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RJ is based in the UK and did my ILS for a GLE and some other basic programming as found on his menu. RJ does his programming remotely. Price-wise, much better than BenzNinja, but RJ isn't able to do more granular programming like BN--RJ said he doesn't have the time but I also wonder if a Xentry laptop needs to be physically attached to do the more advanced programming? Maybe those knowledgeable in Xentry can chime in about this. RJ is very fast, and very trustworthy and I would recommend their services. Links to reference for others
Thank you ! Pricewise we now offer free mods also full rental refund, diagnostics, repair help
There is no secure coding with a $30 plug.
That is a joke, irresponsible and dangerous
Unbelievable that people would who own a 50-160k car want to save a a dollar with the risk of damaging their car
Last edited by BenzNinja; Nov 6, 2023 at 02:52 PM.
I’ll have to check, but am 100% certain at some reasonable highway speeds close to that threshold, yes the engine could run on 4 cylinders furing light or no acceleration moments. RPM is pretty low, again I’ll have to check to see the values but it is certainly lower than my previous W222. I actually do re-activate the 4-cylinder deactivation during highway trips as I don’t mind it. Most users experience the harmonic type of vibration at the lower in-town speeds. It is not something that a typical driver would notice, u really have to be an OCD type of a driver for vibrations to feel it.. so I guess that’s how it passed MB engineering though they should have optimized it even further. I’ll get back to you once I take readings/thresholds during my next highway drive. If you have an S550, there is no 4-cylinder deactivation at all. I don’t think u should care about it anyway, I myself have code it off… another issue is the idle known vibration, and somehow, that also got fixed when the 4-cylinder deactivation was coded off.
No rush at all. I wanted to understand the differences.. I didn't realize 4/8 was a 560 selection feature Not sure I would ever run on 4. Thanks.
Thank you ! Pricewise we now offer a $250 golden ticked for free mods also full rental refund ! just to make clear that our pricing changed to nice discounts
Great fan ! As many here
So different, a real Artist !
Same as you Donnymac BenzNinja has my highest level of recommendation too !
Last edited by Saint*Himars; Jun 8, 2023 at 04:33 AM.
No rush at all. I wanted to understand the differences.. I didn't realize 4/8 was a 560 selection feature Not sure I would ever run on 4. Thanks.
Didn’t do a test drive to verify yet, but this is what I found which might have answers to what we were talking about:
“4-cylinder deactivation”, described as ZAS in some technical documents, is possible if: • ECO start-stop system active, not deactivated via the Start / Stop key “—> so this means, if you turn it off, ZAS will be of too!” wierd connection between the two. • Coolant temperature> 46 ℃ depending on the surrounding temperature and requests for heating the cabin • Comfort or ECO driving program from 2nd gear • Vehicle speed> 18 km / h at engine speed <1600 rpm ("DCT") • Vehicle speed> 45 km / h depending on the comfort request ("NVH") • Catalyst temperature> 320 ℃ • Intake air temperature> -30 ℃ • Battery voltage> 10 V ZAS not possible if: • Coolant temperature> 110 ℃ • Sport, Manual driving modes, and during manual gear shifting • Vehicle speed> 170 km / h or engine speed> 3800 rpm
Didn’t do a test drive to verify yet, but this is what I found which might have answers to what we were talking about:
“4-cylinder deactivation”, described as ZAS in some technical documents, is possible if: • ECO start-stop system active, not deactivated via the Start / Stop key “—> so this means, if you turn it off, ZAS will be of too!” wierd connection between the two. • Coolant temperature> 46 ℃ depending on the surrounding temperature and requests for heating the cabin • Comfort or ECO driving program from 2nd gear • Vehicle speed> 18 km / h at engine speed <1600 rpm ("DCT") • Vehicle speed> 45 km / h depending on the comfort request ("NVH") • Catalyst temperature> 320 ℃ • Intake air temperature> -30 ℃ • Battery voltage> 10 V ZAS not possible if: • Coolant temperature> 110 ℃ • Sport, Manual driving modes, and during manual gear shifting • Vehicle speed> 170 km / h or engine speed> 3800 rpm
Would be nice to see the source of your copy/paste
Didn’t do a test drive to verify yet, but this is what I found which might have answers to what we were talking about:
“4-cylinder deactivation”, described as ZAS in some technical documents, is possible if: • ECO start-stop system active, not deactivated via the Start / Stop key “—> so this means, if you turn it off, ZAS will be of too!” wierd connection between the two. • Coolant temperature> 46 ℃ depending on the surrounding temperature and requests for heating the cabin • Comfort or ECO driving program from 2nd gear • Vehicle speed> 18 km / h at engine speed <1600 rpm ("DCT") • Vehicle speed> 45 km / h depending on the comfort request ("NVH") • Catalyst temperature> 320 ℃ • Intake air temperature> -30 ℃ • Battery voltage> 10 V ZAS not possible if: • Coolant temperature> 110 ℃ • Sport, Manual driving modes, and during manual gear shifting • Vehicle speed> 170 km / h or engine speed> 3800 rpm
You’re welcome. Like I said, I have not done a drive test or investigated the details for our M176 engine specifically, but will let you know when I do, but in the meantime at least should give an indication of the logic and how Mbenz is designing the cylinder deactivation in their engines.
