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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 01:43 AM
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Does anyone have an idea if I buy an aftermarket key online how much the dealership charges to program it to my car?
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 07:51 AM
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No dealership weil ever "program" an aftermarket (anyway useless) key. The only way is to order a new key from the MB Dealer. Cost vary from country to country, but a ball park number maybe 300$+
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lsaueezey
Does anyone have an idea if I buy an aftermarket key online how much the dealership charges to program it to my car?
European theft prevention laws force vehicle manufacturers to 'sole source' certain 'theft prone' parts such that they cannot be reused in other cars or replacement components purchased by unauthorized parties. This is to dramatically reduce thefts of entire cars and theft of and reuse of stolen or 'recycled' critical (must use to operate the car) components. Mercedes-Benz uses a 4 component system that includes the Electronic Ignition module, the electronic key/keyFOB, the ignition 'switch, and the shift selection mechanism including its electronic modules . These components are 'hard coded ( to each other and the specific car VIN and cannot be 'recoded'. A special, segregated computer system at THE FACTORY generates a unique 'password' for the set of components which cannot be changed--ever. The 'key fob/key each include 'chips' that must match the special 'password' for the constellation of components before cranking, ignition, running, gear selection, and other functions can be performed. IF a component of this 'set' fails or is lost. one either has to replace ALL the set with NEW ordered by a DEALER, or purchase a NEW COMPONENT for THAT VEHICLE from a DEALER who MUST verify the legal ownership of the vehicle, your identity, the vehicle VIN, all visually confirmed by the 'pre authorized individuals' in the Dealership who can authorize the new component purchase. Paper and electronic records must be retained and each Dealership is physically audited for strict compliance seveal (unannounced) times each year. The penalties for non-compliance are substantial and multiple instances will result in Dealership license cancellation.

While a 'locksmith' can 'cut' a mechanically duplicate key from a 'good' one, they cannot RECODE or CODE one. so it is completely useless. A NEW key FOB and metal KEY can only be made and CODED for that unique vehicle at THE FACTORY by that separate Computer System, which performed the original CODING of all the 'theft prone components.' Furthermore, the total number of 'keys' that can be manufactured in limited to ??6?.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebowers47
European theft prevention laws force vehicle manufacturers to 'sole source' certain 'theft prone' parts such that they cannot be reused in other cars or replacement components purchased by unauthorized parties. This is to dramatically reduce thefts of entire cars and theft of and reuse of stolen or 'recycled' critical (must use to operate the car) components. Mercedes-Benz uses a 4 component system that includes the Electronic Ignition module, the electronic key/keyFOB, the ignition 'switch, and the shift selection mechanism including its electronic modules . These components are 'hard coded ( to each other and the specific car VIN and cannot be 'recoded'. A special, segregated computer system at THE FACTORY generates a unique 'password' for the set of components which cannot be changed--ever. The 'key fob/key each include 'chips' that must match the special 'password' for the constellation of components before cranking, ignition, running, gear selection, and other functions can be performed. IF a component of this 'set' fails or is lost. one either has to replace ALL the set with NEW ordered by a DEALER, or purchase a NEW COMPONENT for THAT VEHICLE from a DEALER who MUST verify the legal ownership of the vehicle, your identity, the vehicle VIN, all visually confirmed by the 'pre authorized individuals' in the Dealership who can authorize the new component purchase. Paper and electronic records must be retained and each Dealership is physically audited for strict compliance seveal (unannounced) times each year. The penalties for non-compliance are substantial and multiple instances will result in Dealership license cancellation.

