Thank God for W222 Safety Features since they were tested tonight AND I am ALIVE!
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I have a feeling they are dragging their feet for liability reasons. Imagine Mercedes or a carmaker being sued by an aggrieved party for the video recordings after an accident. I think they let third parties handle this so they don't have direct liability over the functionality or the video footage but who knows with all the cameras around all it takes is one car manufacturer to offer it and they will all jump in.
For example, you get pulled over for speeding and you decide to fight the ticket. The state troopers could ask you to turn over your onboard computer to prove what speed you were going at the time. That technology exists. Now wonder why no one ever talks about adding it.
I can assure you that if you had cameras in your car, the other side would ask for the footage and they would paint a story in which you were liable, every time. Being under surveillance all the time may not always be to your advantage.
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As I study photographs taken of my accident scene, I noticed something very unusual. I noticed what looks like an airbag on the ground where my car entered a section of brush and trees which was its "final resting spot".
I had been reading tonight that MB was going to add the external airbag to the Pre-safe feature to the W222 underneath the car that is suppose to significantly increase the braking power of the S Class.
It appears that the W222 does have the external airbag under the car to increase the braking power in a crash. If this is true I will say---WOW. I suppose this could be an airbag from a prior crash at the scene of the accident but I doubt it.
Does anyone know for sure if this technology is part of the S Class?
I had been reading tonight that MB was going to add the external airbag to the Pre-safe feature to the W222 underneath the car that is suppose to significantly increase the braking power of the S Class.
It appears that the W222 does have the external airbag under the car to increase the braking power in a crash. If this is true I will say---WOW. I suppose this could be an airbag from a prior crash at the scene of the accident but I doubt it.
Does anyone know for sure if this technology is part of the S Class?
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Please realize that if our cars have this ability, law enforcement authorities/insurance companies could compel this discovery. This means that there would be a ton of data for lawyers and experts to pore over in every accident. I'm not sure that I'd want that.
For example, you get pulled over for speeding and you decide to fight the ticket. The state troopers could ask you to turn over your onboard computer to prove what speed you were going at the time. That technology exists. Now wonder why no one ever talks about adding it.
I can assure you that if you had cameras in your car, the other side would ask for the footage and they would paint a story in which you were liable, every time. Being under surveillance all the time may not always be to your advantage.
For example, you get pulled over for speeding and you decide to fight the ticket. The state troopers could ask you to turn over your onboard computer to prove what speed you were going at the time. That technology exists. Now wonder why no one ever talks about adding it.
I can assure you that if you had cameras in your car, the other side would ask for the footage and they would paint a story in which you were liable, every time. Being under surveillance all the time may not always be to your advantage.
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Dashcam data is personal data that can be compared to personal cell phone data. The Supreme Court ruled that a warrant would be required to obtain that and that is a very high bar.
Personally I have front/rear dash cams in all our cars (primarily in case of accidents or vandalism) but I can see that the data can be used both ways. Since virtually nobody drives exactly the speed limit, even if not at fault for an accident, one could be attributed a partial fault due to speeding.
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That is actually not a precedent since the data is stored through a 3rd party service and therefore subject to their policies and limitations.
Dashcam data is personal data that can be compared to personal cell phone data. The Supreme Court ruled that a warrant would be required to obtain that and that is a very high bar.
Personally I have front/rear dash cams in all our cars (primarily in case of accidents or vandalism) but I can see that the data can be used both ways. Since virtually nobody drives exactly the speed limit, even if not at fault for an accident, one could be attributed a partial fault due to speeding.
Dashcam data is personal data that can be compared to personal cell phone data. The Supreme Court ruled that a warrant would be required to obtain that and that is a very high bar.
Personally I have front/rear dash cams in all our cars (primarily in case of accidents or vandalism) but I can see that the data can be used both ways. Since virtually nobody drives exactly the speed limit, even if not at fault for an accident, one could be attributed a partial fault due to speeding.
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If you want an example of how much information we transmit (unawares) due to all the technology around us, ask Aaron Hernandez. Law enforcement in MA was able to create a pretty comprehensive picture based on cellphone data (among other things). Putting that same type of monitoring in cars is easy and done all the time (think LoJack).
