130 MPH speed limit on a S600 ??????
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OK guys more debate over the 130 limit on the S600.
I had a very long conversation with the Mercedes service guru manager who says he programs the speed limiter based on the tire rating. He indicated that the limiter is set from the factory at 155 for the S600 if the tires are rated over 155. He says he can change the limiter if the tires allow.
It appears that my car has Y tires which apparantley are rated for 186. So he assures me that my car is limited to 155 and it's an S600 2007
I had a very long conversation with the Mercedes service guru manager who says he programs the speed limiter based on the tire rating. He indicated that the limiter is set from the factory at 155 for the S600 if the tires are rated over 155. He says he can change the limiter if the tires allow.
It appears that my car has Y tires which apparantley are rated for 186. So he assures me that my car is limited to 155 and it's an S600 2007
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Ahh good info ther cmcjo... That would explain it, I know that sometimes in the past the "S" has come with H-Rated tired to improve road noise, soften ride, etc...
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.......this being a Mercedes forum, virtually everyone here owns a mercedes so emphasizing your ownership of mercedes benz cars and BMW's is not going to be considered a big achievement in this crowd.
..........as far as your claim of US bound cars being limited due to the fact that we in the states have poor tires, I think the following post by another member directly contradicts your claim.
Posted by whoever:
I don't think so. It seems to be confirmed by the S550/S600 manual. Page 484 says:
An electronic speed limiter prevents your vehicle from exceeding a speed of 130 mph (210 km/h). The factory equipped tires on your vehicle may have a speed rating above the maximum speed permitted by the electronic speed limiter.
There is no mention in the book of any 155 mph limiter.
..........I perfectly understand that the top speed limit can be different from country to country, but what is absulutely clear now is that most, perhaps not all Mercedes benz cars have been limited to 130mph for a long time, despite 155mph gentlemans agreement. Perhaps yours too. Anyone who's manhood was dependent on the 155mph limiter maybe dissapointed. The task is to find the few that are limited at 155mph. It may just be the AMG cars only.
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..........as far as your claim of US bound cars being limited due to the fact that we in the states have poor tires, I think the following post by another member directly contradicts your claim.
Posted by whoever:
I don't think so. It seems to be confirmed by the S550/S600 manual. Page 484 says:
An electronic speed limiter prevents your vehicle from exceeding a speed of 130 mph (210 km/h). The factory equipped tires on your vehicle may have a speed rating above the maximum speed permitted by the electronic speed limiter.
There is no mention in the book of any 155 mph limiter.
..........I perfectly understand that the top speed limit can be different from country to country, but what is absulutely clear now is that most, perhaps not all Mercedes benz cars have been limited to 130mph for a long time, despite 155mph gentlemans agreement. Perhaps yours too. Anyone who's manhood was dependent on the 155mph limiter maybe dissapointed. The task is to find the few that are limited at 155mph. It may just be the AMG cars only.
Ted
I am not emphasizing car brands, only you want to percieve it that way. I am emphasizing that I was talking based on real world experience, not some kind of BS.
And I have nothing to add after cmcjo's post.
Except: Maybe this datasheet will help you. Look for "Höchstgeschwindigkeit" (=max. speed). (250km/h = 155.376mph).
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...sse_061127.pdf
Regards..
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If defeating the 130 MPH limiter is an issue for anyone, Renntech offers an ECU flash that will elliminate the limiter for about $1700+-. With Z or Y rated tires, speeds beyond 130 MPH can be a reasonably safe reality. I don't advocate that anyone drive that fast on public roads even though I have done it. I am certainly not the moral compass to decide what another man does with his vehicle as long as it is not a threat to others.
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Ok so now I can contradict myself..
I have a great straight and downhill highway in PA and now I decide to pay close attention to the speedometer..and from 80 to 132 in like 4 seconds. To my surprise my 600 shuts down and doesnt go past 133 or so.
So there.. not only did I not go 140 obviously as I said, but the freaking guru top guy service manager who was so positive about the 155 top speed was wrong..
