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Old 07-05-2018, 01:45 AM
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2000 S500, W220 Crankshafposition sensor doesn't seem to be problem?

I was on my way home one evening and I noticed the ES (Engine service) light on my dash was on, I noticed a slight miss in the engine. the car died about a minute later. Had it towed home. looking I found fuse 49 had blown, I replaced this fuse (while the car was cool) it started back up and ran until it heated up then died. I got it to start again and it started ran a sec. then died with ES light on. Read about the crankshaft position sensor and it very much sounded that way so I ordered one off Amazon (Part No. 0 261 210 170 made by Bosh) I changed the sensor and the battery was not connected. Car starts, ES light is off, is running then in a couple of minutes it dies. I let it cool and it started again, ES light is on now, it runs for a short while and dies, now starts and immediately dies. Do I need to reset something or what? Where should I start and what should I test and how? I have an auto ranging multimeter (Southwire 10040N). Where should I start? Please give me some direction?
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Lowest starting point would be to buy a cheap OBD-II code reader. It won't tell you much, but it should give you the standard OBD-II trouble codes.
If you plan to drive a Mercedes Benz vehicle for some time, and you plan to do your own repairs and maintenance (the only way most of us can afford the cars), the best approach is to buy a Chinese clone of the Mercedes SDS (Service Diagnostic System). This is a multiplex unit to connect to the car's computers, the SDS software, and a suitable laptop, usually a Dell D-630 or D-830. You can find the multiplexer, cables and software on-line for less than $250, buy a Dell and the parts to max it out off eBay for less than $100, and be ready to go. It is a complex, hard to learn system, but nothing else comes close to doing the job. There are dozens of threads here and on BenzWorld on the SDS.

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I've purchased a Bosch brand Crank Position Sensor brand new from Advance Auto Parts that was bad. I had them swap it out for a different one and it worked perfectly.

As far as testing, I had a known good sensor from my wife's car and put it in mine. Worked like a charm.

New pars don't always guarantee they're going to work properly.
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When the check engine light is on you need to read that code using an obd scanner plugged under the dash

cheap scanners are $25 on Amazon . Get the code and report back , without the code we cannot guess what it might be
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Question Which OBD?

Which one should I get? What is the best coder reader/ clearer to buy and Can you just give me a breakdown on what it will or will not do and price? Also does the car have to be running? and, I started the car and there is a miss fire or it will run normal a sec., then sputter then all over until it dies. I have not changed the plugs, could this possibly be my problem? Thank you for any information you can give me.
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Which one should I get? What is the best coder reader/ clearer to buy and Can you just give me a breakdown on what it will or will not do and price? Also does the car have to be running? and, I started the car and there is a miss fire or it will run normal a sec., then sputter then all over until it dies. I have not changed the plugs, could this possibly be my problem? Thank you for any information you can give me.
again until you check and post the codes we canít possibly help you

in terms of the various code scanners ,
there are hundreds of options , a basic $20 scanner will do fine to read obd codes that turn on the check engine light

if you want to move up in sophistication get a icarsoft mbii which is about $150 which can read suspension and airbag and other codes in addition to engine codes


next step up is Xentry clone of Mercedes SDS computer which is about $400 to give factory level diagnostics

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So **** me, I tried to post 4 days ago and. Iposted this4 days...... **** it. it said I didn't have a server? lost 2 hours of typing? I purchased an icarsoft i980., help me on what to pick..... It asks everythWhat s500 do I pick? So anyway, I cleaned the MAF sensor two air filters check Engine light retired ran 5 minutes died.... Check engine light back on... I have these codes....****... had... Oh... ok? P1420, P0446, Po443, And then cylinders?
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Do you expect us to google what those codes mean ? Please list exactly what those codes mean
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Do you expect us to google what those codes mean ? Please list exactly what those codes mean
You know, Im new here and I go out and by an OBDII reader specifically tuned into this Overly Engineered car ( I mean 16 spark plugs for a car that might get 14mpg? What in the hell? Oh,"it's more efficient"......OK., it's a V8? typically a V8 will get a little more mpg with 8 plugs. and push this button two times and it tells you this? WTF)I have gotten messages telling me to get a reader and post the codes, I do and now I get this freaking nonsense from you? Each code tells you something that may be the problem and it probably points to something else. Someone who has delt with this before will know and may respond and have an Idea of what it may be? Doesn't really look that way but it may happen. I have gotten some help but very little. I'm a Newbie, people don't want to f&@k with telling me anything. Oh, and thanks for taking your valuable time to care and respond.
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So...... It has to be something pretty simple. it starts almost everytime I try but after running it starts to miss or hesitate for an instance an dies with a bang or backfire. Come on guys, someone has to have an Idea? and there is so much ***** on this OBDII reader that I may need some assistance there. to be such a nice car why in the hell do they give it a thermometer to stick up your *** and tell you how you feel today?
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Thumbs down Thanks

You know, Im a Newbie. I have to say this community has been so helpful with all of their knowledgeable comments and advice. Thanks for the huge amount of help you have given me....
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A lot of autoparts stores will lend you an OBDII reader to get the codes.
Be nice to them!
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codes seem to point to air pump switchover valve. but you might want to try another crankshaft sensor
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Okay thanks, the most F--ed up thing just happened... I have done nothing but take the air filter housing off of car and I have previously done this. I boosted the car and low and behold it started and ran for atleast 30 min. before I shut it off. Now what in the world could it be? If I had paid retail for it I would be one mad person.
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You boosted the car ? I assume you mean jump start ?

well a car with a bad battery will often die out due to undervoltage ! The alternator is not always powerful enough to keep it from dying out
Get a good new battery in there I bet your problem will be solved
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It was brand new 2 months ago when I bought it. So no that is not the problem.
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So that's all I get is someone thinking that I'm stupid? This is the most conceited a$$hole place I've seen? I haven't been on here for three years.... and no one with a clue answers? From what I've read its a common problem but everyone Who answers says it may be this, it may be that. Well it is something common on a w220 s500.... Put me in a toyota.
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Nice way to help people? Really? Grow the **** up.
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TBH, you don't make it very easy to help you. You posted some of the codes you have, and not much else. Diagnostics is key on these cars to prevent wasting time and money by changing things that aren't bad. Those are all evap codes, which will trigger the light but not cause your stalling. The F49 you found blown, is it still blowing when the car dies? Have you checked fuel pressure when this happens? A weak fuel pump will give very similar symptoms, as will a clogged filter. Quick and easy to rule that out.
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Thank you, No #49 doesn't blow. Check engine light is on, and it starts and runs fine sometimes, other it starts, sputters and dies? I was just signing on to ask about fuel pump or something to do with that. How do I check it? I'm very mechanically minded but these cars are a rare breed....
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Thank you, No #49 doesn't blow. Check engine light is on, and it starts and runs fine sometimes, other it starts, sputters and dies? I was just signing on to ask about fuel pump or something to do with that. How do I check it? I'm very mechanically minded but these cars are a rare breed....
Connect a pressure gauge at the test port on the fuel rail, should be towards the front on top of the engine. You should see ~50psi steady with key or or engine running. Watch it when it stalls, see if it's dropping off. If you are keeping good pressure you can rule out the pump and that side of the fuel system.
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Thank you, I just got the loan a tool thing from Autozone and I will try that and see? does the engine have to be running? Right now she shuts off pretty quick if she starts.....
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No, you should have pressure even with the key on, engine off.
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