2019 S560 Transmission Performance
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2019 S560 Transmission Performance
Hi All, I have had my brand new 2019 S560 for just over a month and have clocked up 1700 kilometres (just over a 1000 miles). I am just getting used to it and the various tech features.
I have noticed that no matter what mode I am in (ECO, COMFORT, SPORT or DYNAMIC) I can never see the gears getting up to the 9th Gear or very rarely in D.
Some context before I ask your wise counsel.
Q1: Is the transmission behaving as normal or
Q2: because I have been driving it gently (only been in sport mode once and never in Dynamic mode) should I get the upshifting / downshifting checked and perform an adaptation reset ?
Q3: Does the old procedure of performing a home adaptation reset (as per the old 7 speed transmissions, key at turn 2, accelerator pedal to the floor, wait 30 secs, switch of, don't open doors etc etc etc) work on these new 2019 W222 9 G Transmissions ?
Q4: Does the 9 speed really need autobahn speeds to get up to the 9th gear ?
Your thoughts much appreciated.
I have noticed that no matter what mode I am in (ECO, COMFORT, SPORT or DYNAMIC) I can never see the gears getting up to the 9th Gear or very rarely in D.
Some context before I ask your wise counsel.
- My commute to work (this is a daily driver) is about 25 kms each way.
- Max speed in traffic I get up to usually is about 85 kms/hour (56 to 58 miles per hour).
- In town I appear to be using a max 5th or 6th gear.
- On the occasional long trip (60+ kilometres) to the airport I get up to 8th gear when doing 100 kms/hour and see an excellent 7.9L/100 kms consumption. Otherwise I usually average about 12.0 L/100 kms.
Q1: Is the transmission behaving as normal or
Q2: because I have been driving it gently (only been in sport mode once and never in Dynamic mode) should I get the upshifting / downshifting checked and perform an adaptation reset ?
Q3: Does the old procedure of performing a home adaptation reset (as per the old 7 speed transmissions, key at turn 2, accelerator pedal to the floor, wait 30 secs, switch of, don't open doors etc etc etc) work on these new 2019 W222 9 G Transmissions ?
Q4: Does the 9 speed really need autobahn speeds to get up to the 9th gear ?
Your thoughts much appreciated.
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Hi All, I have had my brand new 2019 S560 for just over a month and have clocked up 1700 kilometres (just over a 1000 miles). I am just getting used to it and the various tech features.
I have noticed that no matter what mode I am in (ECO, COMFORT, SPORT or DYNAMIC) I can never see the gears getting up to the 9th Gear or very rarely in D.
Some context before I ask your wise counsel.
Q1: Is the transmission behaving as normal or
Q2: because I have been driving it gently (only been in sport mode once and never in Dynamic mode) should I get the upshifting / downshifting checked and perform an adaptation reset ?
Q3: Does the old procedure of performing a home adaptation reset (as per the old 7 speed transmissions, key at turn 2, accelerator pedal to the floor, wait 30 secs, switch of, don't open doors etc etc etc) work on these new 2019 W222 9 G Transmissions ?
Q4: Does the 9 speed really need autobahn speeds to get up to the 9th gear ?
Your thoughts much appreciated.
I have noticed that no matter what mode I am in (ECO, COMFORT, SPORT or DYNAMIC) I can never see the gears getting up to the 9th Gear or very rarely in D.
Some context before I ask your wise counsel.
- My commute to work (this is a daily driver) is about 25 kms each way.
- Max speed in traffic I get up to usually is about 85 kms/hour (56 to 58 miles per hour).
- In town I appear to be using a max 5th or 6th gear.
- On the occasional long trip (60+ kilometres) to the airport I get up to 8th gear when doing 100 kms/hour and see an excellent 7.9L/100 kms consumption. Otherwise I usually average about 12.0 L/100 kms.
Q1: Is the transmission behaving as normal or
Q2: because I have been driving it gently (only been in sport mode once and never in Dynamic mode) should I get the upshifting / downshifting checked and perform an adaptation reset ?
Q3: Does the old procedure of performing a home adaptation reset (as per the old 7 speed transmissions, key at turn 2, accelerator pedal to the floor, wait 30 secs, switch of, don't open doors etc etc etc) work on these new 2019 W222 9 G Transmissions ?
Q4: Does the 9 speed really need autobahn speeds to get up to the 9th gear ?
Your thoughts much appreciated.
In summary: the advantages of the new transmission are mainly gained at very high speed that the 8th and 9th gear are covering. The 2nd one is that 9G transmission can skip multiple individual gears when downshifting (which can occur only when you are racing or on a kick-down!. People think they'd get tremendous differences, but unfortunately the two gears have the same housing and even same size, and improvement is focused on two areas that are rarely used by the average person so don't be surprised that you are not seeing the 8th and 9th gears under normal driving conditions.
Last edited by S_W222; Dec 29, 2019 at 09:59 PM.
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Will definitely try this on my way home today but will do so only when I have a free run on the freeway at speeds between 80 to 100 kms / hour and shall report back.
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My 2016 S500 9G-Tronic gets to 9th gear once it reaches 90 km/h, the rpms are 1000 at cruising speed.
Between 80 to 88 km/h is in 8th gear.
Thats just a guess but maybe your gearbox received a different software then my pre-facelift model.
Between 80 to 88 km/h is in 8th gear.
Thats just a guess but maybe your gearbox received a different software then my pre-facelift model.
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The coupe S-class has a different software, also, the transmission unit as well as the software is one year older than those put on the 2017 sedans and face-lift models (2018+), hardware is pretty much the same but software is not.
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As far as I can tell by your description, yes.
The transmission will not let a gear be selected if the engine RPMs will go below <about>1,000 RPMs.
The engine is most efficient at 1,500 +/- 100 RPMs in converting fuel into mileage.
Q2: because I have been driving it gently (only been in sport mode once and never in Dynamic mode) should I get the upshifting / downshifting checked and perform an adaptation reset ?
Q3: Does the old procedure of performing a home adaptation reset (as per the old 7 speed transmissions, key at turn 2, accelerator pedal to the floor, wait 30 secs, switch of, don't open doors etc etc etc) work on these new 2019 W222 9 G Transmissions ?
Q4: Does the 9 speed really need autobahn speeds to get up to the 9th gear ?
Q3: Does the old procedure of performing a home adaptation reset (as per the old 7 speed transmissions, key at turn 2, accelerator pedal to the floor, wait 30 secs, switch of, don't open doors etc etc etc) work on these new 2019 W222 9 G Transmissions ?
Q4: Does the 9 speed really need autobahn speeds to get up to the 9th gear ?
The engine is most efficient at 1,500 +/- 100 RPMs in converting fuel into mileage.
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2019 S560, 2022 Audi S8
I too have a 2019 model coming out of a 2017 S63. Now that you've brought this up, I'm going to pay more attention to this as I drive between 75 and 80 mph on the interstate and I've never looked to see what gear it is in. One thing you might want to look into is the individual settings you've chosen for your car's handling. You have options to change the steering stiffness, transmission sportiness, and chassis softness. You probably have already done that but I just wanted to remind you of it.
