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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 02:41 PM
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the X3 and GLK just look so............honestly, I always call them women cars...same with the range rover evoque. My wife says there are no "women" cars but to me some cars just look like they should not be driven by men. :-/
I see what you mean, I was sort of looking at an X3 and I had one as a loaner at one point. It's ok but it's just unattractive to me. I drove a friends new Pilot and I just don't have any desire at all for that, I'd much prefer an older Landcruiser.
I was really looking for a 2010 535Xi m-sport wagon but there were so few made, it's difficult to find one. Also it's an older design and not great from that perspective.
The S550 popped up at a local MB dealer P2, AMG and it was really nice, no accidents, 1 owner, low mileage, no rim damage, new OEM tires, batteries, services, trans fluid changed on time. Not too expensive.
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 02:50 PM
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I test drove a used 4S convertible a couple of years ago. It might have been that specific car but it was disappointing, numb steering, floppy suspension, and rattly.
On another occasion I had driven a Boxster S which I thought was a great driving car, but it was smoked in and had a transmission/ clutch issue. I think I'd like a GT3. Maybe if I'm feeling rich at some point.
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 02:52 PM
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Depends on the weather
2015 GT3RS....a few guys around here have those with about 200 miles on them as they are garage queens lol.

I see the ferraris and lambos being driven as daily drivers a lot.
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 03:07 PM
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Something close or closer to 50k:
http://m.cars.com/vehicledetail/#vdp...ngId=653887613
We're pretty far from the OP though.
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MrRat
Something close or closer to 50k:
http://m.cars.com/vehicledetail/#vdp...ngId=653887613
We're pretty far from the OP though.
That's decent. I know my fleet will down to 1 daily driver and 1 exotic car when I do get it...because it will be that same model year that I buy it. I'm only 33 though so I'm enjoying testing all of these different car brands for now and I don't have to hear my wife...once I for out 100k+ in cash she is going to tell me it better last forever and never break down lol

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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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once I for out 100k+ in cash she is going to tell me it better last forever and neve break down lol
She must know zero about Euro exotics. Always in the shop and cost a mint to maintain.
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 03:58 PM
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She must know zero about Euro exotics. Always in the shop and cost a mint to maintain.
lol
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 08:28 PM
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I'm young and plenty of brains lol, good at math...when it comes to money at least lol
I specifically avoided mentioning you by name. 😊
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 11:50 PM
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I am currently hunting for an S550 w/ AMG sport package for my soon to be wife as a wedding gift. It's good looking, well performing, and it's safe enough for our 4 month old baby girl.

Problem is I can't find one! The only S550s available around my area are the base model. Also I can't do the 2010-up version because it exceeds my budget.

We can deal with the base's insurance rates, but are the insurance rates for the Sport any higher than the base due to the fact that it's less common?

OR

Should I just buy the base model without the AMG Sport Package and slap on the AMG looks later?

I have some time to get this done, so their is no real hurry. Even though I want do get this over-with.
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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 10:22 AM
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Yeah, after calculating everything and factoring in maintenance costs. an S class is too expensive at the current moment. We've decided on an M or a GLK. Maybe an S will be possible in a few years.
I owned a 07 ml350 andnd 03 e320 and traded them both in for what i now own which is a 2009 S550 and ill have to say go for the ml550 or even a 350. Much more reliable and has much more cargo space. I love my S550 but like others have said there are alot of hidden costs in owning one. And incurance aint cheap for the S. I bought it more for the bling bling factor and wasnt really thinking. I can fix cars so it hasnt costed me too much so far but in the long run even parts for these cars can run quite a bit.

On a side note i live in rochester and have done numerous repairs on the ML and have some DIY threads in the w164 forum. hit me up if you need help with repairs.

