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Old May 22, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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Factory 20" wheels and some confusion...

I do love the style of the 19" sport wheels I have. I know also, there is a 20" version for the plus 1, that isn't as pointed of a spoke, but then I also found another 20" wheel, which is also different than the normal 20" plus 1.

I'm trying to figure out which cars come with this slighty different wheel and if it's a newer wheel or older. It seems pretty rare.

Here is the standard 20" plus 1 wheel that you see on most cars with plus 1:


Now, here is the other 20" wheel:


If you stare at them long enough, they start to look the same, but they are different. The 2nd looks more concave or something?
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Old May 22, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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if you look at the 2nd one, the five stars are skinnier. Take a look at the lug holes and you will see the difference.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 04:27 PM
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Yes, the second wheel has a more muscular definition than the first one.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 05:14 PM
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Possible the 2nd was exclusive to the S63/65. You'd need to get behind the back of one and get a part number.

When I bought my S63 wheels I first took a wheel's part number down to MB to verify it was for the 221. The parts guy pulled up a bunch of different wheel faces for that same part #. I may be able to get that from the EPC.

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Old May 22, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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I ran that S63's VIN (the white one on EBay) through the EPC. Per the EPC that wheel is part #A2214013402, item #115:

Pieced together a full set on EBay for $2,179.94 shipped.

This guy has the two fronts for sale:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-CL63-S63-2008-2011-20-x8-5-FACTORY-Wheel-Rim-FRONT-85028-2214013302-/111348014390?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Wheels&hash=item19ecdbdd36&vxp=mtr
Rear #1: http://www.ebay.com/itm/251169980143

Rear #2: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261468609211
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Old May 22, 2014 | 11:41 PM
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Hmm, very cool. Does remanufactured bother you? And how does one do staggered with 4-matic. You can do 275's in the rear like non.

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Old May 23, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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Yes and no. If you want a specific OEM wheel set reman'd is cost effective but there's no way to know what they looked like before they were repaired. The only issues I've had previously have been cosmetic (premature clear coat failure). The alternative is through the dealer, and I'm guessing that's $4k to $5k.

You can run staggered on 4matic, just keep the difference in rolling diameter between front and rear to under 3% when you choose tires. (You could run the 275's, just choose a front tire with a sidewall height that keeps the overall diameter of the front wheel within 3% of the overall diameter of the rear.

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Old May 27, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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Found these on EBay. 19" staggered. Correct offsets for a W221 as well. Pretty good looking replica.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/19-034-AMG-STYLE-WHEELS-RIMS-FITS-MERCEDES-E220-E250-E300-E350-E400-E500-E550-E63-e-/271506987892?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

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Old May 28, 2014 | 02:35 AM
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If they made those in 20's or 21's.... that's a great looking wheel.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 09:44 PM
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Jason DO NOT BUY REMANUFACTURED WHEELS!!!!! Search for a good pair of take offs from either ebay or craigslist. Only issue is that most sets u will find will be staggered. They are out there good luck!
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wilassasin
Jason DO NOT BUY REMANUFACTURED WHEELS!!!!! Search for a good pair of take offs from either ebay or craigslist. Only issue is that most sets u will find will be staggered. They are out there good luck!
Jason isn't buying any wheels. He just looks at pictures of wheels on the internet

Have you had a bad experience with reman'd wheels? My current S63 take offs were reconditioned, but I was able to see them before they went to the refurb shop and the damage was all curb rash. They came out beautifully at $500 for the set. Looked brand new.

It's definitely possible for an unscrupulous shop to weld a cracked wheel and then cover the repair with paint, although I've had two full sets on my 220's that were fine.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike5215
Jason isn't buying any wheels. He just looks at pictures of wheels on the internet

Have you had a bad experience with reman'd wheels? My current S63 take offs were reconditioned, but I was able to see them before they went to the refurb shop and the damage was all curb rash. They came out beautifully at $500 for the set. Looked brand new.

It's definitely possible for an unscrupulous shop to weld a cracked wheel and then cover the repair with paint, although I've had two full sets on my 220's that were fine.
I would definitely avoid ordering remanufactured wheels online, but if someone could get more info such as you did and also view the product 1st then I don't see an issue with it. It's just that you never know what you're getting and many companies are pumping out these wheels after repairing them and it's a mess. There's a lot of over spraying, improper color matching compared to oem and also I know people who had vibration issues. I'm sorry I just don't think it's worth the aggravation.

That was a great price btw.

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Originally Posted by wilassasin
I would definitely avoid ordering remanufactured wheels online, but if someone could get more info such as you did and also view the product 1st then I don't see an issue with it. It's just that you never know what you're getting and many companies are pumping out these wheels after repairing them and it's a mess.

That was a great price btw.
I paid $1000 in total. A buddy of mine owns a high end body shop and I had my old S430 in for some work a couple of years ago. He knew I was a Mercedes guy and he asked me to look at a set of wheels that an insurance company had replaced for a customer in an S63 who had spun out and managed to curb all four.

I wasn't interested for myself but I suggested he get them refurbed and sell them on EBay. I never gave them another thought. When I bought the S550 I stopped by the shop to show off the car and the refurb'd S63 set was stacked in a corner of his office. He paid $500 for reconditioning and then never bothered to try to sell them. I gave him a grand to cover the recon and some profit for his troubles.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 06:06 PM
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Good info here. Finding the right wheels is like finding the right woman. Not easy... These are not bad either.

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Originally Posted by Jason B
I do love the style of the 19" sport wheels I have. I know also, there is a 20" version for the plus 1, that isn't as pointed of a spoke, but then I also found another 20" wheel, which is also different than the normal 20" plus 1.

I'm trying to figure out which cars come with this slighty different wheel and if it's a newer wheel or older. It seems pretty rare.

Here is the standard 20" plus 1 wheel that you see on most cars with plus 1:

Now, here is the other 20" wheel:

If you stare at them long enough, they start to look the same, but they are different. The 2nd looks more concave or something?
1bad750. See this post.
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Old Mar 1, 2015 | 04:23 PM
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Those are the s63 wheels!!!
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Old Mar 1, 2015 | 04:28 PM
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Yeah, as far as OEM goes the single spoke S63 is my favorite. I have the split 5 spoke which are also nice but not as aggressive looking.
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 09:43 PM
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The wheel on the bottom is for an s63. Slightly different. Part of the spokes are slightly raised.
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 10:36 PM
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Okay...good observation. The only other way a careful observer could have picked up on that was to read the thread.
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 10:52 PM
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Okay...good observation. The only other way a careful observer could have picked up on that was to read the thread.
Is that sarcasm?
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I know a friend who has a 63 and the rims are the concave. I preffer the 20" AMG Plus rims. I am considering those.
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