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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 03:49 PM
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I really don't understand the point of these brackets. Is it to make your car look like something with a mounted cell phone from the 1980's? Does a rear window mounted antenna come with the kit?


Leave your phone in your pocket or briefcase and drive on full alert for a change. With all of the morons who are distracted by texting, searching for songs or other items on their phone, and have their heads in the clouds while driving and causing accidents and deaths of innocent people, it's enough of a challenge to avoid these idiots and save our own lives by driving at full attention. Don't be part of the problem.
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The brackets are for people who have the kind of phone they're not ashamed of. I use mine as my primary music player via Bluetooth Audio so it's nice to have direct control. In that form it's no more a dangerous distraction than any other button or control system in the car.

It's also kind of tough to charge your phone while its in your briefcase.
I agree that the bracket, in some ways, ruins the opulent interior. I like the Kuda setup better from an aesthetics perspective. The one I installed is not ideal by any stretch. Like I said, I don't love it. It may just be a compromise that I end up living with.

Just because I want to have a phone holder, it doesn't mean that I intend to be one of the "morons who are distracted by texting, searching for songs or other items on their phone, and have their heads in the clouds while driving and causing accidents and deaths of innocent people." I too, like to have a holder that allows me to plug in a charger from underneath. I too, will use the phone to stream content. Everyone's requirement and preferences are different. Having a natural place to put the phone and allow it to charge, especially on long drives, is useful....
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The brackets are for people who have the kind of phone they're not ashamed of. I use mine as my primary music player via Bluetooth Audio so it's nice to have direct control. In that form it's no more a dangerous distraction than any other button or control system in the car.

It's also kind of tough to charge your phone while its in your briefcase.
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I agree that the bracket, in some ways, ruins the opulent interior. I like the Kuda setup better from an aesthetics perspective. The one I installed is not ideal by any stretch. Like I said, I don't love it. It may just be a compromise that I end up living with.

Just because I want to have a phone holder, it doesn't mean that I intend to be one of the "morons who are distracted by texting, searching for songs or other items on their phone, and have their heads in the clouds while driving and causing accidents and deaths of innocent people." I too, like to have a holder that allows me to plug in a charger from underneath. I too, will use the phone to stream content. Everyone's requirement and preferences are different. Having a natural place to put the phone and allow it to charge, especially on long drives, is useful....

That's exactly the kind of lame justification I was expecting to see. Thanks for not disappointing.


Did you ever think about a cigarette lighter charger for your phone? You can then just put it into your center consul and forget about it while it charges. And the beauty of your car is that all phone functions can easily be controlled through COMAND without having to fumble with the phone.


Also, your car is new enough that you can stream music through BT to your car and control everything for that too through COMAND. There's really no point to putting another distracting device at arms length away.
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 04:32 PM
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That's exactly the kind of lame justification I was expecting to see. Thanks for not disappointing.

Did you ever think about a cigarette lighter charger for your phone? You can then just put it into your center consul and forget about it while it charges. And the beauty of your car is that all phone functions can easily be controlled through COMAND without having to fumble with the phone.

Also, your car is new enough that you can stream music through BT to your car and control everything for that too through COMAND. There's really no point to putting another distracting device at arms length away.
Dave--I have no issues with your comments and opinions, but why use such an attacking tone? "That's exactly the kind of lame justification I was expecting to see. Thanks for not disappointing. " I try to maintain respect and stay cordial in my conversations, but I don't get what prompted this?

At the same time, I would appreciate it if you provide me with the same respect and allow me the opinion and preference of some way that is not yours.

W221s, as far as I know, cannot stream directly through COMAND. I need the Viseeo device. With Android, I do not have full control. And what if I wanted to stream via a radio app? It is also not factual that "all phone functions can easily be controlled through COMAND..."

In terms of charging, I can use a charger plugged into the glove box, and while the phone is in the holder, the connector goes in from underneath, allowing me to keep the ashtray closed, or save that receptacle for the passenger. It actually keeps things neater that way. I can come up with 100 reasons why I prefer what I have set up, but it comes down to preferences and individual needs. It is my car, so I figure I get to do what works for me. I just didn't figure that I'd get attacked over it....
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by snovvman
Dave--I have no issues with your comments and opinions, but why use such an attacking tone? "That's exactly the kind of lame justification I was expecting to see. Thanks for not disappointing. " I try to maintain respect and stay cordial in my conversations, but I don't get what prompted this?

At the same time, I would appreciate it if you provide me with the same respect and allow me the opinion and preference of some way that is not yours.

W221s, as far as I know, cannot stream directly through COMAND. I need the Viseeo device. With Android, I do not have full control. And what if I wanted to stream via a radio app? It is also not factual that "all phone functions can easily be controlled through COMAND..."

In terms of charging, I can use a charger plugged into the glove box, and while the phone is in the holder, the connector goes in from underneath, allowing me to keep the ashtray closed, or save that receptacle for the passenger. It actually keeps things neater that way. I can come up with 100 reasons why I prefer what I have set up, but it comes down to preferences and individual needs. It is my car, so I figure I get to do what works for me. I just didn't figure that I'd get attacked over it....