You’re welcome. Like I said, I have not done a drive test or investigated the details for our M176 engine specifically, but will let you know when I do, but in the meantime at least should give an indication of the logic and how Mbenz is designing the cylinder deactivation in their engines.
Originally Posted by Donnymac
As to 800-3600 RPM, that is in lower gears only or city only? In a 550 on the hwy, 1900 RPM in 9th is butter smooth on 8….no news there. With a 560 same situation, it would be on 4 only?
Thanks.
Update: As promised, wanted to get back to you. Finally got the chance to test it on the highway. Answer is yes, i noticed the 4 cylinder deactivation works by default (as spec’d by factory, basically with eco mode on) on highway under very light acceleration.
Disclaimer: I have no affiliation nor any relationship or connection with this coding company EleBest Pte Ltd or Max who is the owner of this business; I am simply a happy costumer sharing experience for the benefit of the Mbenz community here. Not the first to use him here; he was referred to me by other members here.
Just sharing my experience working with one of the companies who are well known in the hardware retrofitting coding area for German cars based on what I concluded from their previous work and reviews. After I recently learned they are the only one offering W223 coding and successfully helped some members here, I asked few members if they tried him for W222, and answer was positive.
I did extensive review of his previous work in BMW forums and his reputation is high, so I contacted him to learn more about his services for Mbenz and W222. He was easy to work with, responds immediately on WhatsApp, he always does a (connection test) before you pay a single penny, and offer a nice gesture of free AMG theme coding (at least in my case) before booking a formal/final appointment for all you coding needed. Plus, they do not have any minimum coding service amount.
I hired them as they offered me ONE THIRD the cost that other coders are asking for (I did not negotiate, simply accepted, fair enough). They also do coding FULLY REMOYTE without requiring you to buy any equipment that must be shipped to you, and without you needing to pay for renting any equipment (so no shipping delays back and forth, lower cost, etc.). It is all 100% remote, and you only pay reasonable amount for his coding time which was really quick.
Process (finished same day, took 2 hour from first contact to finish):
I contacted them around evening US time "morning time for them" (they have WhatsApp number ). Responded within 15 minutes.
All I needed is a cable from Amazon for W222 (if you have W223, ENET cable "OBD-to-Ethernet" is all you need which you may have already or find anywhere locally or $20 Amazon). For W222, if you don't have it already, he can suggest you a 30 bucks OBD-to-USB cable from ebay (also available on Amazon Prime) which I already had in advance as I used it before for coding on my BMW X7.
Once cable connected to my laptop, via TeamViewer he did my coding in 15-30 min coding (he stores a backup of your initial settings)
I did ILS+ (amazing how it works)
And I also did (Engine Auto Start/Stop last setting memory) coding.
He did some AMG logos and theme coding for me at no charge. I thought about europ-spec's height which he can do, but still not sure if I really want it; might try it later for a few days and reverse it if I don't like it.
After coding was done, he called me on WhatsApp and had his camera/video opened to check on everything and that all was good and am happy with the service. The video chat call made the experience a bit more personalized and makes you feel comfortable that you know who you deal with. He stayed with me during a test drive and also walked me through the menu step by step to make sure I know how to control the new features I got and that they are working.