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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 07:12 PM
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I find it amusing that you guys are recommending an ML over an S. The ML has been making those "Worst to own" and "least reliable" lists for several years. And take a look at Consumer Reports for a history of them. It aint pretty.
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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 08:10 PM
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I find it amusing that you guys are recommending an ML over an S. The ML has been making those "Worst to own" and "least reliable" lists for several years. And take a look at Consumer Reports for a history of them. It aint pretty.
Agreed but the OP sounds like he wants a Benz. After having two kids I can say though that the ML would be far better than the S with kids, especially with car seats. Personally I would never own a Benz if I had to figure out a way to afford it. I had Honda's and Toyota's when my girls were younger because that is what I could afford and wanted ultra reliable, cheap, safe transportation. Now that they are teenagers and I have a few bucks, I figure what the hell, enjoy it. But I am the guy that could go out and pay cash for a new S whatever and I still purchased a low mileage S550 with an extended MB warranty for half the cost of new. My wife says I am a tightwad but I just cannot see spending over 100K on such a rapidly depreciating asset. My advise to anyone on cars and houses for that matter is, if you have to figure out a way to afford it, you are looking in the wrong neighborhood.
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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 10:28 PM
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I find it amusing that you guys are recommending an ML over an S. The ML has been making those "Worst to own" and "least reliable" lists for several years. And take a look at Consumer Reports for a history of them. It aint pretty.
We're probably doing him a favor. After buying a 100k car for 30k last thing he needs is to be stranded on the expressway in his flashy car with a newborn in blistering cold buffalo weather only to be handed a 4500 dollar bill to have a air strut replaced to ruin the holiday. As for ml's being unreliable certain past years had failures but the newer models have a much better rating. And more cargo room to stow away stroller etc. Just makes more sense than getting an S. I'd suggest a 2010+

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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jaworks3d
Back to square one, I just redid all calculations and factored in all income vs. expenses we would have to pay for an S Class. Turns out we could do it, but just barely. Plus other expenses like if she were to back into something or damage any other part.

However the numbers are significantly lower for the M Class, the only thing that would be higher is fuel, but everything else being lower compensates for that drawback.

Another thing is that Buffalo winters suck, an ML550 w/ 4Matic will be far more superior in the snow than an S550 with 4Matic. Good point Mike5215.

Unfortunately there's a catch. if we buy an M, we will have 3 cars. our condo's owner only allows 2 cars. So that means I'll have to let my Jag go, that's not going to be easy for me to do but if I have to, family needs come before toys.
Similar to Mike, hate to be a buzzkill...

...go buy a new Honda -- at this point in your life/situation you'd be fool to max yourself out and buy a used MB...

...in fact, go buy a nice used Honda for $10k or $15k and save the rest...

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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 12:22 AM
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Agreed but the OP sounds like he wants a Benz. After having two kids I can say though that the ML would be far better than the S with kids, especially with car seats. Personally I would never own a Benz if I had to figure out a way to afford it. I had Honda's and Toyota's when my girls were younger because that is what I could afford and wanted ultra reliable, cheap, safe transportation. Now that they are teenagers and I have a few bucks, I figure what the hell, enjoy it. But I am the guy that could go out and pay cash for a new S whatever and I still purchased a low mileage S550 with an extended MB warranty for half the cost of new. My wife says I am a tightwad but I just cannot see spending over 100K on such a rapidly depreciating asset. My advise to anyone on cars and houses for that matter is, if you have to figure out a way to afford it, you are looking in the wrong neighborhood.
Exactly...
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NaslundStarmine
Similar to Mike, hate to be a buzzkill...

...go buy a new Honda -- at this point in your life/situation you'd be fool to max yourself out and buy a used MB...

...in fact, go buy a nice used Honda for $10k or $15k and save the rest...

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Originally Posted by NaslundStarmine
Similar to Mike, hate to be a buzzkill...

...go buy a new Honda -- at this point in your life/situation you'd be fool to max yourself out and buy a used MB...

...in fact, go buy a nice used Honda for $10k or $15k and save the rest...
I was kinda thinking the same thing. A minivan actually makes the most sense for a growing family. And if you insist on AWD, you can go with a Toyota Sienna. Otherwise, a Honda Pilot would be a good choice if you want a SUV.
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