Is there going to be an S450?
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Is there going to be an S450?
Hello all!
I am new to this board (well, kind of) and on behalf of my father (who is a looooong time MB buyer) I was wondering if someone could settle a bet I have with him.
He went to his MB dealership this week to place an order and his salesguy asked him if he wanted an S450 or an S500. I don't understand why there is no mention of this midline engine ANYWHERE...not on DaimlerChrysler's site, not on MBUSA, not on GermanCarFans.com, etc.
I told the salesman he was off his gourd, but he then said that the person in charge of allocations for the dealership specifically indicated that the dealership will be receiving X amount of S450s along with S500s. I have not seen this supposed allocation sheet.
Is this true, or is the dealership just peddling B.S.? Thanks for your input.
I am new to this board (well, kind of) and on behalf of my father (who is a looooong time MB buyer) I was wondering if someone could settle a bet I have with him.
He went to his MB dealership this week to place an order and his salesguy asked him if he wanted an S450 or an S500. I don't understand why there is no mention of this midline engine ANYWHERE...not on DaimlerChrysler's site, not on MBUSA, not on GermanCarFans.com, etc.
I told the salesman he was off his gourd, but he then said that the person in charge of allocations for the dealership specifically indicated that the dealership will be receiving X amount of S450s along with S500s. I have not seen this supposed allocation sheet.
Is this true, or is the dealership just peddling B.S.? Thanks for your input.
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Originally Posted by RichReg
Hello all!
I am new to this board (well, kind of) and on behalf of my father (who is a looooong time MB buyer) I was wondering if someone could settle a bet I have with him.
He went to his MB dealership this week to place an order and his salesguy asked him if he wanted an S450 or an S500. I don't understand why there is no mention of this midline engine ANYWHERE...not on DaimlerChrysler's site, not on MBUSA, not on GermanCarFans.com, etc.
I told the salesman he was off his gourd, but he then said that the person in charge of allocations for the dealership specifically indicated that the dealership will be receiving X amount of S450s along with S500s. I have not seen this supposed allocation sheet.
Is this true, or is the dealership just peddling B.S.? Thanks for your input.
I am new to this board (well, kind of) and on behalf of my father (who is a looooong time MB buyer) I was wondering if someone could settle a bet I have with him.
He went to his MB dealership this week to place an order and his salesguy asked him if he wanted an S450 or an S500. I don't understand why there is no mention of this midline engine ANYWHERE...not on DaimlerChrysler's site, not on MBUSA, not on GermanCarFans.com, etc.
I told the salesman he was off his gourd, but he then said that the person in charge of allocations for the dealership specifically indicated that the dealership will be receiving X amount of S450s along with S500s. I have not seen this supposed allocation sheet.
Is this true, or is the dealership just peddling B.S.? Thanks for your input.
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Originally Posted by MB Fanatic
There are only S350 (3.5 litre V6 used in the E, SLK, ML, C)......
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Dvinn; I live in Central New Jersey, USA. The S450 model that the salesman was speaking of was not a diesel, as far as I know. He seemed to allude to the fact that this model would be a replacement for the existing S430 gasoline engined model. I didn't think MB even made diesel engines with that high of a displacement.
amdeutsch: That's interesting. I knew that back in 2002 or 2003, the S350 was introduced in Europe with the old 3.5 l engine, but I didn't know that when they brought it here to the U.S. that it wouldn't have the new 3.5 (as does the new E350).
Anyways, I am still very puzzled about this. MB does have the Japanese competition to worry about & my understanding is that the S350 is not coming to the U.S. initially, so what gives? They do sell a LOT of S430s around here....
amdeutsch: That's interesting. I knew that back in 2002 or 2003, the S350 was introduced in Europe with the old 3.5 l engine, but I didn't know that when they brought it here to the U.S. that it wouldn't have the new 3.5 (as does the new E350).
Anyways, I am still very puzzled about this. MB does have the Japanese competition to worry about & my understanding is that the S350 is not coming to the U.S. initially, so what gives? They do sell a LOT of S430s around here....
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Originally Posted by MB Fanatic
There are only S350 (3.5 litre V6 used in the E, SLK, ML, C), S500 (5.5 litre V8 with 388hp), and S600 (Twin-Turbo V12).
haha thats comedy
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Originally Posted by amdeutsch
Incorrect. The 3.5 in the S is the old 3.7 as used in the old M.
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I read early on there was going to be a W221 with a 4.7 V-8 developing 325 HP for the US market. Have not seen anything for a long time.
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My dealer advised that loss of a 400 whatever model on the new S was one of the casualties of the model elimination/consolidation presently being undertaken by the new management. Even the 350 in the new S remains in doubt at least for the US. A diesel version of the S for the US would, however, loom as an interesting possibility if gas prices keep climbing.
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I think taking away the S350 from the US market will hurt sales greatly. I am tempted to say that a good percentage of current S sales are for the S430 so taking away a lower model will hurt MBUSA and DCX in the long run.
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Is there going to be an S450?
