2008 S550 A.C. recharge procedure
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From: Stuart, Fl
2008 S550
2008 S550 A.C. recharge procedure
Hey guys I've gotten myself into a bit of a pickle. I replaced my radiator this weekend which required discharging the AC system and removing the evaporator as well.....Not an easy job. Anyway I have everything put back together, evacuated the AC system, recharged it slowly with a static amount of r134a but cannot get the compressor to come on. I've never had this problem with any of my other Mercedes....athough they were older models. The indicator on the air conditioning cluster reads "AC OFF" and when you go in the menu screen to try to turn it on, it reverts right back to off. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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From: Aridzona
'15 S550, '10 E350 P1/P2, '02 ML320
Hey guys I've gotten myself into a bit of a pickle. I replaced my radiator this weekend which required discharging the AC system and removing the evaporator as well.....Not an easy job. Anyway I have everything put back together, evacuated the AC system, recharged it slowly with a static amount of r134a but cannot get the compressor to come on. I've never had this problem with any of my other Mercedes....athough they were older models. The indicator on the air conditioning cluster reads "AC OFF" and when you go in the menu screen to try to turn it on, it reverts right back to off. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
- Firstly, the evaporator is in the air handler box under the dash, I believe you are talking about the condenser, yes?
- Did you plug the electric fan back in? Without airflow across the condenser, the heat transfer will not be sufficient and it will prevent the Climate control from functioning (disabled due to fan failure.)
- Hoping you have a set of manifold gauges connected so you can see what the high/low side pressures are doing -- not the actual values per se, just how they are behaving relative to each other.
Also would be helpful if you could fill out your user profile so we know what mode/year/location when we're talking about your car.
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Thanks for the reply. Sorry, I did mean the condenser. Yes, new to this forum, but I did put 2008 S550 in the title. I will check the fan plug again, but I'm certain it is plugged in correctly. Yes I have a vac pump, gauges and a 30lb cylinder of r134a. Been doing most all my own service work on these cars for nearly 35 years and have never had an issue like this. I called my connection at the dealer and he told me it has to come to the shop and be reset....no other way around it. I just can' believe It! I have 2 vintage Ferraris, this S550, Wife has BMW 535i, Son has BMW 325i, daughter has ML 320...I have done significant ac work on all of them with my eyes closed and have never had this type of problem. I guess it's off to the dealer tomorrow. Will post what they do. Appreciate the help.....I will check that plug tomorrow morning however.
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From: Aridzona
'15 S550, '10 E350 P1/P2, '02 ML320
Thanks for the reply. Sorry, I did mean the condenser. Yes, new to this forum, but I did put 2008 S550 in the title. I will check the fan plug again, but I'm certain it is plugged in correctly. Yes I have a vac pump, gauges and a 30lb cylinder of r134a. Been doing most all my own service work on these cars for nearly 35 years and have never had an issue like this. I called my connection at the dealer and he told me it has to come to the shop and be reset....no other way around it. I just can' believe It! I have 2 vintage Ferraris, this S550, Wife has BMW 535i, Son has BMW 325i, daughter has ML 320...I have done significant ac work on all of them with my eyes closed and have never had this type of problem. I guess it's off to the dealer tomorrow. Will post what they do. Appreciate the help.....I will check that plug tomorrow morning however.
I figured out the fan connector trick on my recent compressor replacement. Having known that others needed to connect to the Star Diagnostics following A/C repair to get things working again, that's what I did. Only to find that Star wanted me to reconnect the connection to the fan. Oddly enough I didn't need to 'reset' anything, just identify the fan was unplugged and plug it in. Once I did that it sucked in refrigerant like my beagles clean the floor of the kitchen!
If you're in the S550 for a while, investing in the Star system is well worth the money.
You wouldn't have the photos of the Ferrari's to share would you?! Always great to see amazing cars.
Good luck sorting it out!
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Clear your air conditioning codes with a snap on computer
Hey guys I've gotten myself into a bit of a pickle. I replaced my radiator this weekend which required discharging the AC system and removing the evaporator as well.....Not an easy job. Anyway I have everything put back together, evacuated the AC system, recharged it slowly with a static amount of r134a but cannot get the compressor to come on. I've never had this problem with any of my other Mercedes....athough they were older models. The indicator on the air conditioning cluster reads "AC OFF" and when you go in the menu screen to try to turn it on, it reverts right back to off. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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W221-S500-2006, W123-250-1978, W126-500-1983
W221-S500 (aka S 550) AC Refrigerant Volume
Hello everyone, I am intending to doing a deep dive into this, saving me from potential ripoffs. Hope everyone can relate to the feeling and help me with the following.
1. How much volume of R134a would my system take.
2. Can anyone provide schematics of the AC System (w/s Manual).
3. Where do leaks usually occur.
4. How to detect leaks in the system.
5. How to stop leaks in the system.
Thanking everyone for any input.
1. How much volume of R134a would my system take.
2. Can anyone provide schematics of the AC System (w/s Manual).
3. Where do leaks usually occur.
4. How to detect leaks in the system.
5. How to stop leaks in the system.
Thanking everyone for any input.
