kafklatsch

After just watching the EQS 2022 1st Drive on utube , and seeing that incredible interactive door to door dash board, I am even more convinced that the current pitiful 2021 add on tablets for the S class is just an attempt for the company to get a 2Fer purchase ...knowing the owners will flock to upgrade to the beautiful functional dash in the next S Class generation
OR
That S class will never get integrated displays and the new EQS will have an equivalent S class which is where you will go to have a beautiful functional integrated Dash/display

that EQS display is what I expected in the W223... the logical step from the W222.... it may come down to the engineering team for the display lagged the new w223 intro into service date and thus the step backwards to the pitiful tablets

Of course JMHO

Mitch Alsup

For me:: Bring back the Analog gauges !!

Streamliner

Early Jaguar E-Type with Smiths Gauges. Doesn’t get much better than this.

Wolfman

I like the hyper screen and it will come to the S-class in some form but for now the EQ will get first billing.
Nothing new here. The S-class got a lot of “firsts” in terms of tech but that’s usually not the case for all tech. A lot of new features (like MBUX) was launched in other models first...

The current S-class layout is the new default for all other Mercedes models.

superswiss

Not sure if you are aware, but the Hyperscreen in the EQS is optional. The standard interior looks similar to the W223, so it's very likely that the W223 will get the Hyperscreen option at some point, and other models for that matter as well. Maybe not before the FL, though. Here's the EQS interior w/ and w/o the Hyperscreen for comparison.

kafklatsch

Excellent information
So essentially a 2021 top of the line S Class has the entry level dash

Hey at least now I have some justification for why it appears just that ..entry level .. add-a-tablet.... and not becoming of one of the Premier automobiles on the planet..

And the only difference between the 2021 C class and the S class is essentially 50-100,000 dollars for leg room

MBS63AMG

I just went out to the garage and hugged my W222.

Wolfman

Of course you can convince yourself of anything

It's just interesting how we go through this ritual with every new model cycle. Some like it, many hate it and then there is the drama of how the brand is going downhill and its all but a shadow of its prior glory and reputation. Go back seven years to the W221 forum and the W222 was the culprit; this character-less blob without any defining lines designed by some Korean hack... the now beloved W222. Even the verbiage was the same, lamenting of how the C-E and S-Class all look the same, etc., etc.

The W222 is a fantastic car that has proven so much better than the car it replaced. We shall see if the W223 will do the same; my bet is it will and in time people will likely defend the W223 against whatever comes next

kafklatsch

Been around here for a long time... always someone that doesn't like a new generation for every car ever built..but I can't seem to locate massive dislike for the w221 and then w222.. especially the interiors.. can you pm me some links so we don't begin a p***g match... I did search... the difference between the w140 and w220 was of such extreme significance ( Flintstone to jetsons) that I would exclude that gen change discussion....

the w223 has the admitted entry level dash across the entire lineup... the very point of contention for many is confirmed to be entry level via EQS data

And
because of the entry level dash;
2021 C Class + $50,000 worth of legroom = 2021 S Class

I'm really sorry i just want to move up but I am stuck until 2026? Or?... and for now an all electric is out...

Wolfman

I'll have a look around for relevant threads.
If memory serves, the biggest W222 interior discussion was the disliked "clown face" steering wheel which was compared to Lincolns of the sixties, along with complaints about trims

I probably don't see the W223 dash as entry level, rather as polarizing. Like/Dislike of the design is different than material quality. While Mercedes applies the same sausage/different length approach to models like BMW and Audi, etc. the S-Class is clearly on a different level than a C or E-Class, just like before.
So far, it seems to be a step up from the W222 as well (apart from design choices). But we'll only know when we can see/drive nicely spec'd models in the showroom.

Btw, it was known by MB executives that the center tablet will be a very controversial choice to say the least...

MBNUT1

I've often thought that they must have had some rousing debates internally on the W223 screens.

hyperion667

Jaguar, for a pretty penny, will build you an 'old' car with new electronics and 'stuff'.

absent

Traditionalist's wet dream dashboard:

Wolfman

Incredible how the quality of the switch gear improved since VAG took over Bentley. Thanks for sharing!

chassis

Nice interiors. Hearkens back to when Ford owned AML and the business strategy of cost leveraging was in full swing. Steering wheel in the Vantage is the corporate wheel from the 1992 Taurus. Note the oval is retained in the lower right on the Aston steering wheel, a non-Aston design element.

MBNUT1

Nice catch. But it is so much better because it is in an Aston. That leather wrap had to be worth a least a grand or two. And people complain about sharing across model lines within Mercedes.

chassis

The more I look at the Aston photo, the more Ford gadgetry can be seen: HVAC registers, headlamp switch, turn signal stalk, steering tilt lever, power window buttons. Funny stuff!

kafklatsch

in the PRE-information age, this information would have been rarely disseminated......not commonly known... the aston Martin owner would likely never have seen a Taurus interior and vise-versa. .. especially with a long enough view to dissect the shared parts

if they had known, they would have been disappointed and complained about it.

To pay 50-100,000 for leg room as the difference between a 2021 C Class and S Class... with the entire S Class lineup having the EQS entry level dash display just sucks

thanks for the nostalgia pics..

DaveW68

There is A LOT more difference between a C and S class than leg room.

kafklatsch

the body and interior are for all intents and purposes the same,... the Entry and King should be drastically different
As suggested on the forum, i went back and looked across the 3, 5 and 7 bimmers.. I'm sorry, but they are immediately different to my eye... you know there are bimmers, but they do not look alike.

I cant keep up my crying, I am just so disappointed in the w223 common add-a-tablets, common triangular tailights, bland nose, and non-descript exterior flow. and having to do a double take to see that its actually a C or an E.

The w222 was/is amazing and I was so ready for "what's next???"... how do you 1 up the w222... then this...
but i have to stop this... life goes on and i need to accept that I'm stuck until 2026 or?

SW20S

If you really think the only difference between an S Class and a C Class are the rear leg room, you have dramatically wasted your money on the S Class. Even if they looked literally exactly the same I would choose the S Class.

MBNUT1

I wish they could make the C Class look (scaled down of course) and drive as refined as the W222 S Class. I would buy one in a second.

emilner

A 5 and 7 series are near twins inside and out. If you think they are drastically different and C and S classes are the same car in a different length then I feel terrible for you. Or maybe happy- I wish I thought a 2 buck chuck tasted the same as a nice first growth

kafklatsch

thank you so much.., your opinion is evidently right as opposed to being an opinion

the 2021 S-Class is what you say it is... and compares to the C-Class as you state they compare

.....i cried for a few tenths because you made me feel bad

i apologize

SW20S

He’s correct. There is no comparison between an S Class and a C Class. The drive, quality, comfort, refinement are on another level. Do you dispute that?