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FINALLY fixed the common TRANSMISSION rough up/down shifting in W222!!!!!!!

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Old 10-28-2019, 01:03 PM
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Could you please share your dealership name and service advisor? I will provide this to my dealership and see if they can replicate
Mercedes-Benz of Warwick, SA is Joe Dias.
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Got the car back today. No solution. They said the new software js being finalized and will be ready the 1st week of January. So I'll have to come back then.
Was this verified by a tech with some internal documentation? I hope all dealers will be aware of this.
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Was this verified by a tech with some internal documentation? I hope all dealers will be aware of this.
Probably not. He showed me the email from corporate. It said "release the car back to the customer and have them come back in January, we'll have an updated software by then."
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Originally Posted by tkelley.EClass
Probably not. He showed me the email from corporate. It said "release the car back to the customer and have them come back in January, we'll have an updated software by then."
Interesting..Did the dealer get HQ involved or did you complain? I am trying to figure out the best approach..OP said his car was updated but they should of waited till Jan if the update is indeed being developed.
Old 10-29-2019, 09:32 AM
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Interesting..Did the dealer get HQ involved or did you complain? I am trying to figure out the best approach..OP said his car was updated but they should of waited till Jan if the update is indeed being developed.
They went to HQ on their own accord. I was just inquisitive and polite but no complaining really.
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F Y I . As a previous owner of 35 MB's over 40 years I have experienced jerky transmissions. 4 yrs ago I switched to Audi. Have bought 5 Audi's since. All have had ZF transmissions that are silky smooth. Obviously I was a diehard MB driver,but it was a time for a change. There were several reasons for my decision.

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Originally Posted by greasykid
F Y I . As a previous owner of 35 MB's over 40 years I have experienced jerky transmissions. 4 yrs ago I switched to Audi. Have bought 5 Audi's since. All have had ZF transmissions that are silky smooth. Obviously I was a diehard MB driver,but it was a time for a change. There were several reasons for my decision.
Could not agree more...I have partially made the move to BMW and not looking back... ZF trans are awesome when everything is functioning properly!
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Probably not. He showed me the email from corporate. It said "release the car back to the customer and have them come back in January, we'll have an updated software by then."

That's weird!!! I have the software update installed for over 10 days now and the car works just great and shifts smooth!!!!.........


