S-Class Facelift Leaked
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That's how you guys get it for a little over half price and get option packs for next to nothing. A properly loaded S500 (550) sells for upward of $200K in Germany, and that's before taxes.
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No, it's more of a money factor/dollar vs. Euro factor/predetermined hedging that makes this discrepancy so bad. I remember when I bought a VW Phaeton, Germans had to pay $50K to $60K more for a particular car than the Americans got if for. There is no way that a few extra electronic gizmos is going to cost $100K on a car. IMO, it's a shame Germany is overcharging you for these cars. Even at the prices we pay, it's way too expensive.
A similarly loaded GM car (even trucks), costs only around $50K to $60K. I just checked out a GM Denali truck and it has rear camera, bumper sensors, dual sun roof, heated/cooled seats, very comfy seats, satellite radio, navigation system, heated steering, 400 HP engine, 4 wheel drive, integrated phone system, etc.
Cars in general are just overproduced and over priced.
As far as the BMW versus Mercedes thing, I just wish that MB could come up with better stock wheels than they do. I hated the original S600 wheels and hate those in the picture above, but BMW wheel stylists seem to be on top of their game on every car they issue.
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W222 S63 AMG
If you think wheel choices are bad on MB you should try to configure a Lexus LS - at least I could specify the AMG wheels on my S, Lexus offer no choices at all and the default wheels are so pathetic it ruins the lines of the vehicle.
BMW do offer the best selection but MB is a lot more style and customization savvy than Lexus.
BMW do offer the best selection but MB is a lot more style and customization savvy than Lexus.
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Wow. That's unbelievable.
To put that in relative terms, a top of the line 2009 Ferrari F1 Spider goes for arond $220k!!!
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2009/ferr...01/prices.html
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2010 CL65
Arguably world's cheapest cars are in Silicon Valley or Beverly Hills
Can $0-down lease a new, '10 S or CL65 for 3 yrs (for duration until totally new-tech S/CL is launched)
And given weather, topography and culture of Silicon Valley or Beverly Hills, can enjoy driving 65 365d/yr for daily commuting and for wkend mtn twisties driving (and 280 fwy AB-like blitzes)....stuff that billionaires elsewhere in world can't enjoy....more than a few German-origin software billionaire car nuts have chosen to live/work in Silicon Valley, not Munich
Can $0-down lease a new, '10 S or CL65 for 3 yrs (for duration until totally new-tech S/CL is launched)
And given weather, topography and culture of Silicon Valley or Beverly Hills, can enjoy driving 65 365d/yr for daily commuting and for wkend mtn twisties driving (and 280 fwy AB-like blitzes)....stuff that billionaires elsewhere in world can't enjoy....more than a few German-origin software billionaire car nuts have chosen to live/work in Silicon Valley, not Munich
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That must include some Designo stuff or similar, the base tax free price for a LWB S500 is 85 900 Euros, tax in Germany means 19% VAT, making it 102 221 Euros. But the price difference compared to US prices is still quite significant.
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2007 S600
What is so hard to believe is that the same car company that brings you the most beautiful car in the world, the W221, also built this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unimo...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unimo...QQcmdZViewItem
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2014 S550
What is so hard to believe is that the same car company that brings you the most beautiful car in the world, the W221, also built this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unimo...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unimo...QQcmdZViewItem
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Mercedes, Porsche, BMW, Tesla
What is so hard to believe is that the same car company that brings you the most beautiful car in the world, the W221, also built this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unimo...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unimo...QQcmdZViewItem
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Several MB's Superperformance MK III Cobra
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2007 S550 AMG with ABC
You can configure the 2010 AMG S class on the German Mercedes Web site via:
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...pA%3A13hlkpbga
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...pA%3A13hlkpbga
Last edited by irieblue; Apr 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM. Reason: typo
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2015 S550
No, it's more of a money factor/dollar vs. Euro factor/predetermined hedging that makes this discrepancy so bad. I remember when I bought a VW Phaeton, Germans had to pay $50K to $60K more for a particular car than the Americans got if for. There is no way that a few extra electronic gizmos is going to cost $100K on a car. IMO, it's a shame Germany is overcharging you for these cars. Even at the prices we pay, it's way too expensive.
A similarly loaded GM car (even trucks), costs only around $50K to $60K. I just checked out a GM Denali truck and it has rear camera, bumper sensors, dual sun roof, heated/cooled seats, very comfy seats, satellite radio, navigation system, heated steering, 400 HP engine, 4 wheel drive, integrated phone system, etc.
Cars in general are just overproduced and over priced.
As far as the BMW versus Mercedes thing, I just wish that MB could come up with better stock wheels than they do. I hated the original S600 wheels and hate those in the picture above, but BMW wheel stylists seem to be on top of their game on every car they issue.
A similarly loaded GM car (even trucks), costs only around $50K to $60K. I just checked out a GM Denali truck and it has rear camera, bumper sensors, dual sun roof, heated/cooled seats, very comfy seats, satellite radio, navigation system, heated steering, 400 HP engine, 4 wheel drive, integrated phone system, etc.
Cars in general are just overproduced and over priced.
As far as the BMW versus Mercedes thing, I just wish that MB could come up with better stock wheels than they do. I hated the original S600 wheels and hate those in the picture above, but BMW wheel stylists seem to be on top of their game on every car they issue.
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Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland
The whole facelift is very tasteful, but I just can't help but hate the new mirrors Mercedes is putting on their sedans, I really was hoping that the 2008 C-Class mirrors would make it to the W212, not so much the facelift S-Class, but I just don't care for them. I'm sure once again I will like them once I see it in person. Still waiting for us to get a used W221 at our store either traded or from auction, but I will face the truth, you'd have to be crazy to trade a W221 for an XJ
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Interestingly, a thumbnail on Mercedes' (German) website and the blueprint show the new S-Class with dual-fog lights, as they are standard on the new E-Class. As they do not appear in any other picture, and not in the configurator, either, I assume the daytime running LEDs were made standard relatively late in the process.
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Sonderklasse
Arguably world's cheapest cars are in Silicon Valley or Beverly Hills
Can $0-down lease a new, '10 S or CL65 for 3 yrs (for duration until totally new-tech S/CL is launched)
And given weather, topography and culture of Silicon Valley or Beverly Hills, can enjoy driving 65 365d/yr for daily commuting and for wkend mtn twisties driving (and 280 fwy AB-like blitzes)....stuff that billionaires elsewhere in world can't enjoy....more than a few German-origin software billionaire car nuts have chosen to live/work in Silicon Valley, not Munich
Can $0-down lease a new, '10 S or CL65 for 3 yrs (for duration until totally new-tech S/CL is launched)
And given weather, topography and culture of Silicon Valley or Beverly Hills, can enjoy driving 65 365d/yr for daily commuting and for wkend mtn twisties driving (and 280 fwy AB-like blitzes)....stuff that billionaires elsewhere in world can't enjoy....more than a few German-origin software billionaire car nuts have chosen to live/work in Silicon Valley, not Munich
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AMG
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2010 S63
Dang! I love it! Esp. the rear end. I love that mid section betw. the tail pipes. Awesome redesign. Makes the car look even beefier from behind.
2010 S65
Main cosmetic differnce seems to be the conjoined tail pipes and double-lined grille. Very sexy and classy.
Last edited by AustinGuy; Apr 14, 2009 at 12:11 AM.
