dannieboiz

Seems like a lot of you have access to manhiem, I'm looking at some 07/08 S550 and the dealers are throwing all kinds of numbers at me. I would like to be a little educated to throw numbers back w/o insulting them or killing myself.

CedarZ4

I'm not trying to hijack
but I was just wondering what Manhiem is? I searched on Google and can't seem to figure out what they really do. I'm about to get a new S550 within the month and I too, like Dannieboiz and the rest of the forum, would prefer NOT to be ripped off, especially considering how the car is already 110 grand!

dannieboiz

It's an auto auction that a lot of license dealer including Mercedes go to to buy and sell their cars. As a lot has mentioned, it's a hit and miss, and there are risks. From what I've seen from you on the other post, it's not something for you.

IDriveAnM5

My next door neighbor at the office is a leasing company. He uses Manheim for everything. For instance, when he need to put a price on a used car or trade-in, he'll check Manheim and see the auction values, complete with mileage and color combos. Or, if a customer wants a certain car, he'll go there to establish a price range. He won't necessarily BUY the car from Manheim, but it is a useful research tool.

Dannieboyz: The first thing you need to know is how the dealer will react to you if you throw a Manheim number at them. They'll say, "Well, we don't know anything about the condition of the Manheim car, or how it is equipped. But, we have a real cherry of a car here on our lot, one-owner sweet old lady only drove it to church....." etc etc etc. It's the truth, it has happened to me (trade-in and used-car purchase). PS: If you already have the white '08 S550, why are you looking at another 07/08? For someone else???

grane

[QUOTE=IDriveAnM5;4761295]My next door neighbor at the office is a leasing company. He uses Manheim for everything. For instance, when he need to put a price on a used car or trade-in, he'll check Manheim and see the auction values, complete with mileage and color combos. Or, if a customer wants a certain car, he'll go there to establish a price range. He won't necessarily BUY the car from Manheim, but it is a useful research tool.

IDrive....Your final question is a good one.

To answer the original question:
With a small list of colors and mileage, perhaps you could ask your leasing friend what the recent Manheim numbers are? Then the member could use this information judiciously?

I add such things as the CPO process and any extended services to the financial evaluation of a particular car and subsequent offer. I would also ask for the service history of the car from the selling MB dealer.

Annualize a 5% net profit on a $70k car that is turned over in a month. This is a lucrative business situation. Why shouldn't a consumer have the industry information?

paomien

Manheim MMR will not tell you everything; while it tells you color, mileage, location and transaction price, it does not tell you what options the car is equipped with. For the most part, you could tell the higher priced ones are cars in a desirable color with an AMG sport package and a pano roof (or rear seat pkg), but for the same mileage, differences in equipment and color can vary the final sell price of a car by quite a bit.

dannieboiz

If you look at the original post date, it's over a month old and the thread was brought back. I have since purchased a car from an indie dealer. I found a broker that was working on auctioning one for me but I lost patience and found a car from an indie for just a little bit more than what similar cars at the auction were going for. If you have patience, you can most likely get a good deal from one of the broker. Paying $500-$750 over dealer invoice is always nice.

hadam

2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 43,266 GRAY $38,750
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 74,155 GREY $32,000
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 56,417 SILVER $37,750
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 4X2 44,788 SILVER $40,000
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 60,844 WHITE $36,000
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 42,846 WHITE $42,500
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 54,476 IRI SIL $37,500
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PN 4X2 53,810 PEWTER $38,250
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 4X2 40,090 AND GRY $41,000
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PN 4X2 27,322 ARC WHT $59,750
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 49,816 BLACK $47,500
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 51,163 BLACK $45,000
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 39,511 BLACK $48,750
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 35,311 BLACK $50,500
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 4X2 47,041 BLACK $49,000
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 66,801 GRAY $37,500
2010 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 41,937 BLACK $69,000
2010 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 19,567 BLACK $75,500

hadam

RAA OPEN 06/02/2011 Manheim Riverside Post Sale Results Thurs June 2nd, 2011
Manheim Riverside - Post-Sale Results



