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Thank you for the public service announcement. I have been wary of this engine. One of the reasons being my indy telling me about a 2014 S550 that the valve seat had dropped on. How much of this technology is shared with the twin turbo V6?
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I watched this prior to buying my S550 and while good information, I do think certain things are over-charactarized as "common" or "frequent".
Early cars, sure. but the 278 engines have been largely very reliable. In searching for my car, I came across tons of S, CLS, and E models with the 278 that were well over 100k some approaching 150k or more. They're maintenance queens, and they have some things that need to be addressed in higher mileage, but no worse than most other makes especially newer cars to be honest.
From what I recall, MB engines share quite a bit between 6 and 8 cyl counterparts. the 278 and 276 are likely very similar although I could be wrong. A valve seat dropping on a 278 is not something that I would think is a common failure point.
Nevermind the kinds of issues that other MFGs experience....Audi especially with their more recent hot v engines, some of the bmw 8 cylinders.
Early cars, sure. but the 278 engines have been largely very reliable. In searching for my car, I came across tons of S, CLS, and E models with the 278 that were well over 100k some approaching 150k or more. They're maintenance queens, and they have some things that need to be addressed in higher mileage, but no worse than most other makes especially newer cars to be honest.
From what I recall, MB engines share quite a bit between 6 and 8 cyl counterparts. the 278 and 276 are likely very similar although I could be wrong. A valve seat dropping on a 278 is not something that I would think is a common failure point.
Nevermind the kinds of issues that other MFGs experience....Audi especially with their more recent hot v engines, some of the bmw 8 cylinders.
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You know the only thing that really bothered me was the valve seats and that cover gasket that could cause mixing of the oil and coolent which he said was on the early M278's. The rest are manageable. Also he made no mention of bore scoring.
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The video was released on 7/2022. The M278 had been out for 12 years. He says the cylinder heads are a big problem on these engines but he’s only replaced 2 at the shop. I’m sure many customers have turned the repair down and sold the car, but 2 repairs in 12 years and that’s “common”??
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The video was released on 7/2022. The M278 had been out for 12 years. He says the cylinder heads are a big problem on these engines but he’s only replaced 2 at the shop. I’m sure many customers have turned the repair down and sold the car, but 2 repairs in 12 years and that’s “common”??
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The video was released on 7/2022. The M278 had been out for 12 years. He says the cylinder heads are a big problem on these engines but he’s only replaced 2 at the shop. I’m sure many customers have turned the repair down and sold the car, but 2 repairs in 12 years and that’s “common”??
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I do understand that a large volume of cash would be needed for ANY late-model MB performance engine. That’s a given. Early M278s (particularly in the GL) seemed to have some issues but the 2014+ do not seem to be a problematic engine. Just my experience as an owner who has perused these forums for years.
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The M156 engine has nothing in similar to the M278…..you probably meant M157. Again shows how clueless you are.
Every manufacture has issues. BMW/Audi/JLR. Across the board. Timing chains, injector issues, piston rings, rod bearings, defective y-pipes, oil screen issues, etc etc etc. The list is long and goes on and on. Not one make is immune to issues or problems.
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This guy doesn’t even own a M278/M157 vehicle or a W222. It’s amusing and comical to see a NON OWNER talk about “reliability” based on research they’ve done from a online forum and YouTube. LOL
The M156 engine has nothing in similar to the M278…..you probably meant M157. Again shows how clueless you are.
Every manufacture has issues. BMW/Audi/JLR. Across the board. Timing chains, injector issues, piston rings, rod bearings, defective y-pipes, oil screen issues, etc etc etc. The list is long and goes on and on. Not one make is immune to issues or problems.
The M156 engine has nothing in similar to the M278…..you probably meant M157. Again shows how clueless you are.
Every manufacture has issues. BMW/Audi/JLR. Across the board. Timing chains, injector issues, piston rings, rod bearings, defective y-pipes, oil screen issues, etc etc etc. The list is long and goes on and on. Not one make is immune to issues or problems.
Regarding ownership, are you of the belief that you have to be the owner of the garbage dump to know whether it stinks or not?
