Originally Posted by hundolots

Update: We're still locked in this luxury pit of hell. Quite literally every vehicle we inquire about is either not available or is a demo car with 1600-3000 miles on them (which I don't want). A big difficulty is the dwindling supply of 2019 vehicles before the true influx of 2020s. In fact, there's only one dealership website in NY that we've found where they have 2020s. The dealership where I go certainly doesn't have any, that's for sure. They only have one S560 at all, and it's not very nice.

My wife is telling me "Just get anything, you'll love it within 5 minutes!" But I don't really want to do that. Do you people settle for anything when you have your heart and mind set on an S class? It would be infinitely helpful if these people could actually show me some vehicles. Instead, all we do is search search search. And it brings back increasingly disappointing results.

Finally, two days ago thank to the gentleman who posted the spec sheet above we located a North Carolina Ruby Black S560 with all the bells and whistles. It even had the exclusive nappa leather which I hadn't even planned on, but at this point I figured what the heck. It was a $126.5k vehicle and all of my discounts etc carried over. I was feeling good about this one after the last demo car disaster. The salesperson was feeling good too! 36 hours later we learn it too is a demo car, but this one has been "modified."

I am seriously losing steam here. I am willing to wait for a 2020 custom car, but they're telling me it could take up to 7 months, which sounds insane to me... but ok. Also, "half the trunk money won't carry over and you'll be paying more than you want to." Ok... makes sense, I guess. Although I just learned the term trunk money this week, so who the heck even knows? ha ha.

*sigh*

I am really getting exhausted. Any enjoyment this experience might have held has been siphoned out and drained into the gutter.

Originally Posted by Lanzz

Yes, if it is the car I am thinking about at MB South Charlotte, they turned it into a dreadful two tone "Maybach like" paint job using a wrap on the top half of the car... that car will sit for a decade unless they take that crap off it.

Originally Posted by hyperion667

Please provide a link or picture?

Originally Posted by Wolfman

At this point this is a bizarre thread.
S-Class Versus something else? There are plenty of 2019 models still around.
While some, like MTraumann, loves the ruby black and configures his cars to fit his wants and likes, it is not a popular color.
These cars are demos because they didn’t sell. This is not a surprise and a repeat of the 2018 launch models when Dealers were giving away those cars.

So now the OP has to deal with the reality of buying a car that is nearly the config or get a demo at a discount or get the car configured as many of us do.
It’s still easy to get a discount on a MY20, just not the trunk money. That’s life. Pay to play

But the saga is to some extend self inflicted.
Nobody can pick a car for you. Choose your priorities and make a choice...

Originally Posted by 1bad540

The sales guy is tired of you, go elsewhere without all your bs bagage.

Originally Posted by places

I'm beginning to wonder about this. Anyone else would have walked. There are other options. Typical high line MB buyer would not have acted this way.

Originally Posted by hundolots

I dont know, buddy. Everyone is different, I suppose. I actually feel bad for the salesperson because of the amount of time put into this. Plus I have an alright deal in place with a fair trade in on my S550. One might say I’m too loyal, too naive, too suspicious, you name it. At the end of the day I just want a new car, and if that cannot be accomplished I shall move on. I’m giving them another chance or two to find a suitable vehicle.

Originally Posted by hyperion667

Bad for a SALESPERSON??? They wouldn't feel bad for you that's for damn sure......leave the emotion OUT of the equation! As I am clearly NOT doing here LOL!

Originally Posted by hundolots

Lol. Normally I wouldn’t give a crap, but we’ve been going through this unusual string of bad luck together. One crushing disappointment after the next!! My philosophy is: if this person can get the same car as I’d get at another dealership then there’s no difference. For the weeks of searching and effort the sale should go to this salesperson. But once that good will dries up (if no delivery) then I walk

Originally Posted by Wolfman

You are quite mistaken.
Your dealer can’t just get cars from other dealers. Not for free. Anytime a car is pulled from another dealer, a swap, transport or other costs are involved. Don’t expect that any of these costs will not be covered by you.

This has also already been mentioned. Quite frankly, if you just continue discussing yet other cars with the dealer that doesn’t have them, you just can’t be helped.
You already have all the info to get a good deal. Stop being in your own way...

Originally Posted by Wolfman

You are quite mistaken.
Your dealer can’t just get cars from other dealers. Not for free. Anytime a car is pulled from another dealer, a swap, transport or other costs are involved. Don’t expect that any of these costs will not be covered by you.

