Mike5215

My cost, $240 for an A service. CPO picked up the rest. Heavy labor $ on the cam magnet thing, plus a new cluster, and a new strut. Still not done, bad dimmer control on displays is coming from Germany. Probably another $500 or so there. At 84k with 11 months/120000 miles of coverage remaining.

So far they've paid for an AC controller, a starter, a cam position sensor, a leaking engine seal, the $6k today, and two tows, plus around 20 days in loaner cars.

DaveW68

The CPO warranty turned out to be a bargain. And since you've had all of these items repaired, the next owner should be looking at a more reliable vehicle.

Mike5215

You'd think. That was my rational for keeping the 220 after warranty.., they'd already gone through everything that was likely to fail. Nope. The S Class bag of repair horrors is very, very deep,

Glad for the CPO coverage though. $6k at Christmas time sucks whether or not you can afford it.

DaveW68

The 221 is a different animal than the 220. Even though there is a lot more tech in the 221, they seem to have a better repair history. I'm sure you can attest to that.

MrRat

Was it related to this ( it includes M273 cam magnets )?
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen....30-08i-2-.pdf

Whatever the case, it's a better user experience to have the CPO coverage, rather than be financially responsible for complex system failures in an aging $100,000 vehicle. There is still another year left and plenty of potentially expensive things to replace.

MrRat

In my case, I'm enjoying a nice honeymoon period. I may get lucky, but the tendency is to get lulled into a false sense of security and then bail out after a major repair or two.
Just from reading the posts, the W221 seems better in terms of repair frequency but still tragic from the mode, frequency, scope and cost of failures.

Atcpup

Sounds like you'll be looking for a new ride soon.

Mike5215

Not sure if there's a ton of daylight between the 220, especially the late 04-06 cars and the 221 in terms of reliability. By 100,000 miles the 220 had $13k in CPO repairs. I'll have to see how the 221 fairs. It will likely need three more struts before it's over.

KNBS550

You mean they only replaced one strut and not the opposite strut as well? Don't they recommend replacing both if one side goes out?

Mike5215

Not unless the other strut had failed either mechanically (leaking fluid) or pneumatically, like the opposite side. They don't replace preemptively. The car drives normally on the new and old strut.

MrRat

Almost time for your 2012 CPO S63 with B&O audio or the short & plump but fun loving C450 AMG.

Mike5215

I think I may have one up on the B&O audio with the Focal & Audison upgrade. I don't want another 221 really, especially with MB making all these interesting new cars. I have a feeling I'm going to really like the new E. If the chassis is anything like the C (and I think the E is on the same modular chassis as the C) it's my #1 contender.

BenzV12

You could buy a Rolex GMT MASTER II BLNR for that money but great to see you don't pay for these bills .

You don't recommend potential owners to buy CPO for nothing given these repairs your recommendations are worth On the other hand, I still find W221s reliable , any part in such a high end class cars can go wrong regardless of how old they are . The point is frequency of the repairs ,this is what I inspect .
Mercedes-Benz models topped the stats according to TUV records but none of them were S Class though

Nuru

The new E is also in my wheel house of consideration, the new features are the key. But those features also come on the W222's too.

Mike5215

Being later in its development cycle the new E got some stuff the 222 didn't get (yet...maybe with the mid cycle face lift). More ambient light modes, first ever swipeable pads on the steering wheel, three different dash/infotainment "skins" for the displays, extra hot stone massage modes in the seats. It also gets a new middle tier of interior trim choices between Standard and Designo, featuring new materials and colors that the 222 currently doesn't have.

If it handles anything like the W205 C Class, especially in the steering, and looks more like a 222 than the 205 does it would be my first choice. Pricing is supposed to start around $42k, lower than the current E and just a tick above the $38k base C300. Looking forward to January 11th.

Nuru

Yep, thought it seems the W222 will get those newer features before the next facelift, so so I have been told? LOL!

Nuru

My 2012 E-class was a good car, but my current car is a great car. However, the upcoming E-class is attractive to me because of the features and the lower cost. It also comes in a diesel too. Add a Pano roof, folding rear seats, and all those features at a lower price and that could make me jump back to a W21x series. But the wife wants a GL before I make a move on another car.

Jason B

The C class can be optioned with Airmatic. I've heard it rides incredible with it. So, that means you'd want an E with Airmatic.

Mike5215

Probably. I need the wiggle room to run larger wheels without stiffening the ride too much.

wilassasin

Sounds good I guess, but even though I have warranty and extended warranty I hope to never have to use either.

Mike5215

Well this is interesting. I was thinking C300 Sport only because I could add AirMatic, but the C450 has three stage electronically variable struts. I need to take a C450 out.

Mike5215

Back in the shop. Another "Check Engine" light. Drove a C450. Uh oh...

MBNUT1

Where did you get the pricing info?

Mike5215

Not sure. I've read a ton of stuff but I believe it was one of the major auto mags online.

MBNUT1

I think you may have misread this article:

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/mercede...-ar163629.html

"Our favorite of this class is the Audi A6. Prices start from an even lower $42,200"

Would like to be wrong on this.