When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
Nah, I think I was wrong. I'm pretty sure that's where I got that number. Wishful thinking, especially since the current car starts at $52k. Dang.
The current E-class is a crappy deal if it starts at $52k since it's such a piece of sh*t. If the new car starts at the same price, it's going to look like a great bargain compared to the outgoing model.
The current E-class is a crappy deal if it starts at $52k since it's such a piece of sh*t.
Come on Dave it's not that bad. I will give you that the materials don't measure up to Mercedes standards with the wood fading and seats splitting but it's actually a pretty solid car. I know you have said that my W211 was better but in some ways it wasn't. The suspension on it rode well in all but a couple of circumstances (for those it royally sucked) but it didn't handle very well. The W212 feels much more solid than my pre facelift W211 felt. My sister has a 2013 sport E350 4matic and it is a very nice car.
I'm in your home state...it's 78 degrees and it's almost 1am...love it.
It's really abnormal. Usually we get six to eight weeks of highs in the 60s, lows in the 50s, and several hard freezes before things start warming up in March. (Where I am, north of Orlando.)
I'm hoping the trend doesn't carry into summer, with endless 100+ degree days and 90% humidity.
Not sure yet :-) ...I'm down in Miami right now looking at cars because my wife missed her flight to Orlando because of the thousands of people going through security so she is flying in to Tampa this evening as it as the only available flight here today between West Plam Beach, FLL and MCO...sucks but oh well...gives me plenty of time to car browse.
Ok.....so I know you guys are going to flame me....it's 'merican...lol...but holy heck fast...the front end lifts up from a dead stop when you floor and it literally feels like a plane taking off...very nice bose sound system, push button start, keyless entry, and heads up display with touchscreen nav, Z51 package, etc.
I'm just here wondering how you afford this very expensive hobby and still have so much time to spend here on the forum. Apparently I'm in the wrong business.
I'm just here wondering how you afford this very expensive hobby and still have so much time to spend here on the forum. Apparently I'm in the wrong business.
Somehow, I just knew you'd be the first one to reply lol.
Work is only mon-fri...well, for most people I think...so I am on here during those times and here and there after work and weekends.
I'm on vacation down here in florida so I am on here from my handy dandy phone...sitting at the tampa airport waiting for my wife. :-)
I'm just here wondering how you afford this very expensive hobby and still have so much time to spend here on the forum. Apparently I'm in the wrong business.
Well it helps if, for your nine to five, Monday thru Friday, your job title is "Head Meth Cook". So the Z51 is supposed to be very cool but claustrophobic.
The Mustang GT350 with the flat plane crankshaft VooDoo V8 is probably better and more livable. I've seen a couple of comparisons and the Ford always takes it.
Yup...it's a vette Z51! Small inside...it's not an S...but it's comfortable and rides surprisingly nice...It's a good weekend car...already beat up on a few mustangs who wouldn't leave me alone. The electronic dual exhaust is pretty slick too.
I'm actually really surprised my wife likes it...she doesnt LOVE it but she said "it's nice" and do I like it and am I buying any more cars, I told her nope.
I had a 2005 GTO that shipped new with the Vette 6.0 Liter 400hp LS2 and a manual 6 speed. I loved that thing. Build quality was iffy on some stuff, although the GM division that built it, Holden in Australia, had a better reputation by far than GM North America. Then again I bought one brand new for $28k, so it still holds a special place. I killed so many Mustangs in that thing I designed a T Shirt to mock them.
I was just reading C&D's long term Vette test, and wow it did not go well. It threw a rod or something and grenaded the engine with like 15k miles on the odo. Then there was a laundry list of build quality issues. Look it up, it was pretty bad, and those guys LOVE Vettes.
25 years ago I purchased an '85 Vette with the Z51 suspension. I put less than 1000 miles on it and got rid of it. After several visits to the chiropractor and purchasing a Lexus LS400, my back finally recovered from that brutal ride. I have to assume that they made them ride more civilized in the later models.
That era Vette rode like a cement truck. And the clutch was heavy as hell. Too primitive. I think the new version with the magnetic ride control is better but nothing about that car is good for your back.
Speaking of which, after recovering from the surgical site pain, some moron tapped the rear bumper of the S at a light and now my back is acting up again.
