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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 06:03 PM
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It's called an MMI connector or Multi Media Interface. I'm using the CHOOCL gadget that plugs into that connector and provides bluetooth audio streaming and will display track information from an Android Phone's music player app, Spotify or Podbean.
I am using a Bovee WMA 1000 but mine doesn't give you the track info. I have an Android. Maybe I should switch to the one that you use...
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Originally Posted by doni01
I am using a Bovee WMA 1000 but mine doesn't give you the track info. I have an Android. Maybe I should switch to the one that you use...

connected to what ?

I have the old merc Ipod interface that does nothing with the comand screen on the NTG3.0 older head unit - but toggle the cluster across and you get all the on screen gibberish via Bluetooth even streaming radio stations using a viseeo WMA 1000 (same device old company name....

this was some apple free junk can pre loaded on the phone





iPod interface 2, viseeo tune2air, apple 6S on iOS 13.41 - not bad for local radio station 6000 miles away without a wire







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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by doni01
I am using a Bovee WMA 1000 but mine doesn't give you the track info. I have an Android. Maybe I should switch to the one that you use...
If you're using AUX you definitely won't get track information, just sound. If you're using Multi Media Interface, you should get track information from iOS or Android.
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Originally Posted by EasyPhil
It's called an MMI connector or Multi Media Interface. I'm using the CHOOCL gadget that plugs into that connector and provides bluetooth audio streaming and will display track information from an Android Phone's music player app, Spotify or Podbean.
Can you share which one you have? I went to Amazon to look for one but I'm not finding one for 2012 W221.
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 01:27 AM
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I already replaced the rear struts as part of troubleshooting the car’s “side step” at rear that was not the strut issue at all. Now I have emergency spare struts…

The front struts had been replaced already. Noticed this as the brackets for the wiring were missing and had to order those from the dealer.

That low pressure pump is actually two pumps due to the “saddle” tank design?

The high pressure pumps I actually replaced on my previous car as one of them started making very bad rattle against the cam shaft. Did not know which one so I replaced both. Then thought if it could have been a problem with a lifter… so I know this job too…

How big of a job is the water pump?
It totally took 3.5 hours to replace the whole unit as well as belt , pulleys and coolant . The mechanic said it was easy to make adjustment for the the belt's tightness as it automatically tightens itself up . You know, neither too loose nor too tight is good for the belt .There's a couple of metal hoses along with the rubber ones . Good news, he also said that BMW was using thinner rubber parts in the coolant system whereas Mercedes-Benz using thicker almost 4 times as thin as BMW's .
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 07:09 AM
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It totally took 3.5 hours to replace the whole unit as well as belt , pulleys and coolant . The mechanic said it was easy to make adjustment for the the belt's tightness as it automatically tightens itself up . You know, neither too loose nor too tight is good for the belt .There's a couple of metal hoses along with the rubber ones . Good news, he also said that BMW was using thinner rubber parts in the coolant system whereas Mercedes-Benz using thicker almost 4 times as thin as BMW's .
Did some search and souds like 3.5h for the pump change is very fast as the fan has to come out too.

But a water pump should not be something that leaves me stranded. It should start giving problems first before gas to be changed so I’ll leave it for now.
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 09:40 AM
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Can you share which one you have? I went to Amazon to look for one but I'm not finding one for 2012 W221.
This one:
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 02:01 PM
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that chooxl thing is another rip of the viseeo tune2air
That may be true, but it works great! For $75 it's money well spent.

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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyPhil
If you're using AUX you definitely won't get track information, just sound. If you're using Multi Media Interface, you should get track information from iOS or Android.
Hey Phil, I am using AUX so I guess that is my issue.
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connected to what ?

I have the old merc Ipod interface that does nothing with the comand screen on the NTG3.0 older head unit - but toggle the cluster across and you get all the on screen gibberish via Bluetooth even streaming radio stations using a viseeo WMA 1000 (same device old company name....

this was some apple free junk can pre loaded on the phone





iPod interface 2, viseeo tune2air, apple 6S on iOS 13.41 - not bad for local radio station 6000 miles away without a wire

Botus,

I am connected to the connector in the glove box and using a Samsung Galaxy phone via Bluetooth.
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by doni01
Hey Phil, I am using AUX so I guess that is my issue.
Yes, AUX will just give you sound. Multi Media Interface will give you sound plus track information. When I got my 2013 2 weeks ago it had a device that allowed my Android phone o connect via bluetooth and playback was via AUX, which is why I got the one I mentioned because it will display track information from your music player, spotify, podbean, etc.