I have a great straight and downhill highway in PA and now I decide to pay close attention to the speedometer..and from 80 to 132 in like 4 seconds. To my surprise my 600 shuts down and doesnt go past 133 or so.
So there.. not only did I not go 140 obviously as I said, but the freaking guru top guy service manager who was so positive about the 155 top speed was wrong..
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Mmm.. With just a few tweaks I can get my old S-Classes to hit 155 mph and still last a long time. I'm happy with the stock 130 mph, though: Redline limited, since I'm in 300SDL/350SD/300SE. So what?
What's the point of this high speed driving? While at first a rush, if you're doing it for hours straight, it gets pretty boring, IMHO.
On top of that, your tires are wearing at an abnormal rate, and the fuel is getting consumed twice as fast as average! Not to mention the danger if you encounter something in your path.
Thrill is not in the speed alone, but compiling various driving skills such as those found in GT racing. I long for the track.
What's the point of this high speed driving? While at first a rush, if you're doing it for hours straight, it gets pretty boring, IMHO.
On top of that, your tires are wearing at an abnormal rate, and the fuel is getting consumed twice as fast as average! Not to mention the danger if you encounter something in your path.
Thrill is not in the speed alone, but compiling various driving skills such as those found in GT racing. I long for the track.
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That is complete BS - I can't believe Benz makes a 500+ HP, $150,000 car and limits the top speed to 130...now you have no choice but to re-flash the ECU which will cost more money. It has to be marketing so people buy the 63/65s.
155mph is the perfect top speed for the U.S., I have done it a few times and the sound the engine makes when the fuel stops spraying is pretty cool. The best place to do this is the Turnpike between exits 14 & 13A but if a trooper clocks your vehicle @155 you will probably be locked up.
155mph is the perfect top speed for the U.S., I have done it a few times and the sound the engine makes when the fuel stops spraying is pretty cool. The best place to do this is the Turnpike between exits 14 & 13A but if a trooper clocks your vehicle @155 you will probably be locked up.
What about Z rated tires? I think that is what my Camaro has (BF Goodrich KD)? I think the limiter on it was 155 or something from the factory but I bumped it to 255 with my PCM programmer. I have only been 146 mph in it and it was pulling hard but that is pretty fast, even on the interstate with no cars. I hit 140 the other day in it.
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I am not emphasizing car brands, only you want to percieve it that way. I am emphasizing that I was talking based on real world experience, not some kind of BS.And I have nothing to add after cmcjo's post.Except: Maybe this datasheet will help you. Look for "Höchstgeschwindigkeit" (=max. speed). (250km/h = 155.376mph).
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...sse_061127.pdf
Regards..
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...sse_061127.pdf
Regards..
From cmcjo:
Ok so now I can contradict myself..
I have a great straight and downhill highway in PA and now I decide to pay close attention to the speedometer..and from 80 to 132 in like 4 seconds. To my surprise my 600 shuts down and doesnt go past 133 or so.
So there.. not only did I not go 140 obviously as I said, but the freaking guru top guy service manager who was so positive about the 155 top speed was wrong..
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I have a great straight and downhill highway in PA and now I decide to pay close attention to the speedometer..and from 80 to 132 in like 4 seconds. To my surprise my 600 shuts down and doesnt go past 133 or so.
So there.. not only did I not go 140 obviously as I said, but the freaking guru top guy service manager who was so positive about the 155 top speed was wrong..