The business owner name is Max, very very nice guy and highly recommended company. Check them out on YouTube, outstanding reputation in other BMW forums, and did very complex retrofit work on Mbenz and German cars based on what I saw on his YouTube channel.
A few members here on the W222 have already hired him, and that's how I knew him. They are welcome to share their experiences here too.
Photos from my car:
Thank you for recommending Max,
Was a breeze working with him and very fair pricing for coding. Got the Openport 2.0 from aliexpress for $30 waited a few days and the coding process took about 1 hour.
Super responsive, explained everything and video called to check functionality after coding.
While doing research got my own setup running with xentry xpt, vediamo and DTS. Loads of weekend research coming up 😀
I reached out to Max. As mentioned before, extremely quick response and very nice to deal with. Will let everybody know how it goes after the mods are done.
Last edited by Chrisfast44; Oct 26, 2023 at 07:58 AM.
I reached out to Max. As mentioned before, extremely quick response and very nice to deal with. Will let everybody know how it goes after the mods are done.
Please keep us posted. I was going to try BENZ NINJA but didn't like his business practice nor the complexity of getting the equipment to do the coding.
Thank you for recommending Max,
Was a breeze working with him and very fair pricing for coding. Got the Openport 2.0 from aliexpress for $30 waited a few days and the coding process took about 1 hour.
Super responsive, explained everything and video called to check functionality after coding.
While doing research got my own setup running with xentry xpt, vediamo and DTS. Loads of weekend research coming up 😀
You're welcome.... Good luck with your own setup, sounds exciting. Am interested to chat and exchange knowledge with regards to your setup. I initiated efforts already when I had my W222 for the fun of it, simply inspired by what I did with most of my BMWs over the years. Going back to it soon pending my upcoming Benz : ) Maybe we can chat one day on a weekend when I get the toy am looking for and look into that. I found the coding instructions (couple coding lines to flip for the W213). If you still have W222, I can share the W213 coding info I have, and for the fun of it it might guide u to do the same for W222. Happy W222 ownership!
You're welcome.... Good luck with your own setup, sounds exciting. Am interested to chat and exchange knowledge with regards to your setup. I initiated efforts already when I had my W222 for the fun of it, simply inspired by what I did with most of my BMWs over the years. Going back to it soon pending my upcoming Benz : ) Maybe we can chat one day on a weekend when I get the toy am looking for and look into that. I found the coding instructions (couple coding lines to flip for the W213). If you still have W222, I can share the W213 coding info I have, and for the fun of it it might guide u to do the same for W222. Happy W222 ownership!
Thank you and most definitely. Been an Audi A8L fan a long time and finally made the switch. Used to do all coding on my own and compared to MBZ, Audi is pretty straight forward.
How MBZ changes control unit structure between models is beyond me but guess that's how they roll :-)
From the little testing I've done so far DTS Monaco projects would be the way forward for coding and Xentry for full diagnostics and reporting. Vediamo is good for quick changes.
My entire setup is on a Vmware VM and would be more than happy to share so it will be click and go as long as you have VMware workstation. Although there are few changes in the .vmx file you will have to do on your setup for Xentry to work.
A weekend sounds good!
Hi All, this is Max from EleBest Pte Ltd, I am a new forum sponsor vendor here.
Glad to see many satisfied cliens here and we are here to support you and unlock the full potential of your Mercedes in software coding or via hardware retrofit. My whatsapp: https://wa.me/6597335000, youtube chanel: https://www.youtube.com/@myelebest, facebook EleBestSG, email: elegps@gmail.com, or visit my workshop in Singapore(if you happen to travel here or you stay in Singapore): Save my number now: +6597335000 as "Max EleBest" or "Max EleBest SG" in your phone, you have a new friend from Singapore. Cheers!
Hi All, this is Max from EleBest Pte Ltd, I am a new forum sponsor vendor here.
Glad to see many satisfied cliens here and we are here to support you and unlock the full potential of your Mercedes in software coding or via hardware retrofit. My whatsapp: https://wa.me/6597335000, youtube chanel: https://www.youtube.com/@myelebest, facebook EleBestSG, email: elegps@gmail.com, or visit my workshop in Singapore(if you happen to travel here or you stay in Singapore): Save my number now: +6597335000 as "Max EleBest" or "Max EleBest SG" in your phone, you have a new friend from Singapore. Cheers!
