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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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So the V8 option is there for you. But alot of buyers would get those cars with V6 power, especially older buyers.
unless there is a huge price reduction I don't think the majority of American buyers will go for it (gas is dirt cheap in the States compared to Europe or Canada), Canada is a different story we LOVE Diesels and V6 engines.
For example in the U.S the GL350 accounts for 20-30% of sale whereas in Canada is makes up 80-90% of the sales.

Something about a V6 in a S-class bothers me, I dont want the same engine they put into a $45,000 C-class in my $130,000+ S-class, I am all for fuel economy and I have had two Diesels back to back but the S-class is a different story. I can live with a smaller engine in my family hauler as the wife drives it and it would make no difference if it has 240 hp or 550hp but not in a S-class.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 09:57 PM
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Some awesome S-Class photos in that article linked. Those classics are gorgeous of course but to me the W126 is the pinnacle of more relatively modern S-Classes. That car has a soul. Bruno Sacco was on point with Mercedes design back in the day.













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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 03:11 AM
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unless there is a huge price reduction I don't think the majority of American buyers will go for it (gas is dirt cheap in the States compared to Europe or Canada), Canada is a different story we LOVE Diesels and V6 engines.
For example in the U.S the GL350 accounts for 20-30% of sale whereas in Canada is makes up 80-90% of the sales.

Something about a V6 in a S-class bothers me, I dont want the same engine they put into a $45,000 C-class in my $130,000+ S-class, I am all for fuel economy and I have had two Diesels back to back but the S-class is a different story. I can live with a smaller engine in my family hauler as the wife drives it and it would make no difference if it has 240 hp or 550hp but not in a S-class.
Agree with your point of view. I so wish they would make the V8 Diesel engine available. I was always hoping they would make it available for the GL, like Europe used to have. Audi still makes a V8 diesel which is available in their A8 if I'm not mistaken, but that is for Europe as well.
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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Twin turbo 335 HP twin turbo V6 coming to the S (I imagine its new entry level slotting below the V8, nobody buys the current hybrid), and the E (E550 goes away) as reported in this month's Automobile magazine. Some buyers might not opt for it, but MB is crazy to just give away an entire sales segment to Audi and BMW here that has lower cost offerings because they have a charged V6 available.

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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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The new Porsche Panarama diesel will have 300 hp vs the 240hp MB has now and most likely will make it to North America, MB will probably follow suit in couple years.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 06:24 AM
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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Love the new look, it's missing a couple of key features that truely make it an S-Class: wider fenders over the front and rear wheels like the W221, and the ability to seat 3 in the back. Looks like this would be the CL or CLS interior...

Other than that I love what they did with the detail and craftsmanship in the interior. Needs aluminum sport pedals as a factory option! Can't wait to see one later this year!
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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you will be able to fit three in the back seat here in the usa. unless you order one of the rear seat packages that will be offered. me thinks the majority of the cars imported into the usa will be the base backseat variant long wheel base which will allow for three people - just like the current 221 chassis.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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Love the new look, it's missing a couple of key features that truely make it an S-Class: wider fenders over the front and rear wheels like the W221!
I like the W221 but this car's looks have it all over the W211 particularly the elimination of the fender bulges.
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Latest Photos of the new S-Class, this time in white.

http://www.emercedesbenz.com/autos/m...ised-in-white/

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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 09:54 PM
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It may be a better car, but the exterior is so plain looking. The W221 was so distinctive.
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 09:59 PM
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I just think it looks so disjointed. I feel like M-B have a group of 20 designers who do things they think is "cool" in a singular context, and never even talk with one another to create one distinct holistic vibe. The facelift E-Class is the worst showing of this, and the S isn't much better, IMO.

Scribbly lines everywhere, no cohesion, just a bunch of random thoughts pieced together. M-B's design team has lost all harmony thus eliminating that minimalistic, clean and precise design idiom which made the brand so famous. Audi now does clean and minimalistic, which used to be M-B's trademark, and although I'm not an Audi fan, it's working wonders for them as they gain major inroads especially into the "youth" market that M-B so clearly desperately wants, yet goes about in such a detatched manner (and in a very panderingly way with brash design traits IMO usually reserved for Asian car manufacturers).
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 01:33 PM
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Latest Photos of the new S-Class, this time in white.

http://www.emercedesbenz.com/autos/m...ised-in-white/

Looks beautiful! I like it Ill take one in AMG Package please
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by K-A
I just think it looks so disjointed. I feel like M-B have a group of 20 designers who do things they think is "cool" in a singular context, and never even talk with one another to create one distinct holistic vibe. The facelift E-Class is the worst showing of this, and the S isn't much better, IMO.