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Maybe some U.S. S-Class owners could tell their ratings of tires... You can see it on the wall of tire. ex: 255/45 R18 Y
K = 110 km/h
L = 120 km/h
M = 130 km/h
N = 140 km/h
P = 150 km/h
Q = 160 km/h
R = 170 km/h
S = 180 km/h
T = 190 km/h
U = 200 km/h
H = 210 km/h
V = 240 km/h
W = 270 km/h
ZR = > 240 km/h
Y = 300 km/h
K = 110 km/h
L = 120 km/h
M = 130 km/h
N = 140 km/h
P = 150 km/h
Q = 160 km/h
R = 170 km/h
S = 180 km/h
T = 190 km/h
U = 200 km/h
H = 210 km/h
V = 240 km/h
W = 270 km/h
ZR = > 240 km/h
Y = 300 km/h
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Maybe some U.S. S-Class owners could tell their ratings of tires... You can see it on the wall of tire. ex: 255/45 R18 Y
K = 110 km/h
L = 120 km/h
M = 130 km/h
N = 140 km/h
P = 150 km/h
Q = 160 km/h
R = 170 km/h
S = 180 km/h
T = 190 km/h
U = 200 km/h
H = 210 km/h
V = 240 km/h
W = 270 km/h
ZR = > 240 km/h
Y = 300 km/h
K = 110 km/h
L = 120 km/h
M = 130 km/h
N = 140 km/h
P = 150 km/h
Q = 160 km/h
R = 170 km/h
S = 180 km/h
T = 190 km/h
U = 200 km/h
H = 210 km/h
V = 240 km/h
W = 270 km/h
ZR = > 240 km/h
Y = 300 km/h
............I think you are confused. No one in the US is unable to tell the speed ratig f their tire. The issue is if the cars are top speed limited to 130mph. They apparently are limited to 130mph as evidenced by Cmcjo's car. f course this does not mea that these cars cannot be later delimited. so posting the speedometer of a car driven at over 130mph is not really sigificant as the car could have been delimited. However, posting the speedometer f a car unable to travel past 130mph is significant because no one ordinarily goes out of their way to limit their car.
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My tires are Y rated for about 186 mph or so.
Maybe some non-US cars are not limited to the 130 like my US car?
Either way man, 130 MPH is freaking fast enough!
Expect a few years in the slammer if your in an accident at that speed.
Maybe some non-US cars are not limited to the 130 like my US car?
Either way man, 130 MPH is freaking fast enough!
Expect a few years in the slammer if your in an accident at that speed.
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I'd like to know where all of you are able to cruise at 130 - 155 mph all day long in sheer bliss? I don't understand the point for ~200 mph speed in the US or even the overcrowded Autobahn (which is becoming more and more stringent on speed limitations as traffic increases).
Besides that:
155 mph sucks down tons of gas and wears tires down to the cords many times faster than cruising at 100 mph or below.
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All by myself with 4 lanes of hwy to play with. It was 37 degrees at around 6am Managed 131.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mdco1A6Wsw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mdco1A6Wsw
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Ok, lol when i got the maxima i really didnt expect it to be that fast , becuase i drove the auto 1 before and it was SLOW , up to 130 i was a bumper in front of e430, i ate e420 for lunch , up to 140 half a fender with 745 btw when i just the car , head to head with 3 different g35's 6 speed 2006 COUPES , and when i was racin an NSX ,it ate me, but i reached a 145.
Btw my maxima recently got stolen and crashed , and my insurance company is trying to blame it all on me ,so when its " hopefully" going to be fixed i might videotape few Runs.
Thanks.
Ok, lol when i got the maxima i really didnt expect it to be that fast , becuase i drove the auto 1 before and it was SLOW , up to 130 i was a bumper in front of e430, i ate e420 for lunch , up to 140 half a fender with 745 btw when i just the car , head to head with 3 different g35's 6 speed 2006 COUPES , and when i was racin an NSX ,it ate me, but i reached a 145.
Btw my maxima recently got stolen and crashed , and my insurance company is trying to blame it all on me ,so when its " hopefully" going to be fixed i might videotape few Runs.
Thanks.
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Hey Guys your welcome to come to Texas to the Texas Mile and find out how fast your car will really go. I have seen a 420 run 143 most 500sran over the 150 mark and the 600 were in 155-160 range feel free to check date http://www.texasmile.net/ 3 Days, 1 Mile no Speed Limit! Next go round is May 27 -29 2011 if you want to run your car get your registration fast its filling up.
I missed this Marchs registration so I was stuck watching.
There is also a company from Houston there that can delimit your car.
I missed this Marchs registration so I was stuck watching.
There is also a company from Houston there that can delimit your car.
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Where do u guys drive 130mph or 140mph? lol i dont think i ever went 100 in my S550. the troopers are everywhere and the fine for speeding is really hefty.
