How to turn off ECO start/stop
#51
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There is no “Mercedes-Benz” way. There are third party solutions, but there is no way I would allow a non-factory authorized dealer to modify the electronics in my car, especially while it is under factory warranty. For me, it’s depress the brake pedal, hit the start button, hit the ECO button, toggle to the “Curve” setting, select the gear................and away we FINALLY go!
#52
You know, this seems like a job for a 555 timer and a monostable flip-flop.
When the car gets keyed on, the flip-flop is initialized to 0V,
after 5 seconds, the MSFF transitions to 5V and activates the ES-stop button,
after 1 second the MSFF transitions back to 0V for the rest of the trip.
I used to build stuff like this for $5 and a trip to Radio Crap.
Getting access to the ES-button would be harder than everything else involved.
The car would simply think the driver had hit the ES button, no change to any firmware.
When the car gets keyed on, the flip-flop is initialized to 0V,
after 5 seconds, the MSFF transitions to 5V and activates the ES-stop button,
after 1 second the MSFF transitions back to 0V for the rest of the trip.
I used to build stuff like this for $5 and a trip to Radio Crap.
Getting access to the ES-button would be harder than everything else involved.
The car would simply think the driver had hit the ES button, no change to any firmware.
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#53
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I'M a dealer for MID CITY and has sold a slew of these! It's a simple install and won't void you warranty and the dealer can't even see that's it's on there when plugged in. Many in FL deal with a lot of heat and high temps and they love this!
#54
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There is no “Mercedes-Benz” way. There are third party solutions, but there is no way I would allow a non-factory authorized dealer to modify the electronics in my car, especially while it is under factory warranty. For me, it’s depress the brake pedal, hit the start button, hit the ECO button, toggle to the “Curve” setting, select the gear................and away we FINALLY go!
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#56
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Lol, and that’s why a product exists because you’re gonna forget and get annoyed. Like a crying baby when you hold it and as soon as you stop it cries again. Same annoyance. Lol.
I just don’t like manufactures making decisions for me that I can’t cbange. But that’s where the aftermarket comes in to benefit us.
I just don’t like manufactures making decisions for me that I can’t cbange. But that’s where the aftermarket comes in to benefit us.
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#60
there is also this option:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ca...53.m1438.l2649
Turns off the eco start when you hit the button, and the system remembers your selection. if off it stays off until you hit the button again... if you turn it on it stays on until you turn it on again.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ca...53.m1438.l2649
Turns off the eco start when you hit the button, and the system remembers your selection. if off it stays off until you hit the button again... if you turn it on it stays on until you turn it on again.
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there is also this option:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ca...53.m1438.l2649
Turns off the eco start when you hit the button, and the system remembers your selection. if off it stays off until you hit the button again... if you turn it on it stays on until you turn it on again.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ca...53.m1438.l2649
Turns off the eco start when you hit the button, and the system remembers your selection. if off it stays off until you hit the button again... if you turn it on it stays on until you turn it on again.
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#62
Ah, gee, I don’t think that little widget is made by or approved by Mercedes-Benz, and I would not put my factory warranty in jeopardy, by installing that little gizmo, just to save me pushing one button after start up. IF the factory authorized dealer would install it, then I’d be good to go.
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#65
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-cars-ECO-start-stop-OFF-just-an-OBD-plug-most-of-MB-cars-supported/252811119026?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid =p2060353.m1438.l2649
it says it doesn't work on MY18 facelift version....darn!
it says it doesn't work on MY18 facelift version....darn!
You can do the uninstall when the car is in for service, and i usually do that. I forgot it this time, and the tech did not mention it. And he was diagnosing for engine/transmission problem, so he probably looked hard.
Last edited by Carfan500; 09-03-2018 at 05:21 PM.
#66
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And you have to have a V8 to get the Magic Body Control, and not on the S63AMG. I think you can get it on the S65, but that is not practical for me.
Magic Body Control is Awesome, and the curve function is the big surprise in my car, its great! Every car should have this.
I dont need 4matic, and i dont think many NEED it. Winter tires is more important. I drive on snow and ice in the winter and proper tires is the key. But of course there will be some steep hills you cannot drive up. Should you?