I didn't mean to come off as in your face. It's just that a couple of my kids friends were killed in car accidents recently because they were doing stuff on their phones when they died. It has also caused heartbreak for the other families affected by those tragic accidents. This hits very close to home for me. It's a known fact that drivers distracted by their phones are even more dangerous than drunk drivers. We don't need more folks adding to the epidemic.


On a 2013, you can certainly stream directly to your car with the Visseo device, and flip through your music directly on COMAND and your steering wheel controls....at least that's what I've seen many times on this board. Telephone functions are super simple to use through COMAND. I even have full access to phone lists, last dialed list, incoming calls list, texts, etc directly through COMAND on my 2007. I'm sure your newer car has even more phone functions than mine.


If you're worried about a clean look and keeping your cigarette lighter availably for a passenger, then I'm sure you can run power to your center consul and plug your phone in there. You won't get a cleaner look than that.
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, anything Dave doesn't have/want in his car is junk and/or a hazard to other motorists. Any phone that's not an Android is overpriced, inferior or both. Any warranty other than the one he got from his CU is either overpriced, worthless or both. Any 221 without a V12 is third rate. Any S Class in a color combination other than his own shows dirt more.

I think the sooner we just agree to replace our own judgment and opinions with Dave's, the happier we'll all be.

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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 12:55 PM
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^^^ This coming from a guy whose majority of posts are loaded in sarcasm or some sort of smart *** comment. More of the same?


I guess Mike has been fortunate so far to not be involved in an accident where he's been distracted. At his ripe old age, he better be careful of the law of averages finally catching up to him as he's gazing at the awesomeness of his new I-phone sitting in that pretty little cradle.
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveW68
^^^ This coming from a guy whose majority of posts are loaded in sarcasm or some sort of smart *** comment. More of the same?


I guess Mike has been fortunate so far to not be involved in an accident where he's been distracted. At his ripe old age, he better be careful of the law of averages finally catching up to him as he's gazing at the awesomeness of his new I-phone sitting in that pretty little cradle.

I have a wider field of vision than you do because my head isn't up my a$$. Look, I think it's great that you're passionate about the dangers of distracted driving. I have a friend whose kid choked on a hot dog, but I'm not all pissed off at people who like hot dogs. Get over it.
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike5215
I have a wider field of vision than you do because my head isn't up my a$$. Look, I think it's great that you're passionate about the dangers of distracted driving. I have a friend whose kid choked on a hot dog, but I'm not all pissed off at people who like hot dogs. Get over it.

I somehow get the feeling that if or when the day comes that you cause an accident due to your lack of paying full attention to the road and your surroundings when you drive, we won't be hearing about it due to your super-human abilities being compromised.


Your mockery of a very serious situation shows an utter lack of maturity....akin to some smart assed teenager. While I appreciate and often laugh at many of your posts, I can see why some folks get pissed off at you.
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Well make up your mind Dave. One post back I was an old man. Now I'm an unruly teenager.

If you'd like to start a thread and share your personal experiences with the pitfalls of distracted driving I assure you I'll be completely thoughtful and respectful.

If you're going to try to leverage your experience with a tragedy caused by distracted driving to win an argument on an internet forum that you started with a guy who wants a cell phone mount, that's just pathetic.

And I presume you had to have a biturbo V12 because you're all about obeying the speed limit and driving defensively. Please.

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Well make up your mind Dave. One post back I was an old man. Now I'm an unruly teenager.

If you'd like to start a thread and share your personal experiences with the pitfalls of distracted driving I assure you I'll be completely thoughtful and respectful.

If you're going to try to leverage your experience with a tragedy caused by distracted driving to win an argument on an internet forum that you started with a guy who wants a cell phone mount, that's just pathetic.

And I presume you had to have a biturbo V12 because you're all about obeying the speed limit and driving defensively. Please.

Old age and lack of maturity aren't that far fetched. I know plenty of people like you.


What's pathetic is that you cannot seem to make the connection that a phone mount that puts your phone always in sight and within reach while driving will cause more distractions due to the likelihood that you're going to be taking your eyes away from the road more, not less.


BTW, I'm not looking to win any arguments. God knows that's impossible with a guy like you. I'm just trying to bring to light that nobody needs another distraction when they're driving. And what the OP installed will invariably lead to more distractions. It's bad enough that we have to protect our own asses from all of the other distracted drivers around us.


To your point about my car....I do drive very defensively and don't haul *** around town. What does a V12 TT in a luxury car have to do with that? Have you thought about the fact that the S600 comes loaded to the gills with every amenity that MB has to offer....and that I might like those amenities? Why do you see 60-75 year old men putzing around town in Corvettes and Porsches? Perhaps they just like those cars and not necessarily the insane power that comes with them. I didn't even race around in my M5. I just liked the car.
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Pay attention to the road... Love seeing everyone driving with their head and eyes pointed at the iphone in their lap and they swerve and slam on the brakes suddenly

Love it
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Sure, Dave. And I read Playboy for the articles. I don't know what's more lame...driving a 600 hp car like an old lady because you like the Alacantra headliner or pretending on the forum that you never get into the throttle. Or pretending you never got into the throttle on an M5. It's like marrying a supermodel so you can dry-hump her

Guys are here to talk cars. If we want a sermon we'll go to church. Agree it's a serious issue. Wrong venue.