While a 'locksmith' can 'cut' a mechanically duplicate key from a 'good' one, they cannot RECODE or CODE one. so it is completely useless. A NEW key FOB and metal KEY can only be made and CODED for that unique vehicle at THE FACTORY by that separate Computer System, which performed the original CODING of all the 'theft prone components.' Furthermore, the total number of 'keys' that can be manufactured in limited to ??6?.
All that is true. Unfortunately, a well trained thief with a face mask and a gun is as effective as all ownership paperwork in the world. Besides, high level car theft sydicates have access to all MB tools and "special segregated computers" they need and then some. The final result is that cars are still being stolen by the boatload (literally), but you and I cannot get a spare key done.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 09:46 AM
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By these guys you may get a key for money. But soon enough you may not need the key anymore, as the car is gone
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 10:10 AM
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You don´t understand what I mean. What I mean is that life is made miserable for you when you need one of those "anti-theft" spares, whereas the thieves can get your car whenever they want. You want me to accept all those "anti theft" measures? easey, give me a lifetime full value free theft coverage. If they don´t do that is because they don´t trust their safety systems. Only work to deter petty thieves and to **** off owners.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 10:42 AM
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I understood what you meant. My comment was meant sarcasticly.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lsaueezey
Does anyone have an idea if I buy an aftermarket key online how much the dealership charges to program it to my car?
If you can't afford or don''t have a second key, you shouldn't be driving an MB (it rhymes!)

Whenever I go on a trip with any of my MBs, I always give to my wife the second key to guard.
There is nowhere in North America where you will get a new key from a dealership in less than 4 days.

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Originally Posted by kraut56
There is nowhere in North America where you will get a new key from a dealership in less than 4 days.
That is true!! First thing I did when I bought my Mercedes was to order a spare key since mine came only with one. I just didn't want to get stranded somewhere without it and have to wait. Unfortunately they are not cheap either
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 11:54 AM
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Yes, getting a new (functioning) mechanical key or key FOB is both costly and annoying and slow (several days) --because the new key/FOB must be 'coded' by the special/segregated Computer System that made the original one---in Germany at the factory. While a 'locksmith' can 'cut' a new mechanical key--it is useless and can not do anything other than open the trunk lock (if it has not been electronically locked). Dealers are required (by MBZ) and in Europe to keep detailed records for EVERYKEY /keyFOB they order (and are subjected to unannounced audits at least once per year.) Of course, the 'professional' thieves have 'picked the lock' so to speak and can still take a car, but it is no longer a trivial exercise--even for them. IF the car is equipped with electronic communication, the car can be 'bricked' rendered non-working' by the manufacturer.
One day soon every car purchaser and authorized driver will have to have an identity chip implanted (similar to pet ID chips) synchronized to the car making it inoperable to all others. [could the ID Chip be capable of 'bricking' the person?]
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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 10:57 AM
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It takes about 3-4 days (they have to be ordered from TX USA), then programmed to your car.
$375ish is the price multiple dealers in NJ have quoted me.
Plus you will get the 'new' chrome key...
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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 10:37 PM
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I paid $650 for a new key last year. It took 2 weeks for me to get the key and the keyless go doesn't work. I call BS on not being able to reprogramming old keys and stuff. I some how deleted the Vin in my eis. If you can delete it the you can write it. You just need the right tools and lots of know how to get it done. Trying to figure it out right now lol
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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 11:37 PM
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Yes it can be done but you need special software to virginze and reprogram I think even star das can’t do it
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 03:49 AM
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I used a cdgi key programmer and was able to program a key to start my w220 s600 but I couldn't figure out how to get the buttons to work. I just bought the xhorse watch which is supposed to work with keyless go. Hopefully I'll be able to figure out how to program it with the xhorse mini programming tool. It'd be awesome having a keyless go watch, especially since the keyless go on my key stopped working. Idk what's wrong with it nut the lock button now unlocks the car. I have to roll down my window, lock the doors, shut down the car, pull out the key, and then close the window from the outside. Needless to say its a pain in the ***
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 09:20 PM
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The Xhorse Watch is not Mercedes compatible. If you want to do Mercedes keys the best 'inexpensive' system is the Xhorse VVDI MB. It won't do everything and you will need other tools, but it is a good start.
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Man sucks that the xhorse watch doesn't work with mercedes. It's advertised to work with keyless go so I assumed it would work with mercedes. I did some research today and it seems only the vvdi plus works for mercedes. I don't know if I want to spend $1500 for a hobby. I'll probably fail to figure out how to program these keys and it'll end up sitting in the corner somewhere in my room
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