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Old 11-02-2019, 02:32 PM
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That's weird!!! I have the software update installed for over 10 days now and the car works just great and shifts smooth!!!!.........
5 Years for a software update? I wonder if they will make a TSB about it or if it will be updated by "complaint only".
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Old 11-02-2019, 02:39 PM
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5 Years for a software update? I wonder if they will make a TSB about it or if it will be updated by "complaint only".
It's updated by "complaint only" cause not every car has this issue. some members had already mentioned that their car is driving okay, however many owners reported this issue, after all what is important to me is that the software is available and works fine based on my experience.
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Spoke with my dealer. Car is going in a few weeks, I feel confident they will be able to address the issue after speaking with the tech.
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Spoke with my dealer. Car is going in a few weeks, I feel confident they will be able to address the issue after speaking with the tech.
can you at least share a summary of what they told you so others can benefit from it?
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Originally Posted by Rami_saeed
can you at least share a summary of what they told you so others can benefit from it?
It was verbal...Car is going in to dealer in next week and I’ll post back after.
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Originally Posted by OnlyGerman
It was verbal...Car is going in to dealer in next week and I’ll post back after.
Got it back, they updated TCM and performed shift adaptations. I will see how it improves. No mention by dealer for any software to be released in Jan as stated by others though...
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UPDATE:
it has been almost 4 weeks now since I updated the software and performed the manual shift points adaptations.
  • So far, the car is still shifting very smooth and even better than when it had 0 miles on it.
  • The only exception is when car is cold, it tend to shift hard from 2-3 but then it starts shifting smooth once temperature reaches 170 or more.
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can u share a copy of your service sheet (service description) for that visit?
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Got it back, they updated TCM and performed shift adaptations. I will see how it improves. No mention by dealer for any software to be released in Jan as stated by others though...
can u share a copy of your service sheet (service description) for that visit?
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UPDATE:
2 months since I updated the new software and performed the manual shift points adaptations:
  • Car is still shifting very smooth. Not even a single rough shift.
  • The only exception is when car is cold only sometimes, it tends to shift hard from 2-3 but then it starts shifting soooo smooth as soon as engine temperature reaches 160 or more.
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Originally Posted by S_W222
UPDATE:
2 months since I updated the new software and performed the manual shift points adaptations:
  • Car is still shifting very smooth. Not even a single rough shift.
  • The only exception is when car is cold only sometimes, it tends to shift hard from 2-3 but then it starts shifting soooo smooth as soon as engine temperature reaches 160 or more.
Thanks for the update, I had the same thing done with less desirable results. Will report back here in mid-January when then give me the alleged 2020 update that was referenced a few months ago.
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Thanks for the update, I had the same thing done with less desirable results. Will report back here in mid-January when then give me the alleged 2020 update that was referenced a few months ago.
i hardly doubt that it’s about a newer software version. You just need to find a good service engine who knows what manual adaptation means. The software they use would suggest some values but the mechanic/service engineer would adjust those further manually. The guy I dealt with is very well familiar with the issue so he knows what he was doing (different than just pushing bottoms and let the software do it).
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i hardly doubt that it’s about a newer software version. You just need to find a good service engine who knows what manual adaptation means. The software they use would suggest some values but the mechanic/service engineer would adjust those further manually. The guy I dealt with is very well familiar with the issue so he knows what he was doing (different than just pushing bottoms and let the software do it).
My service tech showed me the email from HQ saying the newest W222 transmission fix was coming in January 2020. This was my third visit about the issue and he seemed embarrassed thus the "please, come read this email". I'm not saying anyone is wrong or right here but this was my experience. I live in RI and all the millionaires in Newport shop here so I'm confident there staff is competent. However, I'm not a benz tech so we shall see what happens in January.
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Originally Posted by tkelley.EClass
My service tech showed me the email from HQ saying the newest W222 transmission fix was coming in January 2020. This was my third visit about the issue and he seemed embarrassed thus the "please, come read this email". I'm not saying anyone is wrong or right here but this was my experience. I live in RI and all the millionaires in Newport shop here so I'm confident there staff is competent. However, I'm not a benz tech so we shall see what happens in January.
I agree with you. Hopefully the new software next year will fix this issue without the need for someone to do it manually as in my case. it's just a matter of luck, sometimes u find the right guy who went through this experience and sometimes u just have to wait until HQ sends some instructions.
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I agree with you. Hopefully the new software next year will fix this issue without the need for someone to do it manually as in my case. it's just a matter of luck, sometimes u find the right guy who went through this experience and sometimes u just have to wait until HQ sends some instructions.
In all reality, its a nuisance once or twice per 20-30 minute drive. It happens, I look down, and I'm in 4th. Then I shrug and say "hope they fix that". That being said, I'm still blessed and happy with the car minus that fault. Happy holidays to the folks on the forum for the next couple days reading threads. Life is good, especially in a W222.
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:23 AM
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In all reality, its a nuisance once or twice per 20-30 minute drive. It happens, I look down, and I'm in 4th. Then I shrug and say "hope they fix that". That being said, I'm still blessed and happy with the car minus that fault. Happy holidays to the folks on the forum for the next couple days reading threads. Life is good, especially in a W222.
It's crazy how MB wasn't able to make this fix happen with a simple software update for years now. I still can't get it why not all MB service departments can fix it. I was able to successfully resolve the problem forever now but it's only cause I was lucky enough to deal with one smart service engineer who fixed it for me by 1st installing the latest software but also doing a ((""MANUAL") shifting normalization. The trick according to him was not to allow the software to just automatically chose the new shift points, but to "MANUALLY" adjust them while driving the car around and adjust them for values that the software has chosen based on his judgement on where they need to be to make shifting smoother for my case. It has been two months now and the car shift soooo smooth, can't even tell when it shifts up or down if am just accelerating slowly.

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