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Originally Posted by EasyPhil
Yes, AUX will just give you sound. Multi Media Interface will give you sound plus track information. When I got my 2013 2 weeks ago it had a device that allowed my Android phone o connect via bluetooth and playback was via AUX, which is why I got the one I mentioned because it will display track information from your music player, spotify, podbean, etc.
Thank you! I will try the Multi Media and see if my device will show any info.
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Originally Posted by EasyPhil
Yes, AUX will just give you sound. Multi Media Interface will give you sound plus track information. When I got my 2013 2 weeks ago it had a device that allowed my Android phone o connect via bluetooth and playback was via AUX, which is why I got the one I mentioned because it will display track information from your music player, spotify, podbean, etc.
Ordered the CHOOCL for my car. Hopefully it5 is the correct one.

It is so strange from Mercedes, I have a 2010 E550 (two years older car) that has Bluetooth for audio playing and it shows what you are listening and then this two years younger S550 has no audio Bluetooth option at all...
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by doni01
Thank you! I will try the Multi Media and see if my device will show any info.
The device I'm using only shows up as Multi Media and AUX is grayed out. The other device prior to that I believe had AUX with Multi Media grayed out.
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Old Jan 14, 2026 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Arrie
Ordered the CHOOCL for my car. Hopefully it5 is the correct one.

It is so strange from Mercedes, I have a 2010 E550 (two years older car) that has Bluetooth for audio playing and it shows what you are listening and then this two years younger S550 has no audio Bluetooth option at all...

coz the system on the w221 was a simple update of nothing, to a wired something by sept 2009

I had a 335d with all the toys including active cruise - (of which only 3 BMWs in the country at the time had it), and that only had the cost option of USB input for model year 2008

BT streaming wasn't really common until a few years later - and Merc are one of the slowest to catch up - DAB wasn't std on theirs till 8 years after BMW made it std equipment in europe


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COMAND NTG4 (NTG4-W204 and NTG4-W212)

Comand NTG4 first made its appearance in the W204 C class at launch around 2007. It was the first Mercedes system to support a fully integrated iPod / USB system called the Media Interface, and Bluetooth telephony within the head unit. It also has an integrated Hard Disk for the Sat Nav map, and music, and a PCMCIA slot for adding music files.

It is also the system used in the Mercedes SLS, and was the system supplied in the W212 E class and W207 E class and W218 CLS class Mercedes Benz vehicles, in which a 6" 480x240 resolution screen was used. The screen in the W204 is a 5" less resolution screen.

In the W204 the COMAND screen electrically folds up and down, in other vehicles it is fixed.

Its main weaknesses are (a) 5 Digit post-code support not 7 digit. (b) The Bluetooth phone system will not transfer the address book from most phones, and so you need the optional Comfort Phone system and a phone cradle or bluetooth adapter (c) PCMCIA and not USB or SDcard.

NTG4 has been replaced by NTG4.5 in W204/W207/W218/W212 and it is possible to replace the system in the W207/W218/W212 certainly for Model Year 2010 onward vehicles.

It is not possible to do this in the W204 because the whole dashboard changes.

The map updates etc are different for the W204 version (NTG4-W204) to the W212/W207 (NTG4-W212) systems.

It is somewhat like a cost reduced NTG3 system.

- it is MOST bus based

- the display is physically separate

- it has a PCMCIA slot where you can plug in a PCMCIA device (or another with an adapter) full of MP3 music

- The map is held on an internal Hard disk, again updated from DVD

- It has a separate rotary controller like the NTG3.

- It has bluetooth telephone support built in, but its not particularly good at downloading the address book properly without the extra comfort-phone option.

- It supports the Media Interface - an optional interface to connect iPod (with Video support), USB, or a 3.5mm aux input. (This is Mercedes option code 518)

- I believe it is made by Mitsubishi.




COMAND Online NTG4.5 and NTG4.7

Comand NTG4.5 was the 'main-stream' Comand system until 2015/2016 and the first to be known as Comand Online because it can connect to Mercedes Benz online internet services via certain bluetooth mobile phones.

It has a fixed 7" colour display with 800x480 pixel display.

It first became available in late 2011 with the facelfit W204 C class, and the W212 E, W207 E and W212 CLS classes along with the R172 SLK.

Mercedes Benz rolled this COMAND system into all the standard (i.e not S/CL) vehicles and including the W176 A class W246 B class, W166 ML, R172 SLK, R231 SL, W204 C (from MY2012), W212/W207 E (from 2011 in Europe) and the MY2015 G Class update

The maps are stored on a hard disk, and although the map update DVD is available cheaply, a PIN code is needed which can be bought from Mercedes Benz Dealers

The system supports (optionally) the Media Interface (fully integrated iPod kit), integrated dual-tuner DAB digital radio, Harmon Kardon (option 810) and B&O (option 811) depending on which model series it is integrated in. It also supports Digital TV.

