Audi S8
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Good Luck with the A8. You'll be back In the meantime familiarize yourself with these dashboard warnings as you'll be seeing them quite a bit. Hopefully the dealer is in close proximity.
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I read somewhere that the S8 doesn't have auto steer/lane centering assist; is this true? In between my W222 and W223 I briefly had an Audi Q8 which most definitely had auto steer. Was a great SUV mostly, I preferred it over anything that MB or BMW had in that space. Also the seats were way more comfy than those on my current S500.
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Curious question actually, Mercedes doesn't make a performance lite version of the S-Class and goes all out with the S 63 and S 65 (once upon a time for the S 65) (is it because of "the best or nothing" reason?) but then Audi does with the S8 (but to be fair I guess the S8 is close to the S 63 when it comes to power, sort of, maybe?) and not the RS8 (wait... I guess I answered my own question, the 8 is reserved for the R8, unless there is another reason why they don't make the RS 8?) Thoughts?
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Curious question actually, Mercedes doesn't make a performance lite version of the S-Class and goes all out with the S 63 and S 65 (once upon a time for the S 65) (is it because of "the best or nothing" reason?) but then Audi does with the S8 (but to be fair I guess the S8 is close to the S 63 when it comes to power, sort of, maybe?) and not the RS8 (wait... I guess I answered my own question, the 8 is reserved for the R8, unless there is another reason why they don't make the RS 8?) Thoughts?
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For Audi "S" use to be top dog in nomenclature. The S4 for example competed with the M3 back in the day, now its an M-Performance/AMG-Performance (M340i, C43) competitor. So the S8 has always been an equivalent S55/S63 competitor, and BMW refuses to make an M7 (I'm honestly surprised they haven't considering the XM is about to be a standalone M-car, but that's a rant for a different day ) so the closest competition is an Alpina B7. The A8 had been following the old Audi model lineup style, featuring two engine displacements for the A8, and a top dog S8 performance variant, while other cars have moved on to the one engine for A, one for S, and one for RS (example, A4 use to feature a 2.0 and a 3.2 model, now the 3.2 has become the S4 3.0). That being said, for some reason (likely low sales numbers as the A/S8 are low sellers for the class) for 2022, they've dropped the A8 V8 completely, leaving only the V6, and they dropped the S8 price by $15k to make up for the A8 V8 buyers. As to why they won't use the RS badging? I imagine they likely have a similar to reason as to why they won't badge M on a big luxo sedan.
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I know lots of people with modern Audis, and not one of them has problems. Its simply not true that Audis have more issues than Mercedes. And lets be honest, Mercedes is not Lexus lol
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I read somewhere that the S8 doesn't have auto steer/lane centering assist; is this true? In between my W222 and W223 I briefly had an Audi Q8 which most definitely had auto steer. Was a great SUV mostly, I preferred it over anything that MB or BMW had in that space. Also the seats were way more comfy than those on my current S500.
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Great that the S8 has "hands free" Auto steer with the adaptive cruise offered in the Executive Package? Thought it was a something I could do without but is a pretty cool trick especially since 2021 AMG Wagon can even change lanes just by using turn signal stalk. Have to eventually grab the steering wheel after a period of time on empty rural I-25 in NM.
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For Audi "S" use to be top dog in nomenclature. The S4 for example competed with the M3 back in the day, now its an M-Performance/AMG-Performance (M340i, C43) competitor. So the S8 has always been an equivalent S55/S63 competitor, and BMW refuses to make an M7 (I'm honestly surprised they haven't considering the XM is about to be a standalone M-car, but that's a rant for a different day ) so the closest competition is an Alpina B7. The A8 had been following the old Audi model lineup style, featuring two engine displacements for the A8, and a top dog S8 performance variant, while other cars have moved on to the one engine for A, one for S, and one for RS (example, A4 use to feature a 2.0 and a 3.2 model, now the 3.2 has become the S4 3.0). That being said, for some reason (likely low sales numbers as the A/S8 are low sellers for the class) for 2022, they've dropped the A8 V8 completely, leaving only the V6, and they dropped the S8 price by $15k to make up for the A8 V8 buyers. As to why they won't use the RS badging? I imagine they likely have a similar to reason as to why BMW won't badge M on a big luxo sedan.
