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Promising long-term fix for NTG 3.0 Date/Time Issues.

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Old 12-24-2021, 06:20 PM
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Wow, just did the clock fix following the instructions posted here...worked like a charm. BTW, I only had a CD-RW disc, and that worked fine despite some warnings here that it would not.
It will work with any media that the laser successfully reads including DVD-R/RW, and CD-R/RW. Glad it worked for you. It was an annoyance for me for too long so I had to do something, and knew it was likely bothering others, too.
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The second version can have software VIM enabled, but not sure about the early third version.
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Hi, another UK owner here who has successfully applied to update - I now have a working clock and the correct date/time showing on my 2007 CL63.

Very pleased and thanks to Polar Bear for the fix - it was driving me nuts that I couldn't set the time and that the analogue clock was stuck 11 minutes faster than the real time!

My local MB dealer, who I've got a great relationship with, was unaware of the problem or the fix so I'll pass on the details to them, just in case they ever need them!

I've got one more COMAND issue to deal with and I'll be happy, but that's a question for another thread!!
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Hi

Originally Posted by Polar Bear
There is a promising fix for the NTG 3.0 Date/Time issue being tested restoring 100% functionality.

https://youtu.be/t15WX_WPcr8
hi.
can you heplp me to download the file?
i can’t download it
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Originally Posted by Erjonhasani
hi.
can you heplp me to download the file?
i can’t download it
Let me help you: point your mouse to the download link and left click!

Seriously, you don't have to read the whole forum through but should read the whole thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...ml#post8468441
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see
post 137 for the original file including instructions
post 264 for a small mod so it supports two missing comand units from mid 2007 (one USA region and one European region)
Old 01-26-2022, 03:26 AM
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Hey guys, quick question just yo avoid wasting anyone's time.
Does that fix (with the CD and software update) applies to a Japanese specs mercedes as well or not?
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unlikely - they use different hardware (if you pull out a Jap spec comand its got a million more sockets and wires) - I suspect its some trade barrier protectionist policies regarding electronics - they have their own country junk in there

its so complex and different its often much safer NOT to buy Jap market foreign brand cars - the other thing in Euroland, a manu must by law provide support, servicing, and spares for 7 years from manufacture - Jap domestic market is 3 years - so small batteries, no rust proofing and nasty interior toys all allowed.

no idea if Merc delete kit, but one would expect their accountants to be right on it - and in any case the bumpers and boot lids are so disgusting that's justification for staying well away....
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It's a CL550 2007, it was a relatively good deal (for around 10k USD with milage lf around 88,000 KM), and to be honest things are going fine so far, in terms of maintenance and parts I didn't face any issues as it's the same as the non japanese ones.
For the rust, the car is clean so far, given the humid weather in here (in Dubai, UAE).
My main issue resides with the comand and missing the navigation and having a 5+ hours clock lol, and for the radio my friend has a garage and managed to fix it to a good extent to have the normal radio frequency.

Though, I totally agree that there are many stuff that can be done or updated in the European or US comands, but, well I can replace mine for 400 bucks but having navigation is not really worth it given that we depend now on google maps and stuff, unless I'm installing an aftermarket system with android auto or something.

I guess I shifted a bit from the main conversation lol.

Btw, I didn't get the the last part of your msg about the bumber and boot.
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I think someone posted can you get these android headunits working ... it must be doable (and the W221 fitment has been round an age (long thread on here for them)

many Japanese spec cars get ODD cut out for the reg plate and they look nasty







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Originally Posted by Polar Bear
The GPS code is updated from 4.22 which was compiled in 2005 to 4.23, which was compiled this year. The media is an ISO that has the certificate signature to allow the COMAND to accept it as authentic, and can be invoked without Xentry. I am doing this in an effort to help the W221 owners community and not for profit or sale. I will write provide instructions as well as a source for the file to update your COMAND.

This has nothing to do with Daimler AG, MBUSA, or Harmon Becker and they are NOT liable if you damage your COMAND and is done at your own risk. It has no warranty either expressed or implied.
Hi,

Does this still work ?
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Worked great for me a few months ago.
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Originally Posted by BOTUS
see
post 137 for the original file including instructions
post 264 for a small mod so it supports two missing comand units from mid 2007 (one USA region and one European region)
see these
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Good afternoon all,

I have had PolarBear’s file for some time now and am ready to go with the fix, however, try as I might I simply
can NOT get my car into Engineering / Update mode.

It is a 2013 S500/550. Produced for the Japanese market and now being used by me as a DD in Abu Dhabi.
The car is perfect and ideal for the high speeds on the freeways here.

The only bug which screws with my OCD, is the dashboard clock being on “Japanese” GPS time…

Any ideas on how to get into / find “engineer mode” please……..

