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Old 07-25-2010, 07:02 AM
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It sounds the only reson might be the relay is bad? can i just replace the relay ? or i should replace the whole SAM?
You can certainly replace the relay but I cannot see how it could be from a bad relay if it always stays on when it should not and still always turns off after 120 minutes. In addition if you state the power plug switches off immediately but the fridge does not, I cannot see how a bad relay could do that (can you confirm the independent life of the fridge power source and the rear seat power plug?).
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You can certainly replace the relay but I cannot see how it could be from a bad relay if it always stays on when it should not and still always turns off after 120 minutes. In addition if you state the power plug switches off immediately but the fridge does not, I cannot see how a bad relay could do that (can you confirm the independent life of the fridge power source and the rear seat power plug?).
Yes, i can confirm the power outlet was switched off immediately and the fridge was still working when i turned off the ignition.
I asked a tech guy to did that in the dealership which he's working for, actually i did not saw the whole process,you should know that i can't walk in the repair-shop.
Do you think if i connected the wiring harness to a wrong position or wrong relay?
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Yes, i can confirm the power outlet was switched off immediately and the fridge was still working when i turned off the ignition.
I asked a tech guy to did that in the dealership which he's working for, actually i did not saw the whole process,you should know that i can't walk in the repair-shop.
Do you think if i connected the wiring harness to a wrong position or wrong relay?
Well, I would not walk in the repair-shop, I would perform the measurements myself. Always better if you do not have to trust on what others say.

Would you be able to take a good lose-up photo from the rear fuse-box? It does sound like the fuse for the fridge is misplaced but then again like you mentioned earlier, the fuse holder is mechanically coded and one should not be able to misplace it, at least not possible to confuse near-by fuse positions.
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Well, I would not walk in the repair-shop, I would perform the measurements myself. Always better if you do not have to trust on what others say.

Would you be able to take a good lose-up photo from the rear fuse-box? It does sound like the fuse for the fridge is misplaced but then again like you mentioned earlier, the fuse holder is mechanically coded and one should not be able to misplace it, at least not possible to confuse near-by fuse positions.
The O-relay is a power outlet relay named N10/2kO,then the fridge and rear seat power outlet should be controlled by the same O-replay together,is that correct?
I am thinking about another possibility that the tech guy really wired the wiring harness to #139fuse in rear SAM, but for some reason,#139fuse did not controlled by O-relay, do you think that's possible ?

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The O-relay is a power outlet relay named N10/2kO,then the fridge and rear seat power outlet should be controlled by the same O-replay together,is that correct?
Correct, this is what the wiring diagram states.

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I am thinking about another possibility that the tech guy really wired the wiring harness to #139fuse in rear SAM, but for some reason,#139fuse did not controlled by O-relay, do you think that's possible ?
I guess anything is possible but then someone should have manufactured a wiring harness with swapped connections. They cannot mix wires at the factory by accident, connectors only fit in the correct way. If the harness was faulty, there would be some other part that would work incorrectly (may not have been installed to your car though).
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Correct, this is what the wiring diagram states.



I guess anything is possible but then someone should have manufactured a wiring harness with swapped connections. They cannot mix wires at the factory by accident, connectors only fit in the correct way. If the harness was faulty, there would be some other part that would work incorrectly (may not have been installed to your car though).
Can some one connect the wiring harness to the fuse139 and make the fuse139 connect to N-relay or some other relay?
How can i find out if the fuse139 was connected to the O-relay? is this a fixed wiring can not be changed ? i mean from fuse139 to O-relay.
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
Correct, this is what the wiring diagram states.



I guess anything is possible but then someone should have manufactured a wiring harness with swapped connections. They cannot mix wires at the factory by accident, connectors only fit in the correct way. If the harness was faulty, there would be some other part that would work incorrectly (may not have been installed to your car though).
Can i connect to fuse117? and make cigar light cable connect to the fuse139? i just find out those two fuse have same socket and connector.
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Can i connect to fuse117? and make cigar light cable connect to the fuse139? i just find out those two fuse have same socket and connector.
I cannot see a problem with that.
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Can some one connect the wiring harness to the fuse139 and make the fuse139 connect to N-relay or some other relay?
How can i find out if the fuse139 was connected to the O-relay? is this a fixed wiring can not be changed ? i mean from fuse139 to O-relay.
I don't think this would be possible at all in practise. The circuit board defines these connections and I would not start changing that.

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