This has also already been mentioned. Quite frankly, if you just continue discussing yet other cars with the dealer that doesn’t have them, you just can’t be helped.
You already have all the info to get a good deal. Stop being in your own way...

Originally Posted by hundolots

I do know that these cars aren’t just handed over, and that a trade or negotiation must be in place for any of this to happen. I should have elaborated in my message.

Originally Posted by Wolfman

This is where I don't understand your rationale. On the one side you seem very frugal to the point where time/effort doesn't seem to matter and on the other hand you tell people you have no problem wasting money on these complicated deals. These are four figure expenses you seem to ignore.

As already suggested by others, go where the cars are. Buying from dealers across the region is no biggie and you are on the east coast. Lots of dealers close by.
All of this is easy to handle via e-mail and phone calls later on. Go to cars.com, select 10-15 cars you like and send each one an email outlining an aggressive deal. Whoever responds is willing to discuss this further

Originally Posted by mobster600

I can respect hundolots hustle to get the lease at the right price. I get that the lease is a good idea for the S class. These cars have problems and you dont want to own a 5 yr old 120k car with problems...thumbs up agree. You want to lease it, enjoy the heck out of it and give it right back.....love the idea. Now lets talk about the price...you sound very smart with your pricing. You are very good with the #'s and you know there is a glut of these S class's all over. It makes makes all the sense to get a great deal right? Your almost doing the dealership a favor! haha. OK so here is my help to you. Your way too focused on the data side of things. You need to read the dealer and their body language on what THEIR best price is.....NOT yours. Part of making a good deal is knowing when to pull the trigger. You admitted that was your mistake. But admitting it wont prevent your from doing this ALL over again at another go-around. You need to ask the right questions and feel the dealer out. Get more personable with them and show them your not just an accountant trying to squeeze them. From the quality of your replies, I know your a personable person, but the numbers took control of your emotions. Good Luck!!

Originally Posted by sam9187

This thread must be a record. 13 pages about trying to buy a car and in the end there is nothing.

As others have suggested, Do a search on cars.com and identify a car that you may be interested in. You call the dealer that has the car and negotiate directly with them.

Dealer loyalty is a myth and certainly doesn't go both ways. As others have suggested a dealer swap is not that easy to accomplish and all costs involve will be passed on to you. I have bought many cars over the years and there is no such things as loyalty in the car business.

I have been in situations where a dealer is telling me they are trying to acquire a vehicle from another dealership only to find out they never called that dealer. Another situation where I had an order for a Ford F450 for months (when they were released) waiting patiently for an allocation and then the dealer promised one that their sister dealership was getting. To make a long story short there was no truck when time came.

Clearly you are being played by the dealership and you can't see it. Whether it's the salesperson and/or management, its time to move on and go somewhere else.

A black S class should be very easy to get as black is a common color. It should be lot easier now that you have moved on from Ruby black. It's not that you are getting the new G63 and there is a 1-2 year wait. You are getting a common car.

Also the service department doesn't care where you bought the car. None of my cars were bought from the dealership where my cars are serviced.

I have purchased many cars over years across many brands including some custom ordered AMG and it's never been this hard not it took this long o make a deal.

Go somewhere else and start fresh.

Good luck.

Originally Posted by sam9187

This thread must be a record. 13 pages about trying to buy a car and in the end there is nothing.

As others have suggested, Do a search on cars.com and identify a car that you may be interested in. You call the dealer that has the car and negotiate directly with them.

Dealer loyalty is a myth and certainly doesn't go both ways. As others have suggested a dealer swap is not that easy to accomplish and all costs involve will be passed on to you. I have bought many cars over the years and there is no such things as loyalty in the car business.

I have been in situations where a dealer is telling me they are trying to acquire a vehicle from another dealership only to find out they never called that dealer. Another situation where I had an order for a Ford F450 for months (when they were released) waiting patiently for an allocation and then the dealer promised one that their sister dealership was getting. To make a long story short there was no truck when time came.

Clearly you are being played by the dealership and you can't see it. Whether it's the salesperson and/or management, its time to move on and go somewhere else.

A black S class should be very easy to get as black is a common color. It should be lot easier now that you have moved on from Ruby black. It's not that you are getting the new G63 and there is a 1-2 year wait. You are getting a common car.

Also the service department doesn't care where you bought the car. None of my cars were bought from the dealership where my cars are serviced.

I have purchased many cars over years across many brands including some custom ordered AMG and it's never been this hard not it took this long o make a deal.

Go somewhere else and start fresh.

Good luck.