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Old Oct 9, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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I saw the S550 Coupe at my dealer when I went to get a free car wash for my '15 S550.

I think the look is beautiful from the front. I much prefer it over the CL (Which looks really really dated now (There is a cl63 in my apartment complex garage).

The back, I'm not so sold on,

but realistically, I dont think its a very practical car, I'm not a fan of 2door cars, and with a fixed sunroof and such why is this any better than the sedan?

I guess this is for the people who have an s550 to be driven around in during the week, and the coupe is for weekend driving. (While the wife has a GL63 for the school run.
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Old Oct 9, 2014 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by spentan
I saw the S550 Coupe at my dealer when I went to get a free car wash for my '15 S550. I think the look is beautiful from the front. I much prefer it over the CL (Which looks really really dated now (There is a cl63 in my apartment complex garage). The back, I'm not so sold on, but realistically, I dont think its a very practical car, I'm not a fan of 2door cars, and with a fixed sunroof and such why is this any better than the sedan? I guess this is for the people who have an s550 to be driven around in during the week, and the coupe is for weekend driving. (While the wife has a GL63 for the school run.
If you have no kids or guests to lug around, why have a sedan
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Old Oct 9, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by spentan
I saw the S550 Coupe at my dealer when I went to get a free car wash for my '15 S550.

I think the look is beautiful from the front. I much prefer it over the CL (Which looks really really dated now (There is a cl63 in my apartment complex garage).

The back, I'm not so sold on,

but realistically, I dont think its a very practical car, I'm not a fan of 2door cars, and with a fixed sunroof and such why is this any better than the sedan?

I guess this is for the people who have an s550 to be driven around in during the week, and the coupe is for weekend driving. (While the wife has a GL63 for the school run.
beware of the dealer man, and the kids that wash their cars
always walk around, point out every nook and crannie, not to say you're not doing this already.......but sooner or later, something will happen
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Old Oct 9, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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fixed roof= car is worthless to me.

enjoyment of open roof is the next best thing to a convertible. to have such a sporty looking and I'm sure driving vehicle with a fixed roof is entirely nonsense IMO. Scratching this one off as not a contender for future vehicle. VERY disappointed.

just curious as to how many others won't mind spending this kind of money for something with a large albeit fixed roof. i don't see this as a small issue but I'm sure a large wealthy organization like Benz did their market research - or are they confident that "the best or nothing" motto will cause people to think that if benz says its not necessary, who are they to demand it?

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Old Oct 9, 2014 | 08:07 PM
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fixed roof= car is worthless to me. enjoyment of open roof is the next best thing to a convertible. to have such a sporty looking and I'm sure driving vehicle with a fixed roof is entirely nonsense IMO. Scratching this one off as not a contender for future vehicle. VERY disappointed. just curious as to how many others won't mind spending this kind of money for something with a large albeit fixed roof. i don't see this as a small issue but I'm sure a large wealthy organization like Benz did their market research - or are they confident that "the best or nothing" motto will cause people to think that if benz says its not necessary, who are they to demand it?
Ideally I would have liked a roof that can be opened but on the other hand I don't even remember last time I opened the roof so it's not a deal breaker for me.
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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nauticalx
fixed roof= car is worthless to me.

enjoyment of open roof is the next best thing to a convertible. to have such a sporty looking and I'm sure driving vehicle with a fixed roof is entirely nonsense IMO. Scratching this one off as not a contender for future vehicle. VERY disappointed.

just curious as to how many others won't mind spending this kind of money for something with a large albeit fixed roof. i don't see this as a small issue but I'm sure a large wealthy organization like Benz did their market research - or are they confident that "the best or nothing" motto will cause people to think that if benz says its not necessary, who are they to demand it?

I don't think anyone else will care once they see and experience the car. You don't get the engineering limitations here. Really silly reason IMO to pass on such a car. There will be a convertible S next year, probably another reason they didn't try to over engineer such a roof to open, when most don't use the feature anyways.