Once again, I am throwing this question out there. I have called a few dealers in the past two weeks and I still get half-assed answers.
Does anyone happen to have any updates on this possibility?
Does anyone happen to have any updates on this possibility?
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Maybe
Somewhere I read that a S400 (450?) might show up in the US at the end of 2006. As likely though is that we will see a hybrid S as announced at the recent Frankfurt Auto Show. With gas prices where they are currently there has to be a lot of pressure to push the hybrid concept into production.
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MB Dealers Get the Lowdown on October 17th
Many MB dealers will be in NYC on 10/17 for the US introduction of the W/V221. US model, engine, and option information should be much more available very soon.
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Originally Posted by MBZFAN55
Many MB dealers will be in NYC on 10/17 for the US introduction of the W/V221. US model, engine, and option information should be much more available very soon.
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W221 Engines:
3.5 Liter V6 4-Valves per cylinder (S350)
5.5 Liter V8 4-Valves per cylinder (S500)
6.0 Liter V12 3-Valves per cylinder (S600)
6.3 Liter V8 4-Valves per cylinder (S63)
3.5 Liter V6 4-Valves per cylinder (S350)
5.5 Liter V8 4-Valves per cylinder (S500)
6.0 Liter V12 3-Valves per cylinder (S600)
6.3 Liter V8 4-Valves per cylinder (S63)
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From thecarconnection.com
U.S.-bound S-Class choices will be limited to the S450, S500, and S600. The S450 and S500 offer newly reworked V-8s; the S450 will have a 4.6-liter V-8, making 335 hp and 339 lb-ft of torque, while the S500 will have a 5.5-liter V-8 good for 382 hp and 391 lb-ft of torque. Both are paired with a new seven-speed automatic transmission. The S600 remains the most exclusive and powerful S-Class model, with a 5.5-liter bi-turbo V-12 underhood now making 510 hp and 612 lb-ft.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...183.A9403.html
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...183.A9403.html
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
U.S.-bound S-Class choices will be limited to the S450, S500, and S600. The S450 and S500 offer newly reworked V-8s; the S450 will have a 4.6-liter V-8, making 335 hp and 339 lb-ft of torque, while the S500 will have a 5.5-liter V-8 good for 382 hp and 391 lb-ft of torque. Both are paired with a new seven-speed automatic transmission.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...183.A9403.html
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...183.A9403.html
I guess 'cause Europe doesn't get that engine?
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There Will be an S 450
A direct quote from an article on THE CAR CONNECTION website dated today.
U.S.-bound S-Class choices will be limited to the S450, S500, and S600. The S450 and S500 offer newly reworked V-8s; the S450 will have a 4.6-liter V-8, making 335 hp and 339 lb-ft of torque, while the S500 will have a 5.5-liter V-8 good for 382 hp and 391 lb-ft of torque. Both are paired with a new seven-speed automatic transmission. The S600 remains the most exclusive and powerful S-Class model, with a 5.5-liter bi-turbo V-12 underhood now making 510 hp and 612 lb-ft.
The entire article is at:
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...183.A9403.html
U.S.-bound S-Class choices will be limited to the S450, S500, and S600. The S450 and S500 offer newly reworked V-8s; the S450 will have a 4.6-liter V-8, making 335 hp and 339 lb-ft of torque, while the S500 will have a 5.5-liter V-8 good for 382 hp and 391 lb-ft of torque. Both are paired with a new seven-speed automatic transmission. The S600 remains the most exclusive and powerful S-Class model, with a 5.5-liter bi-turbo V-12 underhood now making 510 hp and 612 lb-ft.
The entire article is at:
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...183.A9403.html
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Originally Posted by RichReg
Hello all!
I am new to this board (well, kind of) and on behalf of my father (who is a looooong time MB buyer) I was wondering if someone could settle a bet I have with him.
He went to his MB dealership this week to place an order and his salesguy asked him if he wanted an S450 or an S500. I don't understand why there is no mention of this midline engine ANYWHERE...not on DaimlerChrysler's site, not on MBUSA, not on GermanCarFans.com, etc.
I told the salesman he was off his gourd, but he then said that the person in charge of allocations for the dealership specifically indicated that the dealership will be receiving X amount of S450s along with S500s. I have not seen this supposed allocation sheet.
Is this true, or is the dealership just peddling B.S.? Thanks for your input.
I am new to this board (well, kind of) and on behalf of my father (who is a looooong time MB buyer) I was wondering if someone could settle a bet I have with him.
He went to his MB dealership this week to place an order and his salesguy asked him if he wanted an S450 or an S500. I don't understand why there is no mention of this midline engine ANYWHERE...not on DaimlerChrysler's site, not on MBUSA, not on GermanCarFans.com, etc.
I told the salesman he was off his gourd, but he then said that the person in charge of allocations for the dealership specifically indicated that the dealership will be receiving X amount of S450s along with S500s. I have not seen this supposed allocation sheet.
Is this true, or is the dealership just peddling B.S.? Thanks for your input.
