I get renewables wind and solar….but…..on a 200/300 mile day run with a few stops in the country, can an electric S get it done? Any limits?

My 222 on gas can do this at 90 mph no problem. Battery can do this?

All comments welcome.

Unless you buy two EQS I'm afraid you won't perform 200/300 mile day run .Charging of those would take tens of minutes even with the super fast charging options and assuming you don't wait for the queue . Battery powered cars can do 90 mph or even 250 km/h without any problem but the faster you drive the sooner the battery depletes that's why or one of the reasons why some car manufacturers limit their cars to 160 km/h or 180 km/h .Just as any hybrid cars highway driving is not the most efficient way of driving those cars .
I had owned a plug in hybrid before and won't buy anymore .
Fuel cell should be the future not electric vehicles to me

Hey Donny it'll be fine as long as you don't use the air conditioner!

An EQS will do a 200-300 mile run no problem.

Or 400 in hot weather.

Based on my calculations from these two links you would have about 285 miles range at 90 mph with a full battery.

The S560 has a 21.2 gallon tank which is equivalent to a 711kWh battery versus the EQS's 107.8 so while the EQS is considerably more efficient than an S Class it will be a challenge for it to have the same range.

What is your mpg for that trip?

It appears you can also add 200+ miles range in 20 minutes on a common 150KW charger assuming you are down to about 10%-ish charge.

Gas engine cars are still much faster to fill but the gap is closing. You can overnight charge the EV which can be more convenient day to day. Electric is well suited for a luxury car. I would expect the next gen would look less like a blob.
When the resale tanks on these EVs, I think they might be a deal.

The Genesis G80 electric should drop in value super quickly too. Crash safety is marginal in those, looking at IIHS side impact results, there is only 8cm of room to the center of the drivers seat after the lower speed crash, and the head injury criteria was lackluster. The E class by comparison had 23cm to the center of the drivers seat ( as well as the BMW 5 series ) after the same test and much lower head injury criteria.

No IIHS tests on the S Class nor 7 series so you just have to guess that its at least as good as the E.

Yes I am watching the used values of the EQS's now. Though my wife thinks I am ridiculous for looking at such a large car.
Thanks for teeing up the G80 and flagging the crash test results.

On a trip there’s no question the gas car is better/more convenient. But for day to day use never having to fill up would be great.

I appreciate the input! I get EV is great in town and on short runs. I’m to spread out and need the range and assurance of gas. My 17 222 fits the bill perfect.

My EV days will have to wait and that will include a suitable replacement for an F350.

Guys thanks.

"short runs" is relative. It has 380 miles of range. How often do you drive more than 380 miles in a day?

Anything under 250 is a short run with little to zero traffic. Over 380 is 4x a year. None of my destinations have re-charge.

In the big car EV world, how much room, if any, is lost to battery space and motors? Net zero loss?

How many miles are on your S Class?

Depends on the design of the car. In something like an EQS, really nothing because the car was designed around the EV layout. In something that is an ICE car adapted to be an EV there is some loss.

https://www.iseecars.com/car/2022-me...eqs-dimensions

https://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-ben...eatures-specs/

I think the rear seating dimensions might actually be bigger however I think that EQS rear seat sits lower than the S Class and might be less comfortable. I think this is driven by the aero based roofline.

What I really like about the EQS is the hatchback design.

The EQE is very disappointing in this regard.

Interesting. For me, the boob-like design is a deal breaker, since I expect an S level car to be a big sedan (even if it has a ridiculously small trunk, like the W222 does).

I wasn't talking about aesthetics as much as the practical aspect. I get your point that the hatch configuration drives that aesthetics though a model S Tesla is a hatch and it looks good. I like the idea that the model S has a camping mode. You could actually sleep in the back in a conditioned space without generating fumes.

I have a 21' Nissan Leaf that is my wife's car, it is only 225 mile range but it works great for around town but no plans to take it on a 225 miles ride just yet. I think that cars that are designed as pure EV have a better handle on storage of the battery packs than retro fit. Read reviews the Genesis G80 EV which was a pure retrofit and you lose a ton of trunk space and rear seat room and leg room with the floor raised. I think MB didn't want to start to mess with people that buy S Class like people on this board who are not interested in the savings an EV can provide (they are way cheaper to run if you have a home charger).

I believe that a 400-500 mile range where you can go 80-90 miles an hour for a long trip is the sweet spot, also MB is starting to look at building out dedicated charging network in conjuction with ChargePoint, that will make the big difference. My brother's Model 3 is easy for him to make 500 mile trips with the supercharger network where your 100% sure you will get a fast recharge.

The EQS is not as comfortable as an S Class in the rear for sure. Seats are low, roofline is low.

Compare the i7 though, the EV 7 Series and the ICE 7 series are identical. Rear seat in the i7 is awesome.

Low 50s. 52k I think. My other dd is a F350 diesel with a tune. S beats the F350 in gal/mi. Not even close.

How long have you had it? If you drive that many long trips on a regular basis it should have higher mileage than that...

Most of my trips are split between the S550 and a F350 diesel with a tune. S beats the F350 in gal/mi. Not even close.

Time owned and trip count between 3 vehicles…no clue

Your situation then would be ideal for an EV. You have other gas cars to drive on distances where you would have range anxiety and then for the day to day you would have an EV you never need to worry about refueling.

What, ***** are the best!
Doh, wrong forum! 🤪

I’ll stick with my gas guzzlers.

The point is eventually, you're not going to have a choice, if you want to buy a car of this caliber the only options will be EV