Please keep us posted. I was going to try BENZ NINJA but didn't like his business practice nor the complexity of getting the equipment to do the coding.
@rjautomotive is a good alternative. Plenty of happy users on the forums here. Also a forum sponsor. Only issue is he won't code anything outside of his menu as far as I am aware since my ILS coding back in April.
Welcome Max! Just spoke to you last night on What’s App. Looking forward to getting the cable you recommended and having you do some coding. Thank you!
Originally Posted by EleBest
Hi All, this is Max from EleBest Pte Ltd, I am a new forum sponsor vendor here.
Glad to see many satisfied cliens here and we are here to support you and unlock the full potential of your Mercedes in software coding or via hardware retrofit. My whatsapp: https://wa.me/6597335000, youtube chanel: https://www.youtube.com/@myelebest, facebook EleBestSG, email: elegps@gmail.com, or visit my workshop in Singapore(if you happen to travel here or you stay in Singapore): Save my number now: +6597335000 as "Max EleBest" or "Max EleBest SG" in your phone, you have a new friend from Singapore. Cheers!
Hi All, this is Max from EleBest Pte Ltd, I am a new forum sponsor vendor here.
Glad to see many satisfied cliens here and we are here to support you and unlock the full potential of your Mercedes in software coding or via hardware retrofit. My whatsapp: https://wa.me/6597335000, youtube chanel: https://www.youtube.com/@myelebest, facebook EleBestSG, email: elegps@gmail.com, or visit my workshop in Singapore(if you happen to travel here or you stay in Singapore): Save my number now: +6597335000 as "Max EleBest" or "Max EleBest SG" in your phone, you have a new friend from Singapore. Cheers!
Do you have a coding menu with prices listed anywhere? What is your general process to do coding?
Thanks for asking, Our retrofit or coding listing is listed in our whatsapp business account, Quite a long list and some are model and spec dependent, We will list them in our vendor directory soon. (now preparing). And we open to any coding request, like "Can I code xxx for my car?".
For USA 222/213/214/223/206/254/294/295/296/297: Mostly coded are ILS+ and Digital Light Animation and AMG/Maybach stuff.
For older model: we need a device J2534 compatibility: OpenPort2.0, 5054 (used for vag group), C4 or C5 or C6, etc and sometimes need enet cable (yes. exactly same cable as BMW)
For newer model like 223 206 etc, enet cable
and
A native windows laptop and Fast and Stable internet at your garage.
Enet cable is $10-20, Openport2.0 is around US$20-40, in amazon or ebay or other shop available near you,
Thanks for asking, Our retrofit or coding listing is listed in our whatsapp business account, Quite a long list and some are model and spec dependent, We will list them in our vendor directory soon. (now preparing). And we open to any coding request, like "Can I code xxx for my car?".
For USA 222/213/214/223/206/254/294/295/296/297: Mostly coded are ILS+ and Digital Light Animation and AMG/Maybach stuff.
For older model: we need a device J2534 compatibility: OpenPort2.0, 5054 (used for vag group), C4 or C5 or C6, etc and sometimes need enet cable (yes. exactly same cable as BMW)
For newer model like 223 206 etc, enet cable
and
A native windows laptop and Fast and Stable internet at your garage.
Enet cable is $10-20, Openport2.0 is around US$20-40, in amazon or ebay or other shop available near you,
This is great and welcome. It's always nice to have additional coders and options.
Please keep us posted. I was going to try BENZ NINJA but didn't like his business practice nor the complexity of getting the equipment to do the coding.
@rjautomotive is a good alternative. Plenty of happy users on the forums here. Also a forum sponsor. Only issue is he won't code anything outside of his menu as far as I am aware since my ILS coding back in April. https://rjautomotive.net/pages/coding-options
Same here for my communication with Rjautomotive was positive at least on the responsiveness side; their website shows all their coding services and pricing which is a plus. As u just said, coding options are good though. I was happy with Max from EleBest for the ILS coding as I just had to order the cable and we did the coding same day. Height adjustment coding remains the most uncomfortable one though. Remote coding even when only the c able is needed is good, but I found myself needed to adjust it more than often and it's just not efficient to keep calling your coder to remove it, So decided to go with modules from mwmods when I had my W222 and I felt it's the best compromise for that particular service.
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