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Old 12-11-2013, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by torontowino
I cant see buying new. The depreciation is pretty steep. I will likely buy a 15 month old car with between 6 and 10k on the odometer. Anybody want to predict market value?
It would be cheaper to drive the car X years if you buy it Y months old. But I would hate the feeling through out the X years how someone else had been driving the car before myself without me having any control, how it has been misused when the owner knows he/she will abandon it in Y months time anyway.

I prefer to keep the car longer to make the depreciation per year lower rather than buy frequently a relatively new used car.
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
It would be cheaper to drive the car X years if you buy it Y months old. But I would hate the feeling through out the X years how someone else had been driving the car before myself without me having any control, how it has been misused when the owner knows he/she will abandon it in Y months time anyway.

I prefer to keep the car longer to make the depreciation per year lower rather than buy frequently a relatively new used car.




Agreed.
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It really depends on your relationship with the dealer. If you are a first time customer you shouldn't expect much off until production catches up with initial demand. Most dealers that have long term customers will give some level of discount to them.
That's actually a common misconception. You will not get better discounts by building a relationship with one dealer. For every dealer that will give an awesome discount to a loyal customer there's another that will do the same or better to build a new relationship. Plus once you build a relationship with a dealer and they know you will be buying all your cars from them, do you think they'll continue to shave every possible penny of profit from themselves knowing that you are not going anywhere else? Every time I buy a new car, I canvas all local dealers and price compare. And I make them all know that I am price shopping. Sometimes I get the best deal from the same dealer I got my previous one from and sometimes I get it from a place I've never done business with. It doesn't matter if I've bought 10 cars from one dealer, the very next car I look to purchase is always a free for all all out brawl to get my business from all possible dealers. With the advent of the internet, it takes almost no extra time to get bids from everywhere rather than one specific dealership. This is the only way to get the best possible deal on each and every car you buy. If one goes to the same dealership for every car he buys simply because he likes that establishment and wants to continue giving them his business, then that's perfectly fine. But don't think that that will always yield the best deal for a car.
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Originally Posted by torontowino
I cant see buying new. The depreciation is pretty steep. I will likely buy a 15 month old car with between 6 and 10k on the odometer. Anybody want to predict market value?
Seriously, why bother chiming in with your off-topic 2 cents like the members on here don't understand the concept of depreciation. Some ppl buy used, some buy used, and yet more others do both. So what?

Someone can come in here and brag that they can get 3 brand new compact cars for you used CLS. Or 10 used $6,700 Hondas or 67 $1,000 beaters etc, and that it's stupid for anyone to buy a $67k car.

Guess what genius, we all know that these cars are a huge waste of money and we all know how the depreciation game works.
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A lot of hostility in here. Yet another reason I barely ever visit.
People try and blame that on me, which this thread proves is clearly not the case as I haven't been here in a long time. Just lots of sour characters in this board who like to point the finger/blame at others. Another reason I went away from M-B.
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People try and blame that on me, which this thread proves is clearly not the case as I haven't been here in a long time. Just lots of sour characters in this board who like to point the finger/blame at others. Another reason I went away from M-B.
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brad --- love, love, LOVE that pix you posted of your audi and benzo. nothing against the audi - and it may be the angle of the photoshoot - but your new 14 s looks so - oh, i don't know - majestic! compared to the audi; it just oozes elegance. love it! yay for you!
Thank ya!

i still have yet to take some actual pictures of it together with the Audi with my professional camera.

I'll get to it, hopefully before the W223 comes out!
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Originally Posted by brabus benz
That's actually a common misconception. You will not get better discounts by building a relationship with one dealer. For every dealer that will give an awesome discount to a loyal customer there's another that will do the same or better to build a new relationship. Plus once you build a relationship with a dealer and they know you will be buying all your cars from them, do you think they'll continue to shave every possible penny of profit from themselves knowing that you are not going anywhere else? Every time I buy a new car, I canvas all local dealers and price compare. And I make them all know that I am price shopping. Sometimes I get the best deal from the same dealer I got my previous one from and sometimes I get it from a place I've never done business with. It doesn't matter if I've bought 10 cars from one dealer, the very next car I look to purchase is always a free for all all out brawl to get my business from all possible dealers. With the advent of the internet, it takes almost no extra time to get bids from everywhere rather than one specific dealership. This is the only way to get the best possible deal on each and every car you buy. If one goes to the same dealership for every car he buys simply because he likes that establishment and wants to continue giving them his business, then that's perfectly fine. But don't think that that will always yield the best deal for a car.
My experience is consistent with what I previously said. I have been loyal to my dealer and they have always given me a much better deal than what I would get at another dealer or what someone would get as a first time purchaser. As an example this summer I got my ordered GL63 at $5,000 off MSRP. For those who know the GL63 market will appreciate that was a special deal at the time. We are talking about a car that is in short supply. You can't walk into a new dealer, cut the line and get a big discount.
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Originally Posted by Tomshop
My experience is consistent with what I previously said. I have been loyal to my dealer and they have always given me a much better deal than what I would get at another dealer or what someone would get as a first time purchaser. As an example this summer I got my ordered GL63 at $5,000 off MSRP. For those who know the GL63 market will appreciate that was a special deal at the time. We are talking about a car that is in short supply. You can't walk into a new dealer, cut the line and get a big discount.
Please explain why the market for GL63 will appreciate.
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Please explain why the market for GL63 will appreciate.
I didn't say it would. Of course the car will depreciate. Meant people will appreciate that $5K off an ordered GL63 this last summer was a special deal.

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