2003 MERCEDES S430V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 4X2 88,059 BLACK $0
2004 MERCEDES S430V4 8G 4DSN AWD 49,486 BLACK $15,400
2000 MERCEDES S500V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 138,901 BLACK $7,750
2002 MERCEDES S500V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 138,739 BLACK $0
2002 MERCEDES S500V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 4X2 81,003 SILVER $11,000
2003 MERCEDES S55 AMG 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 139,400 SILVER $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 57,212 BLACK $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 69,169 FLT GRY $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 58,696 IRI SIL $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 4X2 48,474 AND GRY $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 50,946 AND GRY $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR AWD 58,246 BLACK $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 67,433 BLACK $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 23,039 BLACK $46,750
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 4X2 66,730 FLT GRY $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 27,381 GREY $44,500
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 70,132 SILVER $38,000
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 42,554 SILVER $0
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 60,840 SILVER $36,250
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 80,772 WHITE $36,000
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 39,711 BLACK $0
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 4X2 59,114 BLACK $44,500
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 30,326 BLACK $0
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 34,293 BLACK $0
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 48,053 FLT GRY $0
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 47,697 IRI SIL $0
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 4X2 32,535 WHITE $53,250
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 72,261 IRI SIL $0
2009 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 34,185 BLACK $60,500
2009 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 13,944 GRAY $0
2009 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 35,305 IRI SIL $0
2010 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 28,737 BLACK $72,000
2004 MERCEDES S600V 12G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 4X2 48,494 GRAY $21,750
2007 MERCEDES S600V 12G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 16,511 BLACK $62,000
2008 MERCEDES S63 AMG 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 50,612 ARC WHT $69,000
2008 MERCEDES S63 AMG 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 61,369 BLACK $59,000
2007 MERCEDES S65 AMG 12G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 48,516 WHITE $68,500

hadam

RAA OPEN 05/19/2011 Manheim Riverside Post Sale Results Thurs May 19th, 2011
Manheim Riverside - Post-Sale Results



