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Old 04-11-2008, 11:49 AM
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Temperature guage

I noticed that my engine temp. gauge hovers around the 80-100°C range. The top end is 120°C, so I'm a little concerned that it's registering on the upper half of the gauge.

Is the the normal operating temp?

BTW - another thing I noticed - the gauge is calibrated in Celcius!! Aaarrrgh! ... and I guess there's no way to change it to Fahrenheit

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You have about 80F at Austin? 80C is a bit low, 85 to 90 probably normal, 100 should be at reasonable load and AC working more than at 80F.

I would expect more steady reading, unless you have some extreme speeds.

Why on earth would you want to have the temp reading in Kelvin degrees?
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Originally Posted by AustinGuy
I noticed that my engine temp. gauge hovers around the 80-100°C range. The top end is 120°C, so I'm a little concerned that it's registering on the upper half of the gauge.

Is the the normal operating temp?

BTW - another thing I noticed - the gauge is calibrated in Celcius!! Aaarrrgh! ... and I guess there's no way to change it
It's normal. The engine is designed to get up to 80-100 and stay there. A hot engine burns cleaner. The red zone really starts closer to 130. There's not way to change the gauge to Fahrenheit. Why would you want to see an ugly number like 212 instead of 100 anyway?
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You have about 80F at Austin? 80C is a bit low, 85 to 90 probably normal, 100 should be at reasonable load and AC working more than at 80F.
Uuummm..... okay, so it looks like it's normal
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Why on earth would you want to have the temp reading in Kelvin degrees?
I said "Fahrenheit", NOT Kelvin. And uummmm...... this is AMERICA - U.S.A - it's Fahrenheit here, not euroCelcius ....

MB better realize where it's largest Benz market is and make sure it configures it's cars accordingly. Afterall, the climate control reads Fahrenheit, so why would the temp. guage do Celcius? Looks like an oversight, and an annoying one at that.

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It's normal. The engine is designed to get up to 80-100 and stay there. A hot engine burns cleaner. The red zone really starts closer to 130. There's not way to change the gauge to Fahrenheit.
Thanks. I'll take your word for it.
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Why would you want to see an ugly number like 212 instead of 100 anyway?
See my response to "Diesel Benz". Not sure 212 is any uglier than 120... it's 3 digits, takes the same amount of room and means a whole heck of a lot more to an American! Sorry, I just don't like having my climate control in Fahrenheit and my temp. gauge in Celcius! That's silly at best.
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Originally Posted by AustinGuy
MB better realize where it's largest Benz market is and make sure it configures it's cars accordingly. Afterall, the climate control reads Fahrenheit, so why would the temp. guage do Celcius? Looks like an oversight, and an annoying one at that.
The largest single country for MB sales is Germany. Western Europe is a bit more than three times as many cars as the US.

I don't even remember how the AC looks but the numbers are on the LCD display while the engine temp gauge figures are printed. Easy to program the AC to show Fahrenheit or Celsius. Is there anything printed on the IC that differs for the US market? I assume they just want to use the same parts. For the engine temp gauge the numbers are not that important anyway, more the distance to the read line.

I thought Fahrenheit was invented to confuse us Europeans.
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The largest single country for MB sales is Germany. Western Europe is a bit more than three times as many cars as the US.

I don't even remember how the AC looks but the numbers are on the LCD display while the engine temp gauge figures are printed. Easy to program the AC to show Fahrenheit or Celsius. Is there anything printed on the IC that differs for the US market? I assume they just want to use the same parts. For the engine temp gauge the numbers are not that important anyway, more the distance to the read line.

I thought Fahrenheit was invented to confuse us Europeans.
Are you including Smart sales? I guess I was mainly focussing on S, C, E, Maclaren, SL, CL, CLS and GL sales... and not the other junk that MB sells in Europe I'd be willing to lay a wager that MB sells more Maclaren, S, SL and GL cars in the U.S. alone than anywhere else in the world.
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
I thought Fahrenheit was invented to confuse us Europeans.
You only have a German to blame. Fahrenheit lived in Danzig (now Gdansk in Poland of course), but he was very German. His logic (it gets very cold in Danzig so lets call a wintry temperature zero and lets call my body when I'm running a bit of a fever 100) reminds me of many Mercedes features that are so complicated nobody can figure out how to use them.
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Originally Posted by AustinGuy
Are you including Smart sales? I guess I was mainly focussing on S, C, E, Maclaren, SL, CL, CLS and GL sales... and not the other junk that MB sells in Europe I'd be willing to lay a wager that MB sells more Maclaren, S, SL and GL cars in the U.S. alone than anywhere else in the world.
MB has historically sold 20-25% of S-class production in the US. It is not their largest market for any model.
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Originally Posted by whoover
You only have a German to blame. Fahrenheit lived in Danzig (now Gdansk in Poland of course), but he was very German. His logic (it gets very cold in Danzig so lets call a wintry temperature zero and lets call my body when I'm running a bit of a fever 100) reminds me of many Mercedes features that are so complicated nobody can figure out how to use them.
I'm not good at these (either), really did not know. My only excuse then is that I'm not German.
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Originally Posted by whoover
MB has historically sold 20-25% of S-class production in the US. It is not their largest market for any model.
Perhaps true slicing data that way....

But, IIRC, US buys some 50% of global AMG production...and some 60% of global 65 production....would guess those models tend to have rich profit margins per copy....

Vaguely recall reading that though S-Class is only some 10% of MB global unit sales, it represents some 30-40% of oper profits of MB Car Gp....and let's not forget RoW buys a lot of presumably lower-margin <S550s, unlike US mkt which is only S550 and up....

Suspect MB oper profits on US sales may be richer than overall US share of MB unit sales and/or cheap US pricing would lead one to believe....
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Who cares if it's celcius or farenheit? Just make sure it doesn't go into the red.
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Thanks. I'll take your word for it.

See my response to "Diesel Benz". Not sure 212 is any uglier than 120... it's 3 digits, takes the same amount of room and means a whole heck of a lot more to an American! Sorry, I just don't like having my climate control in Fahrenheit and my temp. gauge in Celcius! That's silly at best.
I'm just glad we don't have to press 1 to read everything on our dash in english (yet).
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I'm just glad we don't have to press 1 to read everything on our dash in english (yet).
Don't even joke about it.
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Don't even joke about it.

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