does any car beat an S class?
10-21-2011, 09:49 AM
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I'd rather have the Ghost than the Phantom. The looks and size alone would confirm that, the price "decrease" is just a plus.
10-26-2011, 03:04 PM
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If you look carefully at the lines on both the RR and the 7 they are close enough that you might think they were both designed in the same firm. They are too close to dismiss that easily. The Chrysler 300 response was the biggest joke of all. I never said you could determine chasis sharing based on looks... It was simply in response to the fact you can't tell that one company was responsible for making both. What chasis/platform does the s class share it's roots with? What parts does it use from other brands? I'd love to know since "every" car company uses parts from each other.
11-02-2011, 10:13 AM
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Nothing beats the new 2012 S Class
I drove the panamera S
and the 2012 S 550 .There is no comparison in handeling and ride the S 550 is again the best Luxury Sedan on the marketYou can use the True Carr or Fleet pricing. Stock is fantastic in Newport Beach, I went there last weekend
11-02-2011, 11:54 AM
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The S550 handled better than the Panamera S?
Someone on the BMW 7 Boards also said that the S550 handled and had better steering than his old F01 750. I always thought the S was the least "handling/sporty" and most luxuriously oriented ride of them all.
Someone on the BMW 7 Boards also said that the S550 handled and had better steering than his old F01 750. I always thought the S was the least "handling/sporty" and most luxuriously oriented ride of them all.
11-02-2011, 09:36 PM
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2014 S550, 2014 Porsche Turbo S, 2013 Bentley GT Speed W12
If I were shopping the new s class vs the new 7 series, I would most likely get the new 7. The V8 is a beast and it just looks badass, esp in white.
11-02-2011, 11:41 PM
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The F01 only really impresses me fully when in White and with M-Pack. In fact, in hot clean white, with M-Pack, it practically stuns me. Most other combos on it, I'm fairly passive on.
12-10-2011, 02:20 PM
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As for comparing Ghost to Phantom,the latter is truly a chauffeur driven only affair.
Ghost (much more dynamic,superior performance and practical size for parking) is the ultimate luxury for those for whose money is no object and they enjoy driving themselves.
Btw,the real cost (as those who had a chance to really price on of them,not just read in a magazine) of these 2 cars is very similar,since most Ghost are optioned from low to mid $300k and most Phantoms drop to that level with their usual heavy discounts.
Ghost (much more dynamic,superior performance and practical size for parking) is the ultimate luxury for those for whose money is no object and they enjoy driving themselves.
Btw,the real cost (as those who had a chance to really price on of them,not just read in a magazine) of these 2 cars is very similar,since most Ghost are optioned from low to mid $300k and most Phantoms drop to that level with their usual heavy discounts.
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12-11-2011, 11:05 PM
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Oh my....K/A why do you take what is said in other forums and preach it like gospel? You keep saying the 7-Series chassis uses this and uses that, yet there is no proof of it being inferior to the S-Class or A8 platforms. If there is I'd like to see it. To say that it uses less advanced steel is to say what, that the car isn't safe? What is the point? To say it would bother you knowing that it shares a chassis with the 7-Series would bother you? Why? Do you think it drives like a 7-Series. I seems way too many people here are confusing badge engineering with sharing bits and pieces or architecture with other cars, there is a big difference between the two practices. No one here has looked under either car (if you have, I'd love to hear about what you saw and what they share) or seen enough of the Ghost's guts to see what it shares. It now shares it chassis with a 5-Series? OMG. The Ghost is darn near twice the size of a 5-Series.
All this platform talk, give me a break. If no one told anyone here that the Ghost was based on the 7-Series no one here would know or even care. Apparently Rolls-Royce buyers don't care about this nonsense. Heck if you're going to knock the Ghost you may as well knock the Phantom too since it was also designed and engineered by BMW, but doesn't share a chassis with any BMWs, since Rolls split off on its own in 2003 or whenever it was.
I'm shocked at how mis-informed this board and site is. All kinds of misinformation passed off as facts constantly.
A Rolls Royce isn't trying to be a "dynamic" car, its vying for the title of best luxury car on earth. Rolls-Royces "waft" they don't handle like a S-Class or 7-Series, that isn't the point. A 760Li to Ghost isn't the same thing as the Tahoe-Yukon-Escalade where you can clearly see that they're the same product. No one here would know what chassis is underneath the Ghost BMW didn't tell you.
The ML and Jeep GC are designed by Fiat per some on other boards because Fiat now owns Chrysler. My goodness this place is lost.
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All this platform talk, give me a break. If no one told anyone here that the Ghost was based on the 7-Series no one here would know or even care. Apparently Rolls-Royce buyers don't care about this nonsense. Heck if you're going to knock the Ghost you may as well knock the Phantom too since it was also designed and engineered by BMW, but doesn't share a chassis with any BMWs, since Rolls split off on its own in 2003 or whenever it was.
I'm shocked at how mis-informed this board and site is. All kinds of misinformation passed off as facts constantly.
A Rolls Royce isn't trying to be a "dynamic" car, its vying for the title of best luxury car on earth. Rolls-Royces "waft" they don't handle like a S-Class or 7-Series, that isn't the point. A 760Li to Ghost isn't the same thing as the Tahoe-Yukon-Escalade where you can clearly see that they're the same product. No one here would know what chassis is underneath the Ghost BMW didn't tell you.
The ML and Jeep GC are designed by Fiat per some on other boards because Fiat now owns Chrysler. My goodness this place is lost.
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sir,
great post.
i, too, assuming that you do, laugh @ the things which i read on here.
it is a repulsive that in todays world, there are people, whom think only things which they have are the best, while things which they do not own are "not good enough".
i know people whom act like this in real life, and i read it daily on the internet.
of course, the rolls royce ghost is "no good", untill you spend the nearly three hundred thousand dollars to have one in your drive way.
please gentlemen, let us have some feelings for those whom may have more, or less than us.
