tonupbklyn

hmm... the Chinese trope was unnecessary.
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thanks for correcting the error in your ways, i see you've deleted the entry...as u were about to lose a significant region of potential clients.

S_W222

Agreed. I remember seeing Ninja including also about 4-5 other counties: Korea, Singapore, Russia and 2 other Asian countries. It only speaks to how political some folks are trying to make this issue is. As a US client myself, I treat all international transactions the same way. Completing the service I paid for is all I care about. Now that you mentioned this, he edited his post --> so thanks for keeping people straight and holding them accountable to their words. Likely ->it was only because he was about lose a significant region of potential clients.

SW20S

Why is this so personal for you? I don’t get it.

S_W222

He posted it back again now after you noted it, lol.

vinflouen

Let me sum this up.
Benz Ninja is the best!
Everyone else? Never heard of you…..

Sonic Boom

Sorry BN, but what do you mean by “ I don't work with those countries, they don't meet my standards “
Those “countries” customers/MB owners don’t meet your standards?

Donnymac

It’s simple capitalism, ladies. I have the BN black box now and hope to tinker with it manana.

BN has a verified track record and that’s good enough for me.

Robb92914

I'm with you but that doesn't mean no one else can do it 🤣🤣

Robb92914

Based on track record and yes reviews and experiences on this forum, I have to go with Benz Ninja. I'm definitely one for finding a good deal but quality is key. I appreciate you posting the other coder and looked into his YouTube. He seems very experienced but not enough reviews or first hand experiences from MB owners IMO.

It's okay to have competition and you should definitely stand by your work and I can respect that Benz Ninja is on here defending himself and his work. Now the whole "they are not up to my standards" could have used a better choice of words but I won't touch on that.

We're all just a bunch of nerds that love our car lol debate, conversation, and competition is healthy. Now I need my car coded!! 😂

Sonic Boom

SW20S

There is a language barrier at work here, folks

superpop

Well, this thread took an interesting turn. Sounds like we have some options, which is always good.

S_W222

It has been five days since I had the Engine Auto Start/Stop (***) and 4-Cylinder deactivation coding done and am satisfied wit ha few observations I want to share. Since having that coding done, I can confidently say that the slight vibration I previously felt at low acceleration and low throttle has completely disappeared. This was the primary reason for getting 4-Cylinder deactivation desiabled, and it has been a huge success.

Now that I have seen how effective the 4-Cylinder deactivation coding is in eliminating vibrations, I plan to request if it's possible that even with *** turned on, the 4-Cylinder deactivation remains OFF (right now the default is that it's either both OFF or both ON). My goal is to eliminate the strange feeling when the car is driving on 4-Cylinder mode while keeping the *** on (I still prefer the engine to turn off on stop lights). Overall, I highly recommend disabling the 4-Cylinder deactivation feature to anyone who is sensitive to vibrations or harmonic feelings.

I also have the (always "I") drive mode coded, and I noticed that selecting Eco or Comfort as the standard engine mode under the "Individual" setting had no effect. So, I'm 100% certain that 4-Cylinder deactivation has nothing to do with Eco mode only and that it's active even under Comfort drive mode.


For those who don't know what 4-Cylinder deactivation is: The S560 engine automatically shuts down cylinders 2, 3, 5 and 8 between 800rpm and 3600rpm to save fuel (even when in Comfort drive mode). A two-mass viscous damper mounted at the front reliably eliminates vibrations. Obviously they don't eliminate it enough for OCD Mercedes owners, lol

S_W222

Drove a few trips with *** ON and then OFF for 30 min (city driving) each time and with 8-cylinder activated reverted to normal (on). I actually noticed 2-3 higher MPG with *** and 8 cylinder deactivation switched to ON. Didn’t notice this until a few weeks of consistent driving while monitoring MPG. 18MPG vs the 19-20MPG in city.

point is: don’t get surprised if your GPM gets reduced. I’d recommend keeping 8-cylinder on high-way trips but still prefer it to be off which took care of normal idle vibration 100%.

NbyNW

Not sure I’m following you. I’ll admit I fit the OCD type for noise and vibrations. Are you saying to keep it 8 cylinders firing all the time to eliminate or reduce vibration and harmonics? I’d think yes, 8 cylinders all the time. To go green I’ll drive our Volt (super cool car).

Did Max code it to keep it on all 8 cylinders all the time?

S_W222

Yes and yes. It’s actually (4-cylinder deactivation not 8), my bad. From what I learned, when it runs on 4 it slightly make an unavoidable harmonic waves. U have to be OCD to feel it. With 8 cylinders all time on that fixed it but of course no more eco or gas savings lol but it’s negligible

nybenzo

Not sure if I missed the link. Can you please post the new guys information so I can check it out for myself. Much appreciated

S_W222

I sent you the information I have via a message. Good luck.

Donnymac

As to 800-3600 RPM, that is in lower gears only or city only? In a 550 on the hwy, 1900 RPM in 9th is butter smooth on 8….no news there. With a 560 same situation, it would be on 4 only?

Thanks.

S_W222

You said 550; but were you accidentally referring to 560? I thought that 550 does not have 4-cylinder deactivation anyway, isn’t? You mentioned the 9 gears so that means you are either referring to a 2017 S550 or a facelift S560; but still even the 17’ S550 with the new transmission, I doubt it has the 4-cylinder deactivation. Only S560 has the 4-cylinder deactivation feature “which is really bad and am glad I got it off”.
Am asking so I can better answer your question and I owned/own both; S550 and S560.

Donnymac

I’m a 550 running on 8.

I was wondering….at 75 mph on the hwy, a 560:would be on 4? What gear? What rpm?

Sorry for the concussion.

wildta

@S_W222 when you did your coding, did you also shop RJ Automotive? Just curious.

S_W222

I’ll have to check, but am 100% certain at some reasonable highway speeds close to that threshold, yes the engine could run on 4 cylinders furing light or no acceleration moments. RPM is pretty low, again I’ll have to check to see the values but it is certainly lower than my previous W222. I actually do re-activate the 4-cylinder deactivation during highway trips as I don’t mind it. Most users experience the harmonic type of vibration at the lower in-town speeds. It is not something that a typical driver would notice, u really have to be an OCD type of a driver for vibrations to feel it.. so I guess that’s how it passed MB engineering though they should have optimized it even further. I’ll get back to you once I take readings/thresholds during my next highway drive. If you have an S550, there is no 4-cylinder deactivation at all. I don’t think u should care about it anyway, I myself have code it off… another issue is the idle known vibration, and somehow, that also got fixed when the 4-cylinder deactivation was coded off.

S_W222

I’ve considered and researched 3 coders, but RJ Automotive that you mentioned were not one of those 3. I did not know about them to be honest at that time. However, I’ve read good stuff about RJ Automotive recently under the GLS forum or the GLE forum (don’t recall which one now). I just checked their website, they seem to have good and reasonable prices honestly, combined with good reviews. If you have any experience with them, I’d appreciate if you can share it so I know. I see that they do MBUX and W223 coding too, which is a good verification of their knowledge in the field.

wildta

RJ is based in the UK and did my ILS for a GLE and some other basic programming as found on his menu. RJ does his programming remotely. Price-wise, much better than BenzNinja, but RJ isn't able to do more granular programming like BN--RJ said he doesn't have the time but I also wonder if a Xentry laptop needs to be physically attached to do the more advanced programming? Maybe those knowledgeable in Xentry can chime in about this. RJ is very fast, and very trustworthy and I would recommend their services. Links to reference for others:

• https://rjautomotive.net/pages/coding-options
• https://benzninja.com/special-tunes/