1999 MERCEDES SLK230 4G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 143,798 BLACK $4,750
2008 MERCEDES SLK280 6G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 25,731 BLACK $29,250
2008 MERCEDES SLK280 6G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 50,687 BLACK $26,500
2008 MERCEDES SLK280 6G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 27,471 DIA SIL $27,000
2010 MERCEDES SLK300 6G 2DSN A PS PB AC RH 2,697 STL GRY $41,250
2005 MERCEDES SLK350 6G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 63,099 SILVER $18,250
2007 MERCEDES SLK350 6G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 35,722 MRS RED $26,750
2009 MERCEDES SLK350 6G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 39,061 ARC WHT $29,000
2003 MERCEDES SL500 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC HT 59,533 SILVER $25,000
2003 MERCEDES SL500 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 68,733 SILVER $19,750
1999 MERCEDES SL500R 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC HT 37,296 WHITE $15,100
2004 MERCEDES SL500R 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 59,764 BLACK $27,000
2004 MERCEDES SL500R 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC HT 42,292 BLACK $27,500
2004 MERCEDES SL500R 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC CV 55,129 SILVER $26,500
2003 MERCEDES SL55 AMG 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC CV 105,642 BLACK $22,500
2005 MERCEDES SL55 AMG 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC HT 43,158 SILVER $31,000
2007 MERCEDES SL55 AMG 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 32,781 BLACK $50,000
2007 MERCEDES SL550R 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 18,226 BLACK $53,250
2007 MERCEDES SL550R 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 45,421 DIA SIL $40,500
2007 MERCEDES SL550R 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 50,369 WHITE $41,500
2009 MERCEDES SL550R 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 9,635 SIL ARW $76,500
2009 MERCEDES SL550R 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 21,194 SILVER $69,500
2009 MERCEDES SL63 AMG 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 19,421 BLACK $69,000
2009 MERCEDES SL63 AMG 8G 2DCV A PS PB AC RH 4X2 8,315 SIL ARW $97,000
2011 MERCEDES SL63 AMG 8G 2DSN A PS PB AC RH 4X2 1,079 MAG BLK $133,000
2010 MERCEDES S400HV 6G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 4,969 IRI SIL $80,750
2010 MERCEDES S400HV 6G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 6,246 IRI SIL $78,000
2010 MERCEDES S400HV 6G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 7,503 IRI SIL $82,500
2010 MERCEDES S400HV 6G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 4X2 6,723 IRI SIL $81,250
2010 MERCEDES S400HV 6G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 4X2 4,918 IRI SIL $77,000
1995 MERCEDES S420V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 155,996 BLACK $1,700
2000 MERCEDES S430V 8G 4DSN 67,543 BLUE $11,250
2005 MERCEDES S430V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 142,479 SILVER $12,250
2004 MERCEDES S500V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 127,399 SILVER $12,000
2006 MERCEDES S500V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 65,008 BLACK $24,750
2006 MERCEDES S500V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 47,622 BRI SIL $24,500
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 81,427 BLACK $36,250
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC 4X2 63,714 GRAPH $42,000
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 4X2 39,998 IRI SIL $42,000
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 59,264 IRI SIL $40,500
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 44,342 PEWTER $42,750
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 69,654 SLIVER $37,500
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC MR 4X2 60,775 WHITE $39,000
2007 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 33,421 WHITE $33,750
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PN 4X2 53,987 ARC WHT $52,500
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PG 4X2 47,891 BLACK $49,500
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 42,968 BLACK $47,500
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 47,263 BLACK $45,750
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 59,522 BLACK $46,500
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 32,919 BLACK $54,750
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 40,213 CPR BLU $52,000
2008 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 53,840 IRI SIL $42,000
2010 MERCEDES S550V 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PN 23,084 IRI SIL $62,500
2008 MERCEDES S550V4 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR AWD 28,261 BLACK $56,250
2008 MERCEDES S550V4 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PN 4X2 29,909 IRI SIL $60,000
2003 MERCEDES S600V 12G 4DSN 33,274 BLACK $21,250
2007 MERCEDES S600V 12G 4DSN A PS PB AC PN 4X2 18,630 BLACK $63,750
2008 MERCEDES S600V 12G 4DSN A PS PB AC SR 4X2 41,941 IRI SIL $58,500
2008 MERCEDES S63 AMG 8G 4DSN A PS PB AC PN 4X2 32,451 BLACK $71,000

hadam

I am looking for S550 also with sport package 2007. I will pay under or close to $35000 out the door with all taxes and fees. I am closed but not there yet on price. May be before Christmas.

grane

Some real SL 55 bargains, perhaps? Guess you have to be there.

What do the R, V and so after the model number stand for?

dannieboiz

That's like asking to get the car for $ 31k. That's doable with something 65k+ miles You gotta consider the P1,p2,p3 package too. Anything under 40k miles expect to pay around 43-50k + reg. If you're not picky in color combination you can do it quick, if you wanna get specific be prepare to pay a premium

anything be

Super Salami

I'm not sure about all of the lettering, but I do know for sure that the 'V' after the S550 indicates it's the 'long wheelbase' version, which from my understanding is the only one sold in the US anyways. So even the ones without the 'V' are still indeed the long version.

grane

Sounds like Thomas Pynchon came up with that one.

hadam

A OPEN * * * 05/05/2011 Manheim Riverside Post Sale Results Thurs May 5th, 2011
Manheim Riverside - Post-Sale Results

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YR * MAKE * * * * MODEL * * * *ENG BODY TRN PS PB AC TOP 4X4 ODOMETER COLOR * * * PRICE
*