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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 04:48 AM
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I don't think anyone else will care once they see and experience the car. You don't get the engineering limitations here. Really silly reason IMO to pass on such a car. There will be a convertible S next year, probably another reason they didn't try to over engineer such a roof to open, when most don't use the feature anyways. M
I have to agree on this. After seeing the car I really don't care if it doesn't open.
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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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Due to the space constraints of a coupe, the only way to have a sun/moonroof is with a metal roof like the old CL's had.

Since MB wanted to create an airy/open cabin in the coupe with a lower roof line, the glass roof was the way to go.
There was probably a bit of research done to discover that many people never open their moon roofs in the first place.
NO MATTER WHAT, there should have been MORE OPTIONS here. This is a mega bucks car, a member of the "flagship" S Class. They should offer it with a regular, old style sunroof or moonroof, with the Magic Sky roof and as a plain, all steel roof. WHY does MB keep treating us like sheep? They continue to take options away from us, even on their top line vehicles, where the ability to allow the customer to "tailor" a car EXACTLY AS THEY WANT IT, should be paramount. Porsche has done it right for decades. If you want your leather interior the color of your Aunt Millie's kitchen wallpaper, just submit a sample and Porsche will match it for about $4K. Want your coupe with no sunroof? Just check the box. With the S Coupe and Sedan, ALL things should be optional, allowing the customer to order EXACTLY what they want.
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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 11:29 AM
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It's absolutely amazing to me (and amusing) to see people attempt to defend and attempt to explain away MB's decision on the roof of this otherwise fine automobile. As beautifully as they have done the E-Coupe's STANDARD pano roof, they could have easily done same with this vehicle. It was a boneheaded decision and anyone who attempts to explain it as impossible to engineer is talking without any logic or evidence. Yes of course the roof can be thinner if no tilt or slide mechanism is needed but to explain it as impossible because it HAD TO be that thin is ridiculous.

I enjoy MB products but am not a parrot for them when they fail to meet expectations. Sadly this is the only spot I see that they let down -- and it's a complete deal breaker for me.

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Originally Posted by Streamliner
NO MATTER WHAT, there should have been MORE OPTIONS here. This is a mega bucks car, a member of the "flagship" S Class. They should offer it with a regular, old style sunroof or moonroof, with the Magic Sky roof and as a plain, all steel roof. WHY does MB keep treating us like sheep? They continue to take options away from us, even on their top line vehicles, where the ability to allow the customer to "tailor" a car EXACTLY AS THEY WANT IT, should be paramount. Porsche has done it right for decades. If you want your leather interior the color of your Aunt Millie's kitchen wallpaper, just submit a sample and Porsche will match it for about $4K. Want your coupe with no sunroof? Just check the box. With the S Coupe and Sedan, ALL things should be optional, allowing the customer to order EXACTLY what they want.
AGREED 100%. Thank you. It should have been an option. You want a thinner roof or do you want one that opens? Pick your poison and open your wallet.

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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nauticalx
It's absolutely amazing to me (and amusing) to see people attempt to defend and attempt to explain away MB's decision on the roof of this otherwise fine automobile. As beautifully as they have done the E-Coupe's STANDARD pano roof, they could have easily done same with this vehicle. It was a boneheaded decision and anyone who attempts to explain it as impossible to engineer is talking without any logic or evidence. Yes of course the roof can be thinner if no tilt or slide mechanism is needed but to explain it as impossible because it HAD TO be that thin is ridiculous.

I enjoy MB products but am not a parrot for them when they fail to meet expectations. Sadly this is the only spot I see that they let down -- and it's a complete deal breaker for me.
Offending others that don't share your opinion seems like a stupid move. Others may think the same about your reasoning.

That said, the company offers a product; you don't like it, don't buy it. No loss here.
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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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No offense intended except to those who would automatically take offense at any criticism of MB which is exactly the point of my post above.

If they do lose sales because someone doesn't like this feature, or lack thereof, of course there will be a loss for them. That goes without saying. Thanks for the laugh.
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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nauticalx
No offense intended except to those who would automatically take offense at any criticism of MB which is exactly the point of my post above.

If they do lose sales because someone doesn't like this feature, or lack thereof, of course there will be a loss for them. That goes without saying. Thanks for the laugh.
Seems like a questionable argument. You assume Fanboyism yet the only people disagreeing with your reasoning also own other car brands.

