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Old 05-02-2022 | 09:09 PM
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Good Luck with the A8. You'll be back In the meantime familiarize yourself with these dashboard warnings as you'll be seeing them quite a bit. Hopefully the dealer is in close proximity.



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Old 05-03-2022 | 07:23 AM
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Good Luck with the A8. You'll be back In the meantime familiarize yourself with these dashboard warnings as you'll be seeing them quite a bit. Hopefully the dealer is in close proximity.

I doubt it. But thanks for the positive feedback

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Old 05-03-2022 | 09:05 AM
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I read somewhere that the S8 doesn't have auto steer/lane centering assist; is this true? In between my W222 and W223 I briefly had an Audi Q8 which most definitely had auto steer. Was a great SUV mostly, I preferred it over anything that MB or BMW had in that space. Also the seats were way more comfy than those on my current S500.
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Old 05-03-2022 | 12:36 PM
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Curious question actually, Mercedes doesn't make a performance lite version of the S-Class and goes all out with the S 63 and S 65 (once upon a time for the S 65) (is it because of "the best or nothing" reason?) but then Audi does with the S8 (but to be fair I guess the S8 is close to the S 63 when it comes to power, sort of, maybe?) and not the RS8 (wait... I guess I answered my own question, the 8 is reserved for the R8, unless there is another reason why they don't make the RS 8?) Thoughts?
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Curious question actually, Mercedes doesn't make a performance lite version of the S-Class and goes all out with the S 63 and S 65 (once upon a time for the S 65) (is it because of "the best or nothing" reason?) but then Audi does with the S8 (but to be fair I guess the S8 is close to the S 63 when it comes to power, sort of, maybe?) and not the RS8 (wait... I guess I answered my own question, the 8 is reserved for the R8, unless there is another reason why they don't make the RS 8?) Thoughts?
For Audi "S" use to be top dog in nomenclature. The S4 for example competed with the M3 back in the day, now its an M-Performance/AMG-Performance (M340i, C43) competitor. So the S8 has always been an equivalent S55/S63 competitor, and BMW refuses to make an M7 (I'm honestly surprised they haven't considering the XM is about to be a standalone M-car, but that's a rant for a different day ) so the closest competition is an Alpina B7. The A8 had been following the old Audi model lineup style, featuring two engine displacements for the A8, and a top dog S8 performance variant, while other cars have moved on to the one engine for A, one for S, and one for RS (example, A4 use to feature a 2.0 and a 3.2 model, now the 3.2 has become the S4 3.0). That being said, for some reason (likely low sales numbers as the A/S8 are low sellers for the class) for 2022, they've dropped the A8 V8 completely, leaving only the V6, and they dropped the S8 price by $15k to make up for the A8 V8 buyers. As to why they won't use the RS badging? I imagine they likely have a similar to reason as to why BMW won't badge M on a big luxo sedan.

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Old 05-03-2022 | 02:08 PM
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For Audi "S" use to be top dog in nomenclature. The S4 for example competed with the M3 back in the day, now its an M-Performance/AMG-Performance (M340i, C43) competitor. So the S8 has always been an equivalent S55/S63 competitor, and BMW refuses to make an M7 (I'm honestly surprised they haven't considering the XM is about to be a standalone M-car, but that's a rant for a different day ) so the closest competition is an Alpina B7. The A8 had been following the old Audi model lineup style, featuring two engine displacements for the A8, and a top dog S8 performance variant, while other cars have moved on to the one engine for A, one for S, and one for RS (example, A4 use to feature a 2.0 and a 3.2 model, now the 3.2 has become the S4 3.0). That being said, for some reason (likely low sales numbers as the A/S8 are low sellers for the class) for 2022, they've dropped the A8 V8 completely, leaving only the V6, and they dropped the S8 price by $15k to make up for the A8 V8 buyers. As to why they won't use the RS badging? I imagine they likely have a similar to reason as to why they won't badge M on a big luxo sedan.
Appreciate the answer, thanks js_cls : ) especially bringing BMW as an example in too, I didn't realized BMW did the same thing as what Audi did for their flagship.
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Good Luck with the A8. You'll be back In the meantime familiarize yourself with these dashboard warnings as you'll be seeing them quite a bit. Hopefully the dealer is in close proximity.
I know lots of people with modern Audis, and not one of them has problems. Its simply not true that Audis have more issues than Mercedes. And lets be honest, Mercedes is not Lexus lol
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Old 05-03-2022 | 03:12 PM
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I know lots of people with modern Audis, and not one of them has problems. Its simply not true that Audis have more issues than Mercedes. And lets be honest, Mercedes is not Lexus lol
Audi A4's are one of the most reliable cars made. Far better than a C Class.
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I read somewhere that the S8 doesn't have auto steer/lane centering assist; is this true? In between my W222 and W223 I briefly had an Audi Q8 which most definitely had auto steer. Was a great SUV mostly, I preferred it over anything that MB or BMW had in that space. Also the seats were way more comfy than those on my current S500.
Yes, my S8 has auto steer and lane keeping. Works very well.
Old 05-03-2022 | 07:59 PM
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Yes, my S8 has auto steer and lane keeping. Works very well.
Great that the S8 has "hands free" Auto steer with the adaptive cruise offered in the Executive Package? Thought it was a something I could do without but is a pretty cool trick especially since 2021 AMG Wagon can even change lanes just by using turn signal stalk. Have to eventually grab the steering wheel after a period of time on empty rural I-25 in NM.
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Everything the reviewer said I agree with. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 05-03-2022 | 08:48 PM
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For Audi "S" use to be top dog in nomenclature. The S4 for example competed with the M3 back in the day, now its an M-Performance/AMG-Performance (M340i, C43) competitor. So the S8 has always been an equivalent S55/S63 competitor, and BMW refuses to make an M7 (I'm honestly surprised they haven't considering the XM is about to be a standalone M-car, but that's a rant for a different day ) so the closest competition is an Alpina B7. The A8 had been following the old Audi model lineup style, featuring two engine displacements for the A8, and a top dog S8 performance variant, while other cars have moved on to the one engine for A, one for S, and one for RS (example, A4 use to feature a 2.0 and a 3.2 model, now the 3.2 has become the S4 3.0). That being said, for some reason (likely low sales numbers as the A/S8 are low sellers for the class) for 2022, they've dropped the A8 V8 completely, leaving only the V6, and they dropped the S8 price by $15k to make up for the A8 V8 buyers. As to why they won't use the RS badging? I imagine they likely have a similar to reason as to why BMW won't badge M on a big luxo sedan.
I'll be a poser and get a RS badging placed on my car. . Yes, the price was dropped by $15K. The only thing missing on my car that I wish I had was the rear comfort 4-place seating package.