Thank you.
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a 2013 car has a different system - is your date actually incorrect ?

the disc was built for ECE / USA cars from 2006 to 2009 using the NTG3.0 comand unit
between 2010 to 2012 facelift cars used NTG3.5 comand unit (and no one ever said it needs the clock fix - but I should think it does - and no one ever said this disc is suitable )
a 2013 car should be an W222 later vehicle model
Japanese cars are special with totally different entertainment systems and lots of strange wiring - check Australia sites some claim success and far more likely to get these odd import vehicles than USA or Europe





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Thanks for the tip BOTUS. will look up some Japanese and Aussie forums as well.

date and time is no longer visible in my Command. Time is sourced from untraceable GPS info and so analogue click is locked to Japan time.

given the problem is across many continents, I am hoping the POLARBEAR fix will help.

it is just working out how to get into engineering mode.
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the Polar Bear cd fix is a global fix - but your car is a hybrid of Japanese domestic market protectionist trade laws mandating all the electronics inside are local sourced odd ***** - these cars are an utter nightmare to work on as a result

the bug u have is related to the same issue (dates inside satellites roll around in a mad 19 year cycle - and then reset to year 0 - your car is muddled after April 2019 and the start of a new cycle) you could open the boot and disconnect the earth strap to the right of the spare wheel at 30 seconds before mid day and reconnect at 11:59 and 45 seconds - the analogue clock should then cycle to midday in 15 seconds and for 18 months it will be correct and slowly go a few mins adrift over the never few years

of course if it meets enough new satellites it might think for an hour it know what's happening before loosing the plot again
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Thank you BOTUS, you are wealth of knowledge and information I was not even aware of, regarding the Japanese laws....

ALSO, great idea about disconecting the earth strap. I will try it tomorrow and see what happens.....

Thank you
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make sure the car is not running !
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:10 PM
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the great BenzNinja found a rare Comand update disc - its file folder structure is NOT that of any European or USA Comand unit we are aware of - in comms he then had a great idea that maybe this is the Japan domestic market Comand update disc....

what I had noticed aside from it was more like units from other non 221 models, is the clock vespucci folder contains the very same out of date file that Polar Bear and his chums had rewritten.

NOTE: for those brave enough to try and make a Jap update disc - I have unsuccessfully tried to add various updates into the European Comand update CD (aka the clock fix file, later Radio update and indeed a facelift DAB tuner that works but Merc never realised is fully compatible), I can't understand / replicate their security hash (so can't make the one for my disc) nor can I compress to the same file size. The car is clever enough to throw its teddies and refuse to do anything...
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I noted a few weeks ago, the W221 clock sorted itself out funnily. I looked and the clock seemed to be exactly 1 hour behind. I went into the clock settings sytem, put the correct time in and... Eureka, the clock hands MOVED to the correct time!!!!! Yaaay!!! My brother had the same problem on his W221 so I called him and same thing - his miraculously had sorted itself out as well!!!! I would suggest anyone who couldn't use BOTUS's update, just check your car and see if its fixed - you never know... Maybe Mercedes finally did something right!? just need to get my sound back now - sod's law the sound went this week!! Could be Amplifier or Command unit, not sure.
Good Luck all...
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it can't sort itself out - it can if unusually lucky for 30 mins come across a later satellite not sending lies - the change came after the vast majority of older satellites moved round in their usual 19 year date cycle the car no longer understands - the only way it can understand the data from all the satellites is to patch the car

can everyone please not offend those in the know posting utter rubbish

e.g. if I turn it on in and underground car park, re set with xentry and other such rubbish about waving a magic wand and or outright lying

Just put the software patch on the car so it works the same as it did when they made it in the factory


if the second disc on post 264 doesn't load the patch - please post your actual comand part number here
When you print the Merc diagnostic info the MB number for my unit is 2218201426 and you can find it in the list of units supported by the update software.
This number as printed in diagnostics software report says Serial Number (which is crap as its not unique).
But you can easily find the data you need in the ENG menus anyway.
NOTE : Your displayed MB 221870xxxx number in certain ENG menus, is not the real MB Number you need, even though it stupidly displays saying it is.
The bottom number in this menu on your car (see the picture) is the one to check in the CD's update list of Units supported


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BOTUS - I agree you maybe a complete genius and myself a complete ignoramus with respect to how Mercs work (I've even complimented and thanked you in the past for your work). But that is no excuse to be insulting towards those that are simply sharing their experience & trying to help. I tried to use your update on a CD but unfortunately My CD player is not working/reading discs and the update will not work from the Memory card reader. I had thus given up on having a working clock in my car. So whether it was complete luck that an old satellite flew overhead and said "Hi" to my car or Aliens came down and "zapped" my car, the fact is that my car's clock is now working for several weeks and so is another W221 owned by my brother which had the same problem. I was simply sharing this experience on here in the hope that others might be lucky enough to have Alien friends and be in the same fortunate position. Anyway, I bow my head to your superior knowledge on W221's but not to your civility or humility...
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the instructions are clear - the NTG3.0 Comand can only take software updates from a CD in the CD drive, and Map updates from DVD Map update discs in the same drive

disconnect the battery and see what the cars date is after reconnecting it - if its 2003 then the car needs an updated vespucci file - regardless of what the clock is doing

the reason I get excitable is so many people are offering conflicting advice its leading to delays or people failing to update their cars as they aren't sure what to do - and my post 296 may give an insight on how to resolve for cars with the confused Japanese head unit

the later satellite info for 30 mins is real - you should get the date correct too - but an hour later it will be on 2003

please go in the engineering mode, find this menu and note down the last number on the bottom right (as per this picture) and lets see if the files is designed to work on your car - a number of people have got nowhere because the disc wasn't set up to work with all the different Comand units Merc used




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