By loosing your sale, MB is clearly doomed
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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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Its a done deal, what is the point of moaning about it further?

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Its a done deal, what is the point of moaning about it further?

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Because, somewhere, deep in the minds of most members here, we sincerely HOPE that our constructive comments get back to the powers that be, in those ivory towers in Stuttgart and that they CHANGE some things for the better. Not "moaning," just strongly SUGGESTING.
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Because, somewhere, deep in the minds of most members here, we sincerely HOPE that our constructive comments get back to the powers that be, in those ivory towers in Stuttgart and that they CHANGE some things for the better. Not "moaning," just strongly SUGGESTING.
How would that happen on MBWorld? If you all really feel that way then why not write/call/email MBUSA? Nothing will be done about it IMO, but still. I seriously doubt anyone from MBUSA is on here, let alone anyone from the German office in Stuttgart.

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I do think it's done for this year. If they decide to change it next year - we will have to wait and see. I am getting it regardless of whether it opens or not. My only thing is that I wish magic roof option was available when I ordered it but it wasn't. Maybe I can swap one when the mid cycle refresh happens.
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No way on earth that MB or MBUSA doesn't frequent these forums for free info and feedback on their vehicles and dealer experience.

Back on track on the topic of this thread-

I hope people will CONSTRUCTIVELY chime on on whether they are in the market for this vehicle and whether this option (or lack thereof) is going to play a factor in their decision or not.
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No way on earth that MB or MBUSA doesn't frequent these forums for free info and feedback on their vehicles and dealer experience.

Back on track on the topic of this thread-

I hope people will CONSTRUCTIVELY chime on on whether they are in the market for this vehicle and whether this option (or lack thereof) is going to play a factor in their decision or not.
I could have been a serious buyer for this car, but have decided that I would much prefer the S550 sedan with Magic Body Control, 18" wheels and just a more, overall comfortable riding car. That said, I will probably wait until MY16, to see if they listen to their customers and decide to put a spare in the trunk and conventional tires on the corners.
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That said, I will probably wait until MY16, to see if they listen to their customers and decide to put a spare in the trunk and conventional tires on the corners.
I think this is a bad bet.
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I think this is a bad bet.
I would also get the 9-speed trans in 2016, right? Is that a bad bet as well?
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I would also get the 9-speed trans in 2016, right? Is that a bad bet as well?
I asked that very question a few weeks ago and the answer was that there is no word on the 9 speed, even for 2016.

I, however, would not consider that to be as bad a bet as the conventional tires.

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I asked that very question a few weeks ago and the answer was that there is no word on the 9 speed, even for 2016.

I, however, would not consider that to be as bad a bet as the conventional tires.
OK, I think I get it: You feel that there the chances of MB offering conventional tires with a spare on the 2016 S550 sedan are slim to none, right? Yes, I probably agree with you. Are you a member of the Mercedesbenzadvisors.com site? They are currently doing a poll on how customers feel about run flats. The response is overwhelming against run flats. Since this is a factory sponsored web site, I do believe that they are getting the message loud and clear and that we may actually see a change on this one issue.
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No one can tell what changes may be in MY16 until that time. Rest is all speculation.
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OK, I think I get it: You feel that there the chances of MB offering conventional tires with a spare on the 2016 S550 sedan are slim to none, right? Yes, I probably agree with you. Are you a member of the Mercedesbenzadvisors.com site? They are currently doing a poll on how customers feel about run flats. The response is overwhelming against run flats. Since this is a factory sponsored web site, I do believe that they are getting the message loud and clear and that we may actually see a change on this one issue.
I understand. I think however, those that voice their opinions online are in the minority compared to the total number of S buyers. I am told most of the customers never say a word about the run flats.

None of us really have an idea as to what will happen. I think the best one can hope for is an option for a conventional tire or run flat. Having a spare would require a change in the trunk and I just don't see that happening.

One never knows until that time comes, but that is my understanding. I too do not like the run flats, so I have asked every person I possibly can and no one has encouraging answers... so far. I, like you, hope that changes.
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