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Recently purchased a A8 of this generation. Super underrated. Superior fit and finish.

OP, enjoy the change!

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Old 05-04-2022 | 01:08 AM
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Has a full size spare. When going over speed bumps it's almost like they are not there. Mine has alcantara on just about every surface of doors and roof. And yes, if I didn't know it from looking at the size of the wheels on the equipment list I would think they were 18" wheels the ride is so smooth.
Ive driven a non-runflat S560 and Audi A8 over the exact same roads and nasty speed bumps and I can comfortably say it’s the same ****. The Audi matched the S Class in the worst bumps and roads, but didn’t match the S Class in feeling like it floated on the Highway. I was packin the Continental DWS06s and my S560 had the AMG Package sport suspension. Somehow better than my S450 with the regular suspension.

I like the Audi infotainment better though.
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Yes, my S8 has auto steer and lane keeping. Works very well.
Good, that was a head-scratcher for me, how could it not have it. I thought I remembered it wrong so I searched for that part and found it:

The guy has quite a few video reviews and from sampling some, seems pretty knowledgeable. Not sure how he got it so wrong on this one.


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Wow I thought I was on the Audi forum for a moment.

Congratulations MBS63 on your S8, looks beautiful.
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Originally Posted by mwilson122
Good, that was a head-scratcher for me, how could it not have it. I thought I remembered it wrong so I searched for that part and found it:

The guy has quite a few video reviews and from sampling some, seems pretty knowledgeable. Not sure how he got it so wrong on this one.

https://youtu.be/tHzSK-wEkQQ?t=530
I guess everyone makes mistakes, I wouldn't be too hard on someone for these mistakes. When I buy a vehicle I watch more than one video, article reviews anyways. It is a good point of reference but I will verify the information first from different sources. That should be all good, unless there is a chance that all the sources are based on one main source that might be inaccurate. I guess then we refer to audi's official site and their press release.
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Good, that was a head-scratcher for me, how could it not have it. I thought I remembered it wrong so I searched for that part and found it:

The guy has quite a few video reviews and from sampling some, seems pretty knowledgeable. Not sure how he got it so wrong on this one.

https://youtu.be/tHzSK-wEkQQ?t=530
His review seems pretty accurate. S580 is an insulated dome. Not the best over bumps on 21’s with RFTs but that’s to be expected. Much better insulation and suspension than the W222 with tires and rim sizes being kept the same.

Audi A/S8 is still last gen in both of these categories.
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My 2021 Audi RS7 is one of the most exciting car I've driven. The ride and handling is amazing. I have not had any issues so far. Audi knows how to build great cars especially in the S and RS categories. Nonetheless my regular Audi have all been very reliable over the past 15 years alongside my Mercedes. Nice to have both in the garage.




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My 2021 Audi RS7 is one of the most exciting car I've driven. The ride and handling is amazing. I have not had any issues so far. Audi knows how to build great cars especially in the S and RS categories. Nonetheless my regular Audi have all been very reliable over the past 15 years alongside my Mercedes. Nice to have both in the garage.
Both great looking rides, and I like the fact that you color coordinated them to both be silver.
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Ive driven a non-runflat S560 and Audi A8 over the exact same roads and nasty speed bumps and I can comfortably say it’s the same ****. The Audi matched the S Class in the worst bumps and roads, but didn’t match the S Class in feeling like it floated on the Highway. I was packin the Continental DWS06s and my S560 had the AMG Package sport suspension. Somehow better than my S450 with the regular suspension.

I like the Audi infotainment better though.
FYI, there is no "AMG Sport Suspension" on the S Class. AMG appearance cars like mine and the one you had have the same suspension as the non AMG package cars. You have to go to the S63 to get a sport tuned suspension.

But I agree with this assessment of the ride differences between the two.

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Funny you said that because I thought to myself today if this car rides this good with 21" wheels, how incredible it would be with 19 or 18s. If the moderator wants to shift this discussion to the W222 threads, I would understand. I didn't mean to make MBs feel inferior to the W223. They are both great cars and very good in their own ways.
Given the relevance, this thread will be moved to the W222 forum. Just a heads-up
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Old 05-04-2022 | 07:35 PM
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FYI, there is no "AMG Sport Suspension" on the S Class. AMG appearance cars like mine and the one you had have the same suspension as the non AMG package cars. You have to go to the S63 to get a sport tuned suspension.

But I agree with this assessment of the ride differences between the two.
Really? My S450 could clear parking bumps no issue without raising it but my S560 couldn’t. Maybe the previous owner did something to the suspension.
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8558498]Really? My S450 could clear parking bumps no issue without raising it but my S560 couldn’t. Maybe the previous owner did something to the suspension.
Well the front splitter in the sport package model is lower, that’s what the issue is most likely. But no the suspension is exactly the same.


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