S-Class (W221) 2007-2013: S 320 CDI, S 350, S 450, S 500, S 550, S 420 CDI, S 600

interested in a comparison of 4matic and traction control

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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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interested in a comparison of 4matic and traction control

because I would prefer a S 600 but do drive in snow in winter - and 4Matic is not available with 12 cyl. Thanks in advance to anyone who might have an opinion. Currently have a '06 S500.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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I can't offer first-hand expces, given my CA location, but would observe that know a couple of colleagues in NYC who are reasonably adept drivers who use their S-Class for daily commuting; one commutes intra-Greenwich...other does Greenwich-Manhattan.....each got S550 4Matics (w/std all-season tires) and within wks reverted to '08 S600 w/winter tires....and each seems quite pleased w/600 for winter duty.....

Need to assess dynamic value of ABC vs 4Matic's far more primitive chassis (and the issues w/digital vs analog interlinks btwn an archaic chassis set-up vs ESP, BrakeAssistPlus, etc etc); value of proper winter tires/wheels vs all-season (or "no-season") tires; value of 600's superior brakes vs 550.....even in NYC/Chic, much of winter is relatively dry and cold...and most snowfall on urban rds is not very deep at all....suspect a 600 w/proper winter tires is far more capable in emergent braking/handling than any 550 4Matic....

If one is often driving to deep-snow winter ski resorts, perhaps a 550 4Matic (w/proper winter tires) may be a better bet, but I suspect most S-Class buyers drive their cars in reasonably flat, well-plowed/traveled urban/suburban settings 360+d/yr.....
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Derby
because I would prefer a S 600 but do drive in snow in winter - and 4Matic is not available with 12 cyl. Thanks in advance to anyone who might have an opinion. Currently have a '06 S500.
Dont settle for a 550, get the 600 with proper snows for the winter...It still amazes me how people can compare the two cars. the 600 is a TRUE sports sedan. The 550 is very ordinary.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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wow,you should have lived in Iowa last winter.............that would change your outlook most s-class drivers operate on well plowed,flat,suburban areas.Just doesnt quite happen here like you assume.Yes,the state and county road workers do a reasonably good job of keeping the roads as good as possible,but without doubt ans550 4matic with good winter tires will still be better than an s600 or a regular s550 for that matter on snow covered roads.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Dont settle for a 550, get the 600 with proper snows for the winter...It still amazes me how people can compare the two cars. the 600 is a TRUE sports sedan. The 550 is very ordinary.

I'm just as spoiled as you . I really would have a hard time settling for a V8 again. The smooth and balanced V12 is just incredible. I always dreamed of getting a V12 but never thought it was worth the difference in price.....now I finally see what it's all about. Big performance and smooth luxury.

If anyone is looking for a W221, and you're ability to buy a V12 is limited, I'd rather see someone get a slightly used S600 for under $100K than get a new S550. The used 2007 S600 market allows for killer deals right now. Keep in mind, the S600s are wholeselling for numbers near $80K or less, so don't let a dealership push you over $85K. The 2008s are at or near $110K and some with less than 7500 miles (just broke in).
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Derby
because I would prefer a S 600 but do drive in snow in winter - and 4Matic is not available with 12 cyl. Thanks in advance to anyone who might have an opinion. Currently have a '06 S500.
Where do you live?
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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live in NYC but

upstate winter driving - often on dirt roads - appreciate very thoughtful and informative replies
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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is my assumption that the interior of the 600 contains superior material and workmanship than the 550 correct? color choice seems limited now - at least of inventory shown on autotrader - i assume the '09 will be not be very different from '08's
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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is my assumption that the interior of the 600 contains superior material and workmanship than the 550 correct?
It sure seems that way to me.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 12:06 AM
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thnks for help -

and for information my concern is that there are very few 2008 s 600 available now though i would expect a hefty discount
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Derby - I can't speak for the road conditions of upstate NY, but I can say without a doubt winter wheels with snows in the NYC area are absolutely no problem (if it's even gonna snow anymore). I did it in a CLK 430, E55 and my current S63 - all were (are) my daily drives and I commuted into the city from westchester with NO problems at all.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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afraid as this will be weekend car with majority of driving 3 hrs upstate, 4Matic necessary - unrelated question, I notice new "S" class no longer has auto/manual shifter on floor but on stalk - is effect good or bad?
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