Deutschland
G-Energy F Synth 5W-30 x Gazpromneft-Lubricants LTD, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
G-Energy F Synth 5W-40 x Gazpromneft-Lubricants LTD, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
G-Energy Service Line MS 5W-30 x Gazpromneft-Lubricants LTD, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
GALP Active 3000 M 5W40 x Petrogal S.A., LISSABON/PORTUGAL
GALP FÓRMULA XLD SAE 5W-40 x Petrogal S.A., LISSABON/PORTUGAL
Gulf Formula GMX x Gulf Oil International, London/ENGLAND
Gulf Formula GX x x Gulf Oil International, London/ENGLAND
Havoline Ultra BM x Chevron Global Lubricants, GENT/ZWIJNAARDE/BELGIUM
LIQUI MOLY 5W-40 LEICHTLAUF HIGH TECH x Liqui Moly GmbH, Ulm/Deutschland
LOTOS SYNTHETIC PLUS SAE 5W40 x Grupa Lotos SA., GDANSK/POLAND
LOTOS SYNTHETIC TURBODIESEL PLUS 5W40 x Grupa Lotos SA., GDANSK/POLAND
LubriGold Full Synthetic 5W-40 x Warren Oil Company, Inc., WEST MEMPHIS, AR 72303-2048/USA
LUKOIL GENESIS 5W-40 x OOO LLK-International, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
LUKOIL LUXE MC x OOO LLK-International, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
LUKOIL LUXE Synthetic x OOO LLK-International, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
master oil v-tec Premium 0W-40 x Interparts Autoteile GmbH, Stuttgart/Deutschland
MB 229.5 Motorenöl A 000 989 83 01 x Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
megol Motorenoel High Condition x Meguin GmbH & Co. KG Mineraloelwerke, Saarlouis/Deutschland
Mercedes-Benz PKW-Synthetic Motorenöl Blatt 229.5 x Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
Midland Synqron x Oel-Brack AG, HUNZENSCHWIL/Schweiz
Mitan Alpine RS 0W-40 x Mitan Mineralöl GmbH, Ankum/Deutschland
Mobil 1 0W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil 1 Arctic 0W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil 1 Formula M 5W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil 1 New Life 0W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel 0W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil SHC Formula MB 5W-30 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil Super 3000 Formula M 5W-30 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Motul 8100 X-max 5W-30 x Motul , AUBERVILLIERS CEDEX/FRANCE
Motul 8100 X-max 5W-40 x Motul , AUBERVILLIERS CEDEX/FRANCE
Motul Synergie Tech+ 5W40 x Motul , AUBERVILLIERS CEDEX/FRANCE
OMV BIXXOL special BM SAE 5W-40 x OMV Refining & Marketing GmbH, VIENNA/Österreich
Pennzoil Platinum European Formula x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 Full Synthetic x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
PENRITE HPR 5 5W-40 x Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd, WANTIRNA SOUTH/AUSTRALIA
Pento High Performance 5W-30 x Deutsche Pentosin-Werke GmbH, Wedel/Deutschland
Premium Synthetik Motorenöl x Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
Q European Engine Ultra x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
Q Horsepower Full Synthetic x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
Quaker State Synquest x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
RAVENOL HCL x Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH, Werther/Deutschland
real,- Quality GSR 5W-30 x real,- Handels GmbH, Düsseldorf/Deutschland
REPSOL ELITE Common Rail 5W30 x Repsol YPF Lubricantes y Especialidades, S.A., MOSTOLES - MADRID/SPAIN
ROWE SYNT RS SAE 5W-30 HC-D x ROWE Mineralölwerk GmbH, Bubenheim/Deutschland
ROWE SYNT RS SAE 5W-40 HC-D x ROWE Mineralölwerk GmbH, Bubenheim/Deutschland
Shell Helix Diesel Ultra x x x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Diesel Ultra E x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix HX8 x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix HX8 C x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra x x x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra AB x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra C x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra E x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra Extra Polar x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
smart Motoröl 5W-30 x Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
SRS ViVA 1 Longlife x SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH, Salzbergen/Deutschland
Statoil LazerWay 5W-40 x Svenska Statoil AB, STOCKHOLM/SWEDEN
Statoil LazerWay TDI 5W-40 x Svenska Statoil AB, STOCKHOLM/SWEDEN
SynPower HST x The Valvoline Company, LEXINGTON, KY/USA
SYNTIUM 3000 x PETRONAS LUBRICANTS INTERNATIONAL, KUALA LAMPUR/MALAYSIA
TAMOIL SINT FUTURE RACING x Tamoil Italia S.p.A., MILANO/ITALY
TECAR Special M Motorenöl 5W-30 x Techno - Einkauf GmbH, Norderstedt/Deutschland
Texaco Havoline Synthetic Motor Oil x Chevron Global Lubricants, GENT/ZWIJNAARDE/BELGIUM
TNK Magnum Ultratec x TNK Lubricants, LLC, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
Total Activa Energy 9000 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5W-40 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Total Quartz Energy 9000 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Valvoline SynPower 5W-40 x The Valvoline Company, LEXINGTON, KY/USA
Valvoline SynPower HST x The Valvoline Company, LEXINGTON, KY/USA
Westfalen Gigatron 0W-40 x Westfalen AG, Münster/Deutschland
YACCO VX 1600 0W30 x Yacco SAS, ST PIERRE LES ELBEUF/FRANCE
ZIC XQ 5W-30 x SK Lubricants, DAEJEON/Rep. of KOREA
ZIC XQ 5W40 x SK Lubricants Co., Ltd., Deajeon/Rep. of KOREA

xlr8tin

THat's what I use on my E
Good point...how much does an S600 take?