Scribbly lines everywhere, no cohesion, just a bunch of random thoughts pieced together. M-B's design team has lost all harmony thus eliminating that minimalistic, clean and precise design idiom which made the brand so famous. Audi now does clean and minimalistic, which used to be M-B's trademark, and although I'm not an Audi fan, it's working wonders for them as they gain major inroads especially into the "youth" market that M-B so clearly desperately wants, yet goes about in such a detatched manner (and in a very panderingly way with brash design traits IMO usually reserved for Asian car manufacturers).
the facelifted E-class is much better than the car that came out in 2010, the S-class 2014 MY looks great but is more of a evolution than revolution, why mess with something that did great? Audi's all look the same in 2013-2014, the $30,000 A3 looks very similar to the $200,000 S8 W12, this is not my opinion only, quick search on you-tube will tell you the same thing.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Looks beautiful! I like it Ill take one in AMG Package please
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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The white car appears to be a short wheelbase. The LWB will have much more presence, although I may prefer the proportions of the short wheelbase. The SWB rear passenger door and window have a slope which evokes the Maybach 57, it is lost on the LWB.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cookstar
the facelifted E-class is much better than the car that came out in 2010, the S-class 2014 MY looks great but is more of a evolution than revolution, why mess with something that did great? Audi's all look the same in 2013-2014, the $30,000 A3 looks very similar to the $200,000 S8 W12, this is not my opinion only, quick search on you-tube will tell you the same thing.
I drove the facelfited E-Class and can tell you firsthand that fundamentally it's not much different than the pre-facelift. It is, however, still improved and further refined, which is expected. The interior carries the same IMO somewhat crude here and there materials, however adds a higher perceived quality and a slight bit of nicer materials to richen the ambiance up. The exterior, however, IMO is the opposite, as I feel it lacks refinement compared to the pre-facelift due to how disjoined it is via carrying 2 polar opposite design languages within one car (soft new bumpers/front which contrast the comparatively upright, boxy, super angular core of the car, as well as an awkward straight line right under the main character line which goes nowhere, due to being an "about-face" modification of the Ponton fender which they obviously deemed a mistake), which now simply doesn't make sense in the profile.

As for the W222, it certainly can grow on me, maybe a lot. I just hate the ill-matched dropping line on the side, which tries to ruin what could have been a very pure, simple and timeless design with little questions.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 08:56 AM
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I drove the facelfited E-Class and can tell you firsthand that fundamentally it's not much different than the pre-facelift. It is, however, still improved and further refined, which is expected. The interior carries the same IMO somewhat crude here and there materials, however adds a higher perceived quality and a slight bit of nicer materials to richen the ambiance up. The exterior, however, IMO is the opposite, as I feel it lacks refinement compared to the pre-facelift due to how disjoined it is via carrying 2 polar opposite design languages within one car (soft new bumpers/front which contrast the comparatively upright, boxy, super angular core of the car, as well as an awkward straight line right under the main character line which goes nowhere, due to being an "about-face" modification of the Ponton fender which they obviously deemed a mistake), which now simply doesn't make sense in the profile.

As for the W222, it certainly can grow on me, maybe a lot. I just hate the ill-matched dropping line on the side, which tries to ruin what could have been a very pure, simple and timeless design with little questions.
I agree with your comment about the front and back bumpers, its the same thing with the ML, the rear bumper does not look like it belongs there.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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the facelifted E-class is much better than the car that came out in 2010, the S-class 2014 MY looks great but is more of a evolution than revolution, why mess with something that did great? Audi's all look the same in 2013-2014, the $30,000 A3 looks very similar to the $200,000 S8 W12, this is not my opinion only, quick search on you-tube will tell you the same thing.
Couldn't agree more. In term of outside look, the 2014 E W212 class looks like a mess, especially the AMG version (look). It looks very disconnected.

Not that impressed with the outside look of the new W222 either. Look pretty weak.

Plenty of review & magazines have commented on how the CLS and SL are not as beautiful as the previous ones, so look like there's a trend here ?
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 11:56 PM
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thats quite interesting, I have never in my life seen 3 people in the back of the S-class.
Did it many times ... kids ... nights out with friends ... when the parents visit. Of course this experience lead me to get rid of the S55 and purchase a CL63 and an R63 ... ;-)
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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I also agree that most of MB's recent exterior designs are looking awful. The CLS has grown on me, and the GL looks alright. But aside from that everything else looks terrible.
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I also agree that most of MB's recent exterior designs are looking awful. The CLS has grown on me, and the GL looks alright. But aside from that everything else looks terrible.
The SL is taking some time to getting used to. It's a much better car than the old one but the R230 just looked pretty from any angle.

That said, I was surprised to see how "aged" the 2003-2008 front fascia looked when parked next to the new one.

The new S-Class does look better than the current one from any angle IMO. Can't wait to see the AMG
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