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Promising long-term fix for NTG 3.0 Date/Time Issues.

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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 06:50 AM
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Updated - Fix is released for NTG 3.0 Date/Time Issues.

There is a promising fix for the NTG 3.0 Date/Time issue being tested restoring 100% functionality.


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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 09:28 AM
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Nice. What hardware will be required for that fix?

I still am baffled by even the presence of the date field, let alone why anyone would care what date the car thinks it is... but hey, if it's fixed, it's fixed.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 11:17 AM
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What's the exact update? Has anyone looked at the firmware and modded the problematic parts of it?
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 01:37 PM
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Just want to say thank you, I'm in awe of this.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 08:06 PM
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The GPS code is updated from 4.22 which was compiled in 2005 to 4.23, which was compiled this year. The media is an ISO that has the certificate signature to allow the COMAND to accept it as authentic, and can be invoked without Xentry. I am doing this in an effort to help the W221 owners community and not for profit or sale. I will write provide instructions as well as a source for the file to update your COMAND.

This has nothing to do with Daimler AG, MBUSA, or Harmon Becker and they are NOT liable if you damage your COMAND and is done at your own risk. It has no warranty either expressed or implied.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 08:11 PM
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Nice. What hardware will be required for that fix?

I still am baffled by even the presence of the date field, let alone why anyone would care what date the car thinks it is... but hey, if it's fixed, it's fixed.
A CD writer, blank CD, and PC/Macintosh running an OS with software capable of running an application to write an ISO image to a CD-R or CD-RW.

The Date is important to calculate the service days for ASSYST and how long the vehicle has been in registration.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear
The GPS code is updated from 4.22 which was compiled in 2005 to 4.23, which was compiled this year. The media is an ISO that has the certificate signature to allow the COMAND to accept it as authentic, and can be invoked without Xentry. I am doing this in an effort to help the W221 owners community and not for profit or sale. I will write provide instructions as well as a source for the file to update your COMAND.

This has nothing to do with Daimler AG, MBUSA, or Harmon Becker and they are NOT liable if you damage your COMAND and is done at your own risk. It has no warranty either expressed or implied.
Excellent. Glad the work panned out. Looking forward to installing it.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 09:50 PM
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I'm looking forward to it as well.
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear
A CD writer, blank CD, and PC/Macintosh running an OS with software capable of running an application to write an ISO image to a CD-R or CD-RW.

The Date is important to calculate the service days for ASSYST and how long the vehicle has been in registration.
Possibly so. Mine seems to have no trouble keeping track of days since service or other time periods, but I'll take your word for it. Regardless... if you've come up with a fix for that nagging GPS software bug, you're a hero. Well done.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 07:48 AM
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Im going to burn the disc and try on my car , just need to visit my friends to burn the iso since my new laptop dont have a burner , im really looking forward to have it fixed
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Im going to burn the disc and try on my car , just need to visit my friends to burn the iso since my new laptop dont have a burner , im really looking forward to have it fixed

Yes - it is nice to finally have it functioning as intended. I would recommend running an MD5 against whatever file you have you insure you have a non-corrupt download, as if it was corrupt, it could damage your device.

Do you have the MD5 value?
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 09:58 AM
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Here is a link to the update and instructions for use in a .ZIP file to update your COMAND NTG 3.0 to fix the ongoing date/time issue and setting of the analog clock.

This is my contribution to the W221 community and is the work of several people to get the NTG 3.0 clock and date bug fixed again.

Good luck!

https://resources.mbdx.us/files/tele...E_TIME_FIX.zip

If you decide to install this fix, I would be interested in hearing the outcome. I am hoping for 100%!

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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear
Here is a link to the update and instructions for use in a .ZIP file to update your COMAND NTG 3.0 to fix the ongoing date/time issue and setting of the analog clock.

This is my contribution to the W221 community and is the work of several people to get the NTG 3.0 clock and date bug fixed again.

Good luck!

https://resources.mbdx.us/files/tele...E_TIME_FIX.zip
thanks very much i Tried my file i Got on MHH but it says error and not Correct , i Will try you file
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:01 PM
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Thanks, anyone have issues with extracting the zip file?
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:04 PM
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Thanks, anyone have issues with extracting the zip file?
It was compressed using 7-zip. If you are using a different decompression application, perhaps try it:

7-zip.org

It is open source.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:08 PM
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Yeah, that did it. As soon as I wrote my post I thought "should try 7 zip" which I already have. In short, built in win10 stuff won't do it but no big deal.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:20 PM
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Yeah, that did it. As soon as I wrote my post I thought "should try 7 zip" which I already have. In short, built in win10 stuff won't do it but no big deal.
Thank you for pointing that out. I used LZMA compression scheme, which I also just tested using the default OS X deflating software, and it wasn't a fan of that compression scheme either. I think that since there may be many users utilizing their default decompression software built into their OS, I will recompress it using a more universal algorithm using the same name.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:22 PM
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No worries, I'm more concerned how I'm going to play twister with my fingers. Egads.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:45 PM
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No worries, I'm more concerned how I'm going to play twister with my fingers. Egads.

It's not too bad - I can do it easily on one attempt with my thumb, index finger, ring finger, and pinky now. LOL

I re-upped the file using a more compatible compression algorithm for others that may encounter the issue you did. Please try again if you don't mind with the Windows 10 extractor.

The default OS X unarchive utility works.
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Extract works fine now on Windows 10.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 01:12 PM
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Extract works fine now on Windows 10.
Great. The new MD5 is 0af86d38ca5dc04f5d87ea20fcaae2f6 for the file.
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Thank you for doing this. Can you by any chance enable VIM on NTG3 / NTG3.5 with firmware update as well?
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Success!

Follow the instructions, view the youtube. Now you have an operable clock.

Thank you thank you.

Only took me two tries to get the engineering menu (yes, rotating the knob a nudge did me in the first time.)

And it was a stressful minute when updating, but once done the unit boots up basically instantly and it's like "Hey, I can set the clock again." Little things in life.

Again thank you.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 01:57 PM
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Success!

Follow the instructions, view the youtube. Now you have an operable clock.

Thank you thank you.

Only took me two tries to get the engineering menu (yes, rotating the knob a nudge did me in the first time.)

And it was a stressful minute when updating, but once done the unit boots up basically instantly and it's like "Hey, I can set the clock again." Little things in life.

Again thank you.
Excellent! So glad to hear!

Maybe it would help other owners if you also commented on the video for those that stumble upon it a different way?
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I'll spread the gospel.

Wish I could send a fruit basket or something.
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