What a pillock (the moron who tapped Mike's car hence alleviates his sore )
Ford GT is coming bad guys , not to mention that car was a Ferrari beater during Le Mans
Ok.....so I know you guys are going to flame me....it's 'merican...lol...but holy heck fast...the front end lifts up from a dead stop when you floor and it literally feels like a plane taking off...very nice bose sound system, push button start, keyless entry, and heads up display with touchscreen nav, Z51 package, etc.
Grill away........
Not at all. I had a "new" 1992 6-speed vette, a new 1999 Camaro Z28 Convertible, a new "leftover" 6 speed 2004 GTO that they nearly just gave away to me ($18,600).
I still troll around looking at Corvettes, 911s, Boxsters, M Roadsters, S2000s..
The new Camaro is sort of interesting. I did a track day ( really only 2 laps) as a Cadillac promotion
and drove an ATS-V 460 hp V6 on the NJ Motorsports park road course. I thought it was really nice but had the typical GM cost cutting on the interior. The amount of mechanical grip at the track was exceptional. It was also really quick. I could have agitated for the new Z06 based CTS-V but the smaller car looked like it would be more fun.
The new Camaro uses the same platform as the ATS but has the 455hp V8. I know Mike mentioned the Shelby, which is better overall and has the flat crank V8.
I really like that too but it seems you would spend over $60k once you finish with options especially for the R model. Right now there's dealer markups for those. They're a bit low on torque and you need to rev it out to access the power.
I drove a new 6 speed manual Mustang GT as part of a $50 gift card test drive. It was, unlike the GM cars, pretty nicely trimmed out, it had some sort of anniversary package. I found it a bit dull to drive, it had good power if you revved it out, but I tried to take it easy since it was not a dedicated demonstrator. I don't think it had the performance package. The steering felt kind of numb to me.
I think owners really like the new Vette. They have problems but they are great drivers. Enjoy the car, it should be fun. What year vette did you buy?
Nice. Huracán?
A good friend of mine had an S2000. I drove it a few times. I liked it but the handling and steering was just ok. I suspect his cheapo all season tires were part of the problem.
Not at all. I had a "new" 1992 6-speed vette, a new 1999 Camaro Z28 Convertible, a new "leftover" 6 speed 2004 GTO that they nearly just gave away to me ($18,600).
I still troll around looking at Corvettes, 911s, Boxsters, M Roadsters, S2000s..
The new Camaro is sort of interesting. I did a track day ( really only 2 laps) as a Cadillac promotion
and drove an ATS-V 460 hp V6 on the NJ Motorsports park road course. I thought it was really nice but had the typical GM cost cutting on the interior. The amount of mechanical grip at the track was exceptional. It was also really quick. I could have agitated for the new Z06 based CTS-V but the smaller car looked like it would be more fun.
The new Camaro uses the same platform as the ATS but has the 455hp V8. I know Mike mentioned the Shelby, which is better overall and has the flat crank V8.
I really like that too but it seems you would spend over $60k once you finish with options especially for the R model. Right now there's dealer markups for those. They're a bit low on torque and you need to rev it out to access the power.
I drove a new 6 speed manual Mustang GT as part of a $50 gift card test drive. It was, unlike the GM cars, pretty nicely trimmed out, it had some sort of anniversary package. I found it a bit dull to drive, it had good power if you revved it out, but I tried to take it easy since it was not a dedicated demonstrator. I don't think it had the performance package. The steering felt kind of numb to me.
I think owners really like the new Vette. They have problems but they are great drivers. Enjoy the car, it should be fun. What year vette did you buy?
On the Shelby I'd be okay with the $60k because the car looks like a riot. I went on a Mustang forum to see what those guys were paying...um, nothing, because the Ford dealers were adding 100% to the MSRP since they were limited allotments. Look on AutoTrader. They're asking $100k-$120k. Hilarious.
The 'R' model is tough to find. But a quick check shows the GT350 with the tech package available for MSRP (about $57k). Sample car is at Dorsch Ford Kia in Green Bay WI and shows as "in stock".
The 'R' model is tough to find. But a quick check shows the GT350 with the tech package available for MSRP (about $57k). Sample car is at Dorsch Ford Kia in Green Bay WI and shows as "in stock".
Yeah, eventually they have to come down. 5000 units isn't a rare car number, But when was the last time you saw a new S Coupe listed for double MSRP?
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.
(the moron who tapped Mike's car hence alleviates his sore )