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Has a full size spare. When going over speed bumps it's almost like they are not there. Mine has alcantara on just about every surface of doors and roof. And yes, if I didn't know it from looking at the size of the wheels on the equipment list I would think they were 18" wheels the ride is so smooth.
I like the Audi infotainment better though.
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Good, that was a head-scratcher for me, how could it not have it. I thought I remembered it wrong so I searched for that part and found it:
The guy has quite a few video reviews and from sampling some, seems pretty knowledgeable. Not sure how he got it so wrong on this one.
The guy has quite a few video reviews and from sampling some, seems pretty knowledgeable. Not sure how he got it so wrong on this one.
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Good, that was a head-scratcher for me, how could it not have it. I thought I remembered it wrong so I searched for that part and found it:
The guy has quite a few video reviews and from sampling some, seems pretty knowledgeable. Not sure how he got it so wrong on this one.
https://youtu.be/tHzSK-wEkQQ?t=530
The guy has quite a few video reviews and from sampling some, seems pretty knowledgeable. Not sure how he got it so wrong on this one.
https://youtu.be/tHzSK-wEkQQ?t=530
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Good, that was a head-scratcher for me, how could it not have it. I thought I remembered it wrong so I searched for that part and found it:
The guy has quite a few video reviews and from sampling some, seems pretty knowledgeable. Not sure how he got it so wrong on this one.
https://youtu.be/tHzSK-wEkQQ?t=530
The guy has quite a few video reviews and from sampling some, seems pretty knowledgeable. Not sure how he got it so wrong on this one.
https://youtu.be/tHzSK-wEkQQ?t=530
Audi A/S8 is still last gen in both of these categories.
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My 2021 Audi RS7 is one of the most exciting car I've driven. The ride and handling is amazing. I have not had any issues so far. Audi knows how to build great cars especially in the S and RS categories. Nonetheless my regular Audi have all been very reliable over the past 15 years alongside my Mercedes. Nice to have both in the garage.
My 2021 Audi RS7 is one of the most exciting car I've driven. The ride and handling is amazing. I have not had any issues so far. Audi knows how to build great cars especially in the S and RS categories. Nonetheless my regular Audi have all been very reliable over the past 15 years alongside my Mercedes. Nice to have both in the garage.
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My 2021 Audi RS7 is one of the most exciting car I've driven. The ride and handling is amazing. I have not had any issues so far. Audi knows how to build great cars especially in the S and RS categories. Nonetheless my regular Audi have all been very reliable over the past 15 years alongside my Mercedes. Nice to have both in the garage.
My 2021 Audi RS7 is one of the most exciting car I've driven. The ride and handling is amazing. I have not had any issues so far. Audi knows how to build great cars especially in the S and RS categories. Nonetheless my regular Audi have all been very reliable over the past 15 years alongside my Mercedes. Nice to have both in the garage.
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Ive driven a non-runflat S560 and Audi A8 over the exact same roads and nasty speed bumps and I can comfortably say it’s the same ****. The Audi matched the S Class in the worst bumps and roads, but didn’t match the S Class in feeling like it floated on the Highway. I was packin the Continental DWS06s and my S560 had the AMG Package sport suspension. Somehow better than my S450 with the regular suspension.
I like the Audi infotainment better though.
I like the Audi infotainment better though.
But I agree with this assessment of the ride differences between the two.
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Funny you said that because I thought to myself today if this car rides this good with 21" wheels, how incredible it would be with 19 or 18s. If the moderator wants to shift this discussion to the W222 threads, I would understand. I didn't mean to make MBs feel inferior to the W223. They are both great cars and very good in their own ways.
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FYI, there is no "AMG Sport Suspension" on the S Class. AMG appearance cars like mine and the one you had have the same suspension as the non AMG package cars. You have to go to the S63 to get a sport tuned suspension.
But I agree with this assessment of the ride differences between the two.
But I agree with this assessment of the ride differences between the two.
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Originally Posted by KingdomCometh;[url=tel:8558498
8558498]Really? My S450 could clear parking bumps no issue without raising it but my S560 couldn’t. Maybe the previous owner did something to the suspension.