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Old 02-22-2017, 09:07 PM
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Engine Misfires, Lights and 87 Gas

Would 87 gas cause engine misfires and the engine light to come on?
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No. You will just observe reduced engine output due to retarded timing (to avoid detonations under engine load). However, bad gas can cause misfires that if bad enough will light up the check engine light
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No. You will just observe reduced engine output due to retarded timing (to avoid detonations under engine load). However, bad gas can cause misfires that if bad enough will light up the check engine light
MB has had the car for two months and they were able to replicate the issue of misfiring at start.

MB said they found a gasket that was installed backwards -- by the secondary air pump on the left side of engine.

thinks it's causing misfires as it's blocking air.

thoughts?
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secondary air pump is used only to speed up cat light up. it stops working after about 90 seconds on a cold start.

if your misfires are only in the beginning then the dealer's theory is a plausible one. if you are getting misfires after the first 90 seconds - the air injection pump is not the culprit.
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Originally Posted by alx
secondary air pump is used only to speed up cat light up. it stops working after about 90 seconds on a cold start.

if your misfires are only in the beginning then the dealer's theory is a plausible one. if you are getting misfires after the first 90 seconds - the air injection pump is not the culprit.
It's possible if the valve is stuck open that the downstream O2 sensor is reading a/f mix and sending an incorrect reading to the computer causing an incorrect mix and a misfire. I would sincerely doubt it though, the amount of air being pumped in by SAIR is not much compared to the engine's exhaust.
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Originally Posted by GPrime2
It's possible if the valve is stuck open that the downstream O2 sensor is reading a/f mix and sending an incorrect reading to the computer causing an incorrect mix and a misfire. I would sincerely doubt it though, the amount of air being pumped in by SAIR is not much compared to the engine's exhaust.
It has been confirmed the misfiring problem was solved with fixing a warped manifold and broken lever and further fixing the backwards installed gasket by the secondary air pump.

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