Pretty much sums it up

Glyn M Ruck

Yes - It's probably the most available in the US & a fine product.

haoz129

Just filled my S600 with Mobil 1 Synthetic (European Car Formula).
Drained 8L out and poured 8.5L in, level checked perfect.
Manual indicated V12 holds 9L in total.

Thanks.

Howard

xlr8tin

True for those of us in US...I'll trade you that view though

Correct on the European formula...so you say litres, and I've read about 9qts..can anyone confirm that?

Sgt. Schultz

confirmed - 9qts

not having a dipstick blows

stupid e-reader one day tells me add 2qts, one day 1qt, one day perfect

car has to be dead level, and, oil should be measured cold

anyone have the dipstick part # - I think I'd read here one is available for the M275 yes?

so still no suggested sources where to find M1 0w40 in gallon jugs? (mmmm, jugs)...

trombone

I recently found big jug Mobil 1 0w -40 at Advanced Auto Parts, $36 +tax. The one quart at major stores for $6 + pennies is a better deal, less convenient. Walmart carries big jugs for $26+ except the 0-40. Bummer.

xlr8tin

Well as long as I know how much it's supposed to take I don't need a dipstick. My E takes 8, and once I put that much in I close the hood.

But starting off not knowing and without a dipstick...I'd be freaking out

tusabes

The Valvoline Synpower 5w-40 is often cheaper and has rebates

Plus Valvoline offers a 300,000 mile engine guarantee if you stick with them and first installation is before 125,000 miles.

marktan

Paul,
No need for the dipstick...if you go to the "hidden" menu that allows you to put it into dyno mode (odometer mileage showing, key to position1 - I think, press reset a couple times...it will beep, and the battery voltage will show...scroll up and you'll get to a screen with all the VIN and software versions.) then turn key to position 2 and the oil level will display in a couple seconds to the closest tenth of a quart. If you start the engine and drive it will even give you realtime oil level in the pan.

MB-Dude

Holy Technical Display, Batman... Marktan is correct. Key to position 1, display to odometer garbage, hit the Reset button three times in quick succession and 'bingo', you get to the secret decoder ring menu. Not sure yet what all the gobbledygook is/means yet, but it'll be fun to figure out! Thanks Marktan! Word of warning though, on my car the engine oil level was 5.4 quarts. I know it's full since I have a dip stick abscounded from a wrecking yard.
Cheers,
Jeff

marktan

Thanks for the kudos...Not meaning to doubt your dipstick, but the quantity displayed on all of my cars ('05 S600, '04 E500, '02 C32) are/were dead-on accurate. Coincidentally, on my way home today, my S600 just flashed the "Add 1.0 Qt". Just measured it after letting her rest for 30 minutes in the garage, and it's reading 5.9quarts. She's happy at 8.0-8.5 quarts, but displays "remove 0.5qt" if she's overfilled to 9.0qt.

(You mentioned the "gobbldygook"...I'm assuming you know about the "Dyno mode"? All the other numbers from the screen the oil level is on are the VIN, Engine model, and software versions)

haoz129

Thanks, Marktan and Jeff.

That's so cool, .
My S600 oil level reading is 9.0L. Seems wasted money on the oil dipstick.
Wife said double check is always needed.

Best regards.

Howard

slopoke

On mine 00' s5000, of you hit th page button till odometer, then hit the up Arrow (I think twice) it say oil level there. Although I have yet to get it to read. It always says cannt measure oil now. But I don't have to hit he reset button to get there?

haoz129

Yes, Slopoke.

There is a oil level display as you said which is for majority user to use. It is indicated in the user manual as well. This screen only tells you a brief oil level such as ok, need 1 liter...
But what Marktan said is a special screen for technician and it is not mentioned in the user manual. This screen tells your more acurate oil level reading like as 8.9L...

BTW, your S5000 should be a super long version, heard somewhere there was S1000 before, but nothing compare with yours,

Have a nice day, my friend.

Howard

Sgt. Schultz

Wow, thanks Mark! That's really cool.

Tho, your comment about it reading 5.9qts but only saying to add 1qt has me again wanting a dipstick! WTF's up w/ that? That's a huge disparity IMO. Did it need to sit longer after shutdown for the oil to dribble back into the sump more? One qt's worth.

Again, odd.

Thanks tho for the secret handshake - should be a post somewhere that sums up all of 'those'!!!

I'd run out and test mine now, but car's @ John Nouri's for some Broadway Performance lovin 8-)... *** rental car 8-/...(Fidelity pays rental muwhahaaa)...

slopoke

Only one was made and I have it. It also take 900 quarts of oil. Crazy.