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its on a label on the car under the bonnet - depends if you have rear AC or not
its around 900g without rear ac and 1300g with rear ac
the condenser rots out - under the bonnet, look with a torch - around the edges for dark / dirty / dusty / oily areas if u see it, its gone
the law says must empty and recover the gas, pull a vacuum for 10 mins and if Ok can refill
you stop leaks by regularly using the car, 20 mins AC use every 2 weeks as a bare minimum - more = better -
NEVER turn off AC ever (its just like a domestic fridge at home) constant use will last 30 years (except cars get salt over the aluminium condenser and flexi-hoses to leak - so its not going to do 30 without a service now and then)
its around 900g without rear ac and 1300g with rear ac
the condenser rots out - under the bonnet, look with a torch - around the edges for dark / dirty / dusty / oily areas if u see it, its gone
the law says must empty and recover the gas, pull a vacuum for 10 mins and if Ok can refill
you stop leaks by regularly using the car, 20 mins AC use every 2 weeks as a bare minimum - more = better -
NEVER turn off AC ever (its just like a domestic fridge at home) constant use will last 30 years (except cars get salt over the aluminium condenser and flexi-hoses to leak - so its not going to do 30 without a service now and then)
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Currently I drive: 2007 S550, 2009 ML350 and 2004 CLK320.
I had the same issue, I changed a leaking hose with one from the dealer, charge the system yet the air conditioning would not function until a snap on computer was able to go into the air conditioning system and erase the fault codes that said ow refrigerant. After that on the dashboard the AC off was toggled on and the compressor and fan kicked on. A bit of more information 2 lb and 4 oz was pressurized in the system from the high side, red hose
The sticker on my 2007 S550 says 2.36 lbs., which is 37.76 oz. Should I worry about filling 1.76 oz. less than it is required?
2. Also, you said that you fed it into the high side. I'm about to perform this for the first time in my life. And after watching a number of Youtube videos I'm under impression that the refrigerant needs to me added into the vacuumed system through the low pressure side. With engine running and AC set at the Max Cool. Now I'm puzzled. @everyONEelse
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1. 2 lbs. + 2 oz. = 36 oz. or 3 cans of refrigerant, right?
The sticker on my 2007 S550 says 2.36 lbs., which is 37.76 oz. Should I worry about filling 1.76 oz. less than it is required?
2. Also, you said that you fed it into the high side. I'm about to perform this for the first time in my life. And after watching a number of Youtube videos I'm under impression that the refrigerant needs to me added into the vacuumed system through the low pressure side. With engine running and AC set at the Max Cool. Now I'm puzzled. @everyONEelse
The sticker on my 2007 S550 says 2.36 lbs., which is 37.76 oz. Should I worry about filling 1.76 oz. less than it is required?
2. Also, you said that you fed it into the high side. I'm about to perform this for the first time in my life. And after watching a number of Youtube videos I'm under impression that the refrigerant needs to me added into the vacuumed system through the low pressure side. With engine running and AC set at the Max Cool. Now I'm puzzled. @everyONEelse
To go by the sticker weight, you first need to vacuum the system empty of anything in the system and then charge it by the weight shown in the sticker. But, the right way is after you fill it to check with pressure gauges on both sides where you need to se the correct pressures about 32-35 psi on the low side and about 195-200 psi on the high side.
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Currently I drive: 2007 S550, 2009 ML350 and 2004 CLK320.
Don't even think about connecting the refrigerant can in the high-pressure side! Do it only on low-pressure side!!!!
To go by the sticker weight, you first need to vacuum the system empty of anything in the system and then charge it by the weight shown in the sticker. But, the right way is after you fill it to check with pressure gauges on both sides where you need to se the correct pressures about 32-35 psi on the low side and about 195-200 psi on the high side.
To go by the sticker weight, you first need to vacuum the system empty of anything in the system and then charge it by the weight shown in the sticker. But, the right way is after you fill it to check with pressure gauges on both sides where you need to se the correct pressures about 32-35 psi on the low side and about 195-200 psi on the high side.
Also I stopped by AutoZone and got puzzled with what variation of the refrigerant to pick. For R-134a they have regular, with Stop Leak, and with UV dye. Which one is recommended? @everyONEelse
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2007 S550 4Matic 2013 S550 Base
Do I run the engine and max AC as I fill it with the refrigerant? Maybe there is a WIS manual available somewhere? I couldn't find it...
Also I stopped by AutoZone and got puzzled with what variation of the refrigerant to pick. For R-134a they have regular, with Stop Leak, and with UV dye. Which one is recommended? @everyONEelse
Also I stopped by AutoZone and got puzzled with what variation of the refrigerant to pick. For R-134a they have regular, with Stop Leak, and with UV dye. Which one is recommended? @everyONEelse
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And stop leak is for trying to seal leaks if your system is leaking. UV dye is for troubleshooting. It shows where the leak is under UV light.
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