It supports 7 digit post codes, and downloadable applications allowing you to use facebook and other similar web sites on the COMAND screen.

The initial version of NTG4.5 had a brown colour scheme on the display, and this was replaced for Model Year 2013 with a grey colour scheme. All that changed was the software for this.

NTG4.7 is the internal name for the 2nd generation of NTG4.5 hardware which supports Bluetooth PAN which allows online access using an iPhone and has an extra USB on the back for live-traffic. The NTG4.7 hardware is different to the NTG4.5 hardware.

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The device I'm using only shows up as Multi Media and AUX is grayed out. The other device prior to that I believe had AUX with Multi Media grayed out.
Phil,
I checked it out today and I am connected via Multi Media but stil no info on the screen. Below is what I get...Maybe my unit is outdated? Also I have included a picture of the unit that I have. I am thinking about purchasing yours at this point.



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Old Jan 15, 2026 | 01:19 PM
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Try playing music from Spotify and see what appears on your display. If it has track information like title of song and author, your BoVee is fine. If not, get the one that I have.
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Timing chain covers, oil filter housing gasket, oil cooler gasket, turbo cooling lines, pulleys, drive belt, and front differential pinion seal (if 4 matic). Water pump? I have 100k miles on my w221. Still original.

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Ordered the CHOOCL for my car. Hopefully it5 is the correct one.

It is so strange from Mercedes, I have a 2010 E550 (two years older car) that has Bluetooth for audio playing and it shows what you are listening and then this two years younger S550 has no audio Bluetooth option at all...
The CHOOCL came in and installed in the glove box. The instructions only talk about Audi, no one word of Mercedes but the thing works. Info of the phone comes to car display and sound quality is very good.
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Originally Posted by Arrie
The CHOOCL came in and installed in the glove box. The instructions only talk about Audi, no one word of Mercedes but the thing works. Info of the phone comes to car display and sound quality is very good.
Thank you Ari for the update. If you don't mind me asking, what phone do you have and what app did you try it with? I am about to order one as well since my unit Bovee does not give me any info on the screen. I have an Android and have tried it with YouTube, SoundCloud and today I tried it with Spotify. Thanks.
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the bovee wma1000 has the old apple 30 pin connector - the bovee is designed to provide the info via bt as well as the sound....
its almost identical to the bovee mba3000 - so it maybe

the car doesn't understand the old apple idea (on the ntg3.5 cars) seems odd but possible
the device needs a firmware update - there were 3 during the viseeo's life time (as the bovee is the same product - but came later - and likely came with later FW)
aux never went to comand on older ntg3.0 cars (only the cluster if you had merc ipod interface option)
fake apple connectors are often missing features...


viseeo FW

WMA1000 V322 Fixed Kenwood player but need an adapter to convert the data
WMA1000 V323 solves no sound issue in Audi Dension Gateway 500 with Android phones.
WMA1000 V325 solves "can't play YouTube" issue.



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Thank you Ari for the update. If you don't mind me asking, what phone do you have and what app did you try it with? I am about to order one as well since my unit Bovee does not give me any info on the screen. I have an Android and have tried it with YouTube, SoundCloud and today I tried it with Spotify. Thanks.
I have iPhone 13. The app in my phone is called "Music" which I think is some Apple app that I do not use other than I had to buy one song to it to make some things in the phone work.

I use this mainly just to listen internet radio stations and Youtube. It does not display the artist in the radio station or Youtube but I can use the Next-Previous function of the Comand Knob. It does show the artist and title of the one song I have and I'm sure it would show all titles and info of all songs in the iPhone or iPad if I had those stored in it, but I don't do music on my phone.

Sound quality is very good, probably just a little better than the Monster adapter has that I used.
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I changed it on the 2013 S550 with the same engine without dropping the exhaust so I can do this also in this car. It is not the easiest job but doable and is a very critical sensor for the engine to run.

Yes, it is a simple sensor but they do go bad from heat (where I live) and definitely will get this replaced and I will use the part for MB dealer for it with the higher cost, but I need a reliable sensor.
Well,

Bought the crank sensor and then came to find out that 2012 S550 does not have any room between the secondary fire wall and the engine to get my hands to the sensor. The 2013 model had good room for the job but now it seems I have to do it from the bottom side. Big stupid job for the simple sensor replacement if indeed the exhaust has to be dropped.
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