Magic Body Control is Awesome, and the curve function is the big surprise in my car, its great! Every car should have this.
I dont need 4matic, and i dont think many NEED it. Winter tires is more important. I drive on snow and ice in the winter and proper tires is the key. But of course there will be some steep hills you cannot drive up. Should you?
Last edited by Carfan500; 09-03-2018 at 05:29 PM.
#67
look at the systems in the cars as a sealed computer that only has logs for the techs to look at. they can access features and turn stuff off and on but MB doesn't want them to have the ability to dig too deep. when they get stumped they reflash the system.... not really trouble shooting much anymore.
#68
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#69
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If any of you find it annoying to have to disable Eco mode every time you get into the vehicle, we make a solution to this issue. It is programmed to shut off Eco mode every time you start the vehicle, but the Eco function can be turned on and resumed at any time. Lots of satisfied customers. Check it out!
8 Second Demo Video Here!
PURCHASE YOURS HERE!
Also, be sure to use coupon code MBWSEP10 at checkout for 10% off your purchase made in the month of September 2018!
Compatibility
ECO205
C Class sedan 2015-2018
C Class coupe 2016-2018
GLC 2015-2018
E Class 2017-2018
ECO212
C Class sedan 2012-2014
C Class coupe 2012-2015
CLA 2015-2018
CLS 2013-2018
E Class 2012-2016
G Wagon 2014-2018
GLK 2012-2015
GL 2012-2016
GLE 2016-2018
GLS 2016-2018
GLA 2015-2018
ML 2012-2015
Metris 2016-2018
SL 2013-2018
SLK 2012-2016
ECO222
S Class 2014-2018
GT S 2014-2018
ECO221
S Class 2012-2013
CL 2012-2013
8 Second Demo Video Here!
PURCHASE YOURS HERE!
Also, be sure to use coupon code MBWSEP10 at checkout for 10% off your purchase made in the month of September 2018!
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ECO205
C Class sedan 2015-2018
C Class coupe 2016-2018
GLC 2015-2018
E Class 2017-2018
ECO212
C Class sedan 2012-2014
C Class coupe 2012-2015
CLA 2015-2018
CLS 2013-2018
E Class 2012-2016
G Wagon 2014-2018
GLK 2012-2015
GL 2012-2016
GLE 2016-2018
GLS 2016-2018
GLA 2015-2018
ML 2012-2015
Metris 2016-2018
SL 2013-2018
SLK 2012-2016
ECO222
S Class 2014-2018
GT S 2014-2018
ECO221
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CL 2012-2013
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#70
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#71
I know this is an old thread, but I didn't want to create a new one. Has anyone gotten one of these aftermarket devices to disable the eco start-stop? It's probably the thing I like the least about this car
#72
Senior Member
It is possible to code the Eco Start/Stop, the parameter setting is in the Motor Engine module. The options (maybe car dependent), are something like enable, disable, and Last Setting. It requires coding using the Vediamo/Caesar program that can edit directly into MB modules. The problem getting into the ME module is that it requires a seed-key (password) to actually write changes. I wasn't able to do this myself without help from a friend who had the seed key generator. Anyway, mine now remembers my last setting, so if I turn it Off, it says Off until I enable it again - a much better option.
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#73
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This has been discussed so many times. It is not about what MB can do or cannot do but about the approved emissions levels. The owner of the car either pays more or needs to push the Eco button to turn it off, as simple as that. MB just took the more ecological choice.
#74
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Good to hear. Can your friend with the seed key generator also generate the required password for unlocking the Engineering Menu in COMAND 5*5?
Given the continiously disabling of (online) functionality by MB in these systems, it could be more and more required to "repair" this using the Enigneering Menu.
Given the continiously disabling of (online) functionality by MB in these systems, it could be more and more required to "repair" this using the Enigneering Menu.
#75
Senior Member
I don't believe the COMAND module has a seed-key restriction because I was in there a few weeks ago and enabled video-in-motion above 5 Km.
I'd have to go back in to see if there is a parameter to enable the Engineering Menu.
I'd have to go back in to see if there is a parameter to enable the Engineering Menu.
Last edited by jnash; 03-01-2020 at 11:30 AM.
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