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From July 2014:
The Toyota luxury brand’s flagship sedan was down 19.7% through May, while the Mercedes-Benz S-Class was up 81.8%, leading the segment.
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From July 2014:
The Toyota luxury brand’s flagship sedan was down 19.7% through May, while the Mercedes-Benz S-Class was up 81.8%, leading the segment.
One major issue with this stat. This is when the NEW S-CLASS CAME OUT. Obviously you will have a big rise in purchases when you go from a model that has been out since 2007 to a brand new one, vs. lexus' refresh in 2013.
I would have thought this would have been fairly obvious.
Originally Posted by MonroeHandyMan
Here we go again with another close minded fool who does not respect an opinion different from their own. You can message me anytime and we can meet in person if you want to continue with your insults. See how tough you are with your mouth then! Otherwise keep your insults to yourself! Your playing with the wrong one!
I have owned many luxury cars, most being German and you do feel as if you become a part of the car as you can feel what is going on. The car communicates with you through the steering for the mindless idiot above who is clueless. This makes the car more inspiring to drive, again for the idiot above. Lexus lacks this feel. Steering in my opinion is numb and not very responsive, feels like a Camry. And I dont know where you got those figures from because here in NY, Lexus is a dying breed.
closed minded? fool? You opened your mouth and stuck your foot right in it. I've had an s-class and never a lexus, but yet I'm defending them.
As for your tough guy, lets fight in person ****, grow up...for the sake of your children.
The whole point of the luxury cars is to be isolated from the outside world. Why do I want steering feel in a 5000lb boat? Its not like its a sports car or has any sporting pretensions. I want a smooth, quiet, and isolated ride, just like most other buyers. P.s., if you want steering feel, go get in an air cooled 911 without power steering. Thats steering feel. The s-class...please.
Really, The S550 went to electric steering in 2010, and wiped out most of the steering feel.
Also, despite my feeding the anti-Lexus LS opinion, Lexus sells plenty of cars overall, and if you don't mind a mechanically reliable, somewhat dull, reasonably nice luxury Toyota, with all the good and bad that goes with that, then enjoy that.
I do understand the attraction and it drifts into areas of personal taste.
I don't understand getting angry about it, or personal attacks and posturing. it's an Internet forum about aging S-class Mercedes, which now starts at $8,000. Owning this car or a similar Lexus LS does not mean anything more than you own a used luxury car.
I've had 4 Lexus LS models in the past. My most recent was an '08 LS460. I currently have an '07 S600 with every feature available in any luxury car at the time, including ABC. The Lexus was quieter than my S600. It kept out wind and road noise better than my 600, which is very heavily insulated. My 600 likely handles better than an S550 without ABC, but it is still a huge car and handles like one. My 600 handling probably isn't much better than my last Lexus other than its ability to stay flat in the turns without much body roll due to the ABC suspension. Neither my 600 or LS460 had much steering feel. Both cars feel very similar behind the wheel, except in the power department where no luxury Lexus model can compare to the power and especially torque in the 600. The LS460 and S550 (pre 2012) have very similar power and performance numbers.
lets be clear, I haven't threatened anyone about anything.
Learn how to speak to people as an adult without insults and you will not have anyone breathing down your throat! Your insults were uncalled for and you got called out! Learn how to speak like a gentleman and keep your insults to yourself. I am from N.Y.C. born and raised, not as you referred. You have no clue what you are speaking about. Learn to respect others opinions without the insults and this is not the first time. You have a pattern of disrespecting members on here. You got what you deserved! Keep trying me...
Learn how to speak to people as an adult without insults and you will not have anyone breathing down your throat! Your insults were uncalled for and you got called out! Learn how to speak like a gentleman and keep your insults to yourself. I am from N.Y.C. born and raised, not as you referred. You have no clue what you are speaking about. Learn to respect others opinions without the insults and this is not the first time. You have a pattern of disrespecting members on here. You got what you deserved! Keep trying me...
no one is breathing down my throat. Lol, I was not called out. You were called out for making statements with no basis in fact...such as "lexus is dying out".
you may be from NYC, but your views on the current landscape of the luxury car marketplace seem to be based on Monroe, NY. hardly a meca for luxury vehicles.
I would argue that you also received what you deserved.
no one is breathing down my throat. Lol, I was not called out. You were called out for making statements with no basis in fact...such as "lexus is dying out".
you may be from NYC, but your views on the current landscape of the luxury car marketplace seem to be based on Monroe, NY. hardly a meca for luxury vehicles.
I would argue that you also received what you deserved.
Let it go pal, your showing everyone your true colors. You want to insult someone for no reason as you did and then you want to try and legitimize your disrespect?
Understand something...Your entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. The difference is, I do not start off with INSULTS toward any member here as YOU did, unless I am provoked. Learn from this, learn that while you may be in the internet realm, you are addressing (and in your case) disrespecting REAL people and when you do you will be CALLED OUT!
**Thanks to the members who messaged me seeing my point on this persons blatant disregard for respecting other members and in regards to me, "Putting him in his place", your very welcome.**
Everybody cool down. Staff does not need to receive report to moderator notices when those very same reporters behave in the same fashion as what they are reporting. If this continues expected favoritism will not happen and the same corrections will be applied.
Act like adults and not like children expecting special favorite treatment.
03-17-2016, 09:32 PM
Lol, I was not called out. You were called out for making statements with no basis in fact...such as "lexus is dying out". 
