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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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clk63 will be ridiculous but none the less, fun car to drive. if amg decides to leave it as is, thats 148 hp more! :v probably low 11's or high 10 1/4 mile times and a z06 killer. m6...ha!
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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okay here's the latest. The V8 in the S class will be naturally aspirated.

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vivaki
okay here's the latest. The V8 in the S class will be naturally aspirated.
What do you hear about the intro of the S450...anything? Dealers have no information and allocations through early May show no S450. Strange also is the fact that the S600 and S450 were to be released in April...the S600 has been announced but nothing about the S450. Could MB be re-thinking and possibly putting a diesel in the car instead of the smaller V8 or will they introduce the SWB again with the diesel?

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MBNorCal
clk63 will be ridiculous but none the less, fun car to drive. if amg decides to leave it as is, thats 148 hp more! :v probably low 11's or high 10 1/4 mile times and a z06 killer. m6...ha!

I dont think it will be low 11s car! I predict high 11 low 12s. And i doubt it will touch Z06.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mmmm
The w220 came out in 99 the AMG version didn't come out till 2000.

That fits with the w221 coming out Jan and the AMG 2008, sell a few s550's to clients who would like an AMG but are desperate for the new model then hit them again for an AMG 12 months later

Dealer said that that there would be no turbo or supercharged AMG model, only the 6.3 nancy asspirated engine 517bhp and only 369lbft ? torque (s55 had 516lbft, s600 590lbft, s65 738lbft) this will be detuned even further for the lower models

Bah humbug
If you really play the 220 scenerio out with the 221 ... 550 now, NA 6.3 in 08', turbo in 09' ... three new releases (and three sales cycles) for one new engine .. they did on the 220 and it may have pissed off the NAS55'ers but there was new interest at each release.

Just a thought.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vivaki
No news yet but MBZFan55 I agree if MB puts the turbo version on the S class then the figure would be something like 570 for s63, 612 for s65 and thats too close no?

Thats why I think when the S class comes with the V8 engine it will be NA and we wont see the turbo charged version till the new SL comes out...
Or .. they can launch the NA 6.3, turn up the output on the TTV12 (670, 700ish?) and release the TT6.3 at close to 600hp to maintain the gap and keep the S65 relevant.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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I believe that it will be worth the wait though.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang
looks like a turbocharged V8.

From the inteview u posted it does seem MB will be going the turbo charged way but for now the S class AMG will be naturally aspirated...
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by vivaki
From the inteview u posted it does seem MB will be going the turbo charged way but for now the S class AMG will be naturally aspirated...
True.

Here's AMG's new lineup for 2006:

NEW MODEL LINES

ML63 AMG

S65 AMG

R63 AMG

NEW ENGINES/UPGRADES

SL 55 AMG (higher output)

CLK 63 AMG

E 63 AMG

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Sounds right to me, Wolfgang -- but I am still not sure about the E63....
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Sounds right to me, Wolfgang -- but I am still not sure about the E63....
Clay, I'd guess the NA E63 will be introduced at the IAA this summer, together with the facelift.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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That's a good guess.

I am sure that they will add it at some point to the line-up -- I am just not so sure when we'll see.....
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The E63 will be at New York in April with the rest of the FL E-Class lineup.

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