12-13-2011, 10:21 PM
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sir,
great post.
i, too, assuming that you do, laugh @ the things which i read on here.
it is a repulsive that in todays world, there are people, whom think only things which they have are the best, while things which they do not own are "not good enough".
i know people whom act like this in real life, and i read it daily on the internet.
of course, the rolls royce ghost is "no good", untill you spend the nearly three hundred thousand dollars to have one in your drive way.
please gentlemen, let us have some feelings for those whom may have more, or less than us.
great post.
i, too, assuming that you do, laugh @ the things which i read on here.
it is a repulsive that in todays world, there are people, whom think only things which they have are the best, while things which they do not own are "not good enough".
i know people whom act like this in real life, and i read it daily on the internet.
of course, the rolls royce ghost is "no good", untill you spend the nearly three hundred thousand dollars to have one in your drive way.
please gentlemen, let us have some feelings for those whom may have more, or less than us.
Eloquently stated...Especially the last part.
01-26-2012, 10:29 PM
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Hello to all, I recently purchased an 2008 s 600, mystic/ designo, love the interior / exterior of the vehicle & all it has to offer, however I am getting some engine noise (tick/wrap) unsure as to what it is,. 36 k on engine& still under warranty Dealer says it part of the v12s characteristics, am not sure. I have spoken with owners of s65 model with 6.0 v12, all say there is no noise from that engine, so if anyone has an 07/08 s65 model for sale , I would be interested, id prefer white with designo porcelain interior if at all possible,if anyone is looking at selling in the next month or so could you send a pm, thanx, Randy
01-27-2012, 03:04 AM
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It is matter of personal taste, deepness of pocket, nationality and many others factors. I would say many people take Hyundai Equus over S class, since it is bigger, more comfortable back seats, better leather and even more power unless you go with S63. In my personal opinion A8 interior is nicer, although popping up navigation screen looks weird. I know many makers return to this design, for example Cadillac, but I preffer inline design. Shifter is also rundimental now, so no reason make it too big and take lot real estate of center console. Anyway, no any other car gives so much appearance as S class, so if it is better, you still should stay with S.
01-27-2012, 02:50 PM
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I hope you're kidding. Equus is shorter (3" overall and almost 5" in the wheelbase), the design is crappy, tons of plastic, the seats are shapeless, leather feels like polyurethane, way less torque, and rocks like a boat while cornering.
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01-27-2012, 04:16 PM
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my daughter and I were playing in a S550 today at the dealer.......wow!!!the seats man..the seats!!!
01-28-2012, 12:51 AM
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I am not kidding and Equus beats even Roys. Sure S owners will never accept that.
Read this: http://carsort.com/compare/Hyundai-E...ls-Royce-Ghost
BTW what do you mean by plastic? What kind of material S class uses? Do you think only metal and leather? Most of knobs and controls have plastic inside. Using wood and metal will make car extremely heavy, from other side plastic prevent electricity going uncontrolled, so it is required anyway.
Read this: http://carsort.com/compare/Hyundai-E...ls-Royce-Ghost
BTW what do you mean by plastic? What kind of material S class uses? Do you think only metal and leather? Most of knobs and controls have plastic inside. Using wood and metal will make car extremely heavy, from other side plastic prevent electricity going uncontrolled, so it is required anyway.
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This is the same argument that says a Hyundai Sonata is better than an E-Class.
Yes, on paper, Hyundai is tactfully beating anyone within even a far vicinity of their price range. However, the finer details, the obvious details, the craftmanship, workmanship, etc. they are chintzier and not near the level of Mercedes. Not an Equus to an S, nor a Sonata or Genesis to an E, or a Elantra to a C, etc.
Yes, on paper, Hyundai is tactfully beating anyone within even a far vicinity of their price range. However, the finer details, the obvious details, the craftmanship, workmanship, etc. they are chintzier and not near the level of Mercedes. Not an Equus to an S, nor a Sonata or Genesis to an E, or a Elantra to a C, etc.
01-28-2012, 07:48 AM
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I can certainly see myself in a S class......but not until I'm over 50 at least.....if I live that long
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I am not kidding and Equus beats even Roys. Sure S owners will never accept that.
Read this: http://carsort.com/compare/Hyundai-E...ls-Royce-Ghost
BTW what do you mean by plastic? What kind of material S class uses? Do you think only metal and leather? Most of knobs and controls have plastic inside.
Read this: http://carsort.com/compare/Hyundai-E...ls-Royce-Ghost
BTW what do you mean by plastic? What kind of material S class uses? Do you think only metal and leather? Most of knobs and controls have plastic inside.
My seat movement switches, comand controllers and switches are made from aluminium. there might be a 0.002% of hardened high gloss and satin gloss ceramic which finally does a last coat for protection.
My E and C class cars have the metallized plastic switches and finishes inside.
01-28-2012, 02:10 PM
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I am not kidding and Equus beats even Roys. Sure S owners will never accept that.
Read this: http://carsort.com/compare/Hyundai-E...ls-Royce-Ghost
BTW what do you mean by plastic? What kind of material S class uses? Do you think only metal and leather? Most of knobs and controls have plastic inside. Using wood and metal will make car extremely heavy, from other side plastic prevent electricity going uncontrolled, so it is required anyway.
Read this: http://carsort.com/compare/Hyundai-E...ls-Royce-Ghost
BTW what do you mean by plastic? What kind of material S class uses? Do you think only metal and leather? Most of knobs and controls have plastic inside. Using wood and metal will make car extremely heavy, from other side plastic prevent electricity going uncontrolled, so it is required anyway.
