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Acceleration Issues 03' S600
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Acceleration Issues 03' S600
When I step on the accelerator the engine flutters violently. This only happens when I really "step on it". Just recently replaced the spark plugs because of this issue. If anyone else has experience this please share. Thanks 
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Yes, this car is complex. There is too much room for people to guess. You may spent a fortune replacing but without getting to the point.
Error code will direct you very close to the issue. Then members here could suggest you how to fix it, or is your repair proposal right.
Unfortunately regular OBDII reader won't help much, if it's free, better than nothing. You'd better have it hooked to MB STAR and get a code list or report.
Such a report will help you to address this issue and also as a health check. If you haven't hooked it up for a long time, better do it. Don't neglect an elegant car.
Thanks.
Howard
Error code will direct you very close to the issue. Then members here could suggest you how to fix it, or is your repair proposal right.
Unfortunately regular OBDII reader won't help much, if it's free, better than nothing. You'd better have it hooked to MB STAR and get a code list or report.
Such a report will help you to address this issue and also as a health check. If you haven't hooked it up for a long time, better do it. Don't neglect an elegant car.
Thanks.
Howard
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If its as bad a flutter/shake as it sounds, I'm surprised it didn't throw the CEL light on...maybe the light is burnt out? 
take it to an autozone or place than plug an obdii reader in. Perhaps there is something "pending".
take it to an autozone or place than plug an obdii reader in. Perhaps there is something "pending".
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When you turn the key on without starting the car the CEL should come on; in Canada it's an engine symbol.
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Ok Gents,
I posted this weekend that I was having acceleration issues... well after taking my beast to the shop I was told that it was the drum assembly in the transmission that was falling apart. My car has 108,000 miles is this normal wear? Also, I was quoted 6g's for repair can anyone give me advice on a cheaper option? Any help would be appreciated.
I posted this weekend that I was having acceleration issues... well after taking my beast to the shop I was told that it was the drum assembly in the transmission that was falling apart. My car has 108,000 miles is this normal wear? Also, I was quoted 6g's for repair can anyone give me advice on a cheaper option? Any help would be appreciated.
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Ok Gents,
I posted this weekend that I was having acceleration issues... well after taking my beast to the shop I was told that it was the drum assembly in the transmission that was falling apart. My car has 108,000 miles is this normal wear? Also, I was quoted 6g's for repair can anyone give me advice on a cheaper option? Any help would be appreciated.
I posted this weekend that I was having acceleration issues... well after taking my beast to the shop I was told that it was the drum assembly in the transmission that was falling apart. My car has 108,000 miles is this normal wear? Also, I was quoted 6g's for repair can anyone give me advice on a cheaper option? Any help would be appreciated.
I don't know there is a drum in this trany. Is it the torque converter ? I'd suggest:
- Still insist, for this case, go to dealer, read codes, seek for 2nd opinion;
- If the trany was done, try to find a used one, that will be much cheaper; George, one of the forum member, managed to get a used 722.6 for few hunderd bucks. S600 trany is a bit different though;
- Or, talk to a good trany shop for their idea.
Good luck.
Howard
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It is not normal for 722.6, if as your shop said. This trany is pretty bullet proof if maintained. Never heard transmssion itself has issue in S600 other than the electric parts.
I don't know there is a drum in this trany. Is it the torque converter ? I'd suggest:
- Still insist, for this case, go to dealer, read codes, seek for 2nd opinion;
- If the trany was done, try to find a used one, that will be much cheaper; George, one of the forum member, managed to get a used 722.6 for few hunderd bucks. S600 trany is a bit different though;
- Or, talk to a good trany shop for their idea.
Good luck.
Howard
I don't know there is a drum in this trany. Is it the torque converter ? I'd suggest:
- Still insist, for this case, go to dealer, read codes, seek for 2nd opinion;
- If the trany was done, try to find a used one, that will be much cheaper; George, one of the forum member, managed to get a used 722.6 for few hunderd bucks. S600 trany is a bit different though;
- Or, talk to a good trany shop for their idea.
Good luck.
Howard
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Thanks for the insight Mark & Howard, I live in a small town outside of Tucson AZ. (hence the ridiculous pricing) I will be taking her in for a second opinion this weekend so I will keep you guys posted.
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IDK. My tranny for my GMC pickup was $3500 to rebuild. $6k does not SOUND that far out of line. If you can find it cheaper then go for it. I think Howard's idea of a used one has some merit. Like has already been said, the tranny is pretty beefy. Hard to damage it unless it was not maintained well. You either got one that was not up to snuff off of the assembly line or was not kept up. You should be GTG with a used one. I would go for it.
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Howard, did George do a write up for his tranny work? If not can you get me in touch with him? Trying to collect as much info as I can before I make any moves. Thanks
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So wait for him to chime in or pm him.
Howard
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Ok Gentlemen it looks like I am officially part of the"V12PACKCLUB" (not by choice) Well it seems that the "European Auto Specialist" that I took my girl to... wasn't much of a specialist. After a second and third opinion my acceleration issue has turned out to be a coilpack not the tranny as previously diagnosed. Now I am on the hunt for the best bang for the buck on a set of coil packs. I'm trying to find out who got the best deal when they replaced their coils..... (and not you Howard, I hear that you made your own in your garage with a paper clip and some twine, lol) So please chime in with your best prices on these puppies.
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Ok Gentlemen it looks like I am officially part of the"V12PACKCLUB" (not by choice) Well it seems that the "European Auto Specialist" that I took my girl to... wasn't much of a specialist. After a second and third opinion my acceleration issue has turned out to be a coilpack not the tranny as previously diagnosed. Now I am on the hunt for the best bang for the buck on a set of coil packs. I'm trying to find out who got the best deal when they replaced their coils..... (and not you Howard, I hear that you made your own in your garage with a paper clip and some twine, lol) So please chime in with your best prices on these puppies.
Last edited by marktan; Apr 2, 2013 at 08:11 PM.
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Not sure about AIRTEX. Standard Motors, I think, is the OE supplier. Not to say they don't have a number of them. There was one palce down in Florida that claimed to rebuild and distribute them that I have heard to avoid at all costs. I don't recall the name though, nor do I have any direct experience with them. I think as long as you have a good warranty/return policy on it, you should be good. If you do a search, I believe there is a thread with photos that details the coilpack replacement step-by-step.
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Try to stick with OE/OEM. If you don't know the supplier, don't risk.
This part need lots of efforts to put in, you really don't want to do it twice.