2002 *MERCEDES * * SLK230 * * * 4G *2DCV A * PS PB AC RH * * * 100,567 BLACK * * *$7,500
2006 *MERCEDES * * SLK280 * * * 6G *2DCV A * PS PB AC HC * * * *34,981 RED * * * $21,250
2005 *MERCEDES * * SLK350 * * * 6G *2DCV 6 * PS PB AC CV *4X2 * 60,083 SILVER * *$14,250
2008 *MERCEDES * * SLK350 * * * 6G *2DCV A * PS PB AC RH *4X2 * 47,357 ARC WHT * $27,250
1995 *MERCEDES * * SL320R * * * 6G *2DCP A * PS PB AC HT * * * 125,900 GOLD * * * $5,800
1999 *MERCEDES * * SL500R * * * 8G *2DCV A * PS PB AC HT * * * 137,169 BLACK * * *$6,800
2005 *MERCEDES * * SL500R * * * 8G *2DCV A * PS PB AC RH *4X2 * 49,078 SILVER * *$29,000
2003 *MERCEDES * * SL55 AMG * * 8G *2DCV A * PS PB AC RH *4X2 * 78,728 BLACK * * $26,000
2005 *MERCEDES * * SL55 AMG * * 8G *2DCV A * PS PB AC RH *4X2 * 59,540 IRI SIL * $36,500
2005 *MERCEDES * * SL55 AMG * * 8G *2DCV A * PS PB AC HT * * * *43,156 SILVER * *$35,000
2008 *MERCEDES * * SL55 AMG * * 8G *2DCV A * PS PB AC HT *4X2 * 59,700 GRAY * * *$44,000
2000 *MERCEDES * * S430V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC MR *4X2 * 81,312 BLUE * * *$10,500
2004 *MERCEDES * * S430V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC PG *4X2 * 74,794 RED * * * $13,750
2004 *MERCEDES * * S430V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC MR *4X2 * 59,526 SILVER * *$17,750
2006 *MERCEDES * * S430V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 48,195 SILVER * *$22,250
2001 *MERCEDES * * S500V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR * * * 124,067 BLUE * * * $6,700
2003 *MERCEDES * * S500V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 *116,428 BLACK * * *$9,000
2006 *MERCEDES * * S500V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 78,816 BLUE * * *$19,250
2005 *MERCEDES * * S55 AMG * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 38,222 BLACK * * $28,750
2007 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 84,720 BLACK * * $32,500
2007 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC MR *4X2 * 90,569 GRAY * * *$31,000
2007 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR * * * *44,269 SILVER * *$37,800
2007 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 60,415 SILVER * *$35,750
2008 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 41,761 BLACK * * $49,750
2008 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 55,883 BLACK * * $47,000
2008 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 93,204 BLACK * * $38,250
2008 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 89,188 BLACK * * $38,000
2008 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 32,366 GRAY * * *$53,500
2008 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC MR *4X2 * 35,130 WHITE * * $53,500
2010 *MERCEDES * * S550V * * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR * * * *18,527 BLACK * * $70,500
2008 *MERCEDES * * S63 AMG * * *8G *4DSN A * PS PB AC SR * * * *36,551 WHITE * * $63,000
2007 *MERCEDES * * S65 AMG * * *12G 4DSN A * PS PB AC SR *4X2 * 69,391 BLACK * * $68,000

hadam

Yes, I am not to picky with colors and option. As long as it has AMG package and 2007 S550, I will be fine. Also I am looking for high mileage S550. Any thing between 60,000 to 75,000 miles will be fine. I have been bless with used MB in past, never had any major issues with MB Cars. Also thanks to mbworld and Benzworld community, I do many DIY which has saved me many $$$$$.

Right now due to crappy economy, for some reason used car are holding prices good. 4 or 5 years ago newly used MB of the lease return at auction used to go for much lesser amount. But now these used MB's in 2011 are holding pricing pretty good.

hadam

Now a days all kind of MB DEALER comes to these auction to buy cars. It is getting harder to beat these stealer at these High Line Auctions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5CAt...e_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysf7t...e_gdata_player

badboggy

I've sent you a direct email in regards to some post sales results to see if you can help me.

thanks

hadam

Check your email. I sent you last 4 auctions list.