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Pay attention to the road... Love seeing everyone driving with their head and eyes pointed at the iphone in their lap and they swerve and slam on the brakes suddenly

Love it
Exactly. Get that iPhone out of your lap and put it in a mount so you're not fumbling around with it while you're trying to drive. I recommend the Kuda leather mount and Pro-Clips drop in cradle.
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Got any kids Mike? If so, how old are the?
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Originally Posted by DaveW68
Got any kids Mike? If so, how old are the?
Nothing is funnier to me than a guy who starts an argument, then proclaims he's not going to engage me in an argument because he's above that kind of thing, and then continues to argue.

Pick one.
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Got any kids Mike? If so, how old are the?
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Nothing is funnier to me than a guy who starts an argument, then proclaims he's not going to engage me in an argument because he's above that kind of thing, and then continues to argue.

Pick one.

Exactly how was my question an argument?
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Sorry, you've used up your allotment of poorly disguised set up questions for the day. Is there a point of some kind that you'd like to make? And stop PM'ing me with eight paragraph diatribes about how superior your car is. It's gay. Nobody should have that much of their perception of value or self-worth attached to a car. Drive a Camry and spend the extra money on a therapist who can help you work through your issues with insecurity and over compensation.
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Sorry, you've used up your allotment of poorly disguised set up questions for the day. Is there a point of some kind that you'd like to make? And stop PM'ing me with eight paragraph diatribes about how superior your car is. It's gay. Nobody should have that much of their perception of value or self-worth attached to a car. Drive a Camry and spend the extra money on a therapist who can help you work through your issues with insecurity and over compensation.


Thank you for that Mike. You're a tool....and now everybody who reads this will likely come to the same conclusion. Enjoy all of you little add-ons.
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I forgot to add that you're a liar too. Sorry for not including it in the last post.
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Thank you for that Mike. You're a tool....and now everybody who reads this will likely come to the same conclusion. Enjoy all of you little add-ons.
You're welcome. And speaking of tools I'd like to point out that both the Kuda Leather Mount and the Pro Clip dash mount install without tools and can be removed cleanly.

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I forgot to add that you're a liar too. Sorry for not including it in the last post.
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Permission to post the PM?

Since you asked so nicely, here it is:


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In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, anything Dave doesn't have/want in his car is junk and/or a hazard to other motorists. Any phone that's not an Android is overpriced, inferior or both. Any warranty other than the one he got from his CU is either overpriced, worthless or both. Any 221 without a V12 is third rate. Any S Class in a color combination other than his own shows dirt more.

I think the sooner we just agree to replace our own judgment and opinions with Dave's, the happier we'll all be.

Really Mike? I've been playing nice in the sandbox with you for a long time....and you decide to make these comments publicly about me? I've enjoyed your light-hearted humor and whit on the board and have even contributed to your mayhem and defended you when others have misunderstood your intentions. Have I not contributed any helpful info to this forum at all? It would seem not after your comments.


Once you've lost somebody close to your family due to distracted driving, perhaps you'll better understand where I was coming from. I hope to God you never have to go through it with your kids, or anybody close to you. These S-classes are loaded with tons of distractions already, so MY OPINION (yes, this is still a forum full of opinions), is that we don't need to add any more.


And regarding your jab at credit union warranties, I just hooked up a fellow forum member who owns an S63 with the exact same warranty I have through my credit union and he couldn't be any happier after searching for coverage for more than 2 years. He doesn't live in my area, so it took some back door maneuvering to get that done. In my quest to help him, I learned that even though most credit unions are part of the CUNA network, almost all of them offer inferior warranties through other companies (if they offered any at all) than mine happened to offer on the 600 and AMG cars, and it's very difficult to find a credit union that offers the same policy that I have. Loaded with this new info, I'll just chalk it up to getting very lucky to be part of a very limited number of credit unions that offer this kind of policy, especially on the 600's and AMG's. Although I learned that many of the credit unions still offer low priced and high quality coverage on the S550's.


And regarding your other jabs about V12's, Android phones, and color combo's....whatever dude.


Enjoy your NA V8, I-phone mount, light colored interior (please tell me you have light colored interior... ) CPO'd Benz. I hope you find years of safe motoring pleasure.
Sorry dude, but if you don't want me to respond to a call-out in the forum, don't post a call out in the forum.
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You two- stop it. Seriously. All fun and games until somebody starts to take it too personally.

We all have out truths and I think all of us are at the point of life where an Internet forum is not going to change who we are.
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You two- stop it. Seriously. All fun and games until somebody starts to take it too personally.

We all have out truths and I think all of us are at the point of life where an Internet forum is not going to change who we are.
Well said. I'm out.
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