Yoke steering?
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It's not so bad if it's steering by wire. But Tesla's implementation is half baked (and dangerous), not unlike their god awful panel gaps and basically anything the Muskrat touches...
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Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your point of view this looks like an interesting scenario.
For the older drivers out there, the drive by wire with computer-controlled decisions on how much input versus how much wheel turn Will be somewhat of an annoyance... Some of the older drivers will deal with the annoyance and move on, and some will complain about it the rest of their driving days
For the younger drivers and those future drivers this will be nothing to them..
The evolution of this system will make it better. Just as all other technologies that become commonplace.
Being in the older driver crowd I look at it and the appearance makes me want to find an issue. But the reality is that this appears to be Something that can be just as reliable as the drive by wire gas pedals That no one complains about anymore... And as much as it pains me to say this, Turning the steering wheel three quarters of a turn is much better than turning the steering wheel two and a half times for the same result... But this is just impossible with a mechanical system... steer by wire BUT IMPROVED OVER THE CURRENT OFFERING SO FAR is the solution..
For the older drivers out there, the drive by wire with computer-controlled decisions on how much input versus how much wheel turn Will be somewhat of an annoyance... Some of the older drivers will deal with the annoyance and move on, and some will complain about it the rest of their driving days
For the younger drivers and those future drivers this will be nothing to them..
The evolution of this system will make it better. Just as all other technologies that become commonplace.
Being in the older driver crowd I look at it and the appearance makes me want to find an issue. But the reality is that this appears to be Something that can be just as reliable as the drive by wire gas pedals That no one complains about anymore... And as much as it pains me to say this, Turning the steering wheel three quarters of a turn is much better than turning the steering wheel two and a half times for the same result... But this is just impossible with a mechanical system... steer by wire BUT IMPROVED OVER THE CURRENT OFFERING SO FAR is the solution..
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I am assuming what you built as a mechanical system (chopped steering wheel) due to the complexity of Building a variable speed /variable steer system (proper name?) .... this system is what fixes the glaring mechanical issues....
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Yes, they look cool but not as useful as conventional steering wheel . Top and bottom straightened steering wheels ( I doubt if these are still steering wheel due to shape of them lol ) are my favorite items just like W212 E63's
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one of them, plenty of other examples but this is probably the cleanest example where it fits the car
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https://resource.logitech.com/conten...-gallery-1.png
That said, Mercedes did advertise something like this (when parked of course):
https://www.thedrive.com/content/201...=70&width=1440
I just hope drivers don't treat driving a game and be more responsible, I wonder if Elon's inspiration was from GTA? That said, Tesla did have games integrated for a while.
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Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your point of view this looks like an interesting scenario.
For the older drivers out there, the drive by wire with computer-controlled decisions on how much input versus how much wheel turn Will be somewhat of an annoyance... Some of the older drivers will deal with the annoyance and move on, and some will complain about it the rest of their driving days
For the younger drivers and those future drivers this will be nothing to them..
The evolution of this system will make it better. Just as all other technologies that become commonplace.
Being in the older driver crowd I look at it and the appearance makes me want to find an issue. But the reality is that this appears to be Something that can be just as reliable as the drive by wire gas pedals That no one complains about anymore... And as much as it pains me to say this, Turning the steering wheel three quarters of a turn is much better than turning the steering wheel two and a half times for the same result... But this is just impossible with a mechanical system... steer by wire BUT IMPROVED OVER THE CURRENT OFFERING SO FAR is the solution..
For the older drivers out there, the drive by wire with computer-controlled decisions on how much input versus how much wheel turn Will be somewhat of an annoyance... Some of the older drivers will deal with the annoyance and move on, and some will complain about it the rest of their driving days
For the younger drivers and those future drivers this will be nothing to them..
The evolution of this system will make it better. Just as all other technologies that become commonplace.
Being in the older driver crowd I look at it and the appearance makes me want to find an issue. But the reality is that this appears to be Something that can be just as reliable as the drive by wire gas pedals That no one complains about anymore... And as much as it pains me to say this, Turning the steering wheel three quarters of a turn is much better than turning the steering wheel two and a half times for the same result... But this is just impossible with a mechanical system... steer by wire BUT IMPROVED OVER THE CURRENT OFFERING SO FAR is the solution..
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Yes, My point exactly... a chopped steering wheel does not give a proper yolk driving experience, and agreed, the steering wheel/yolk is almost irrelevant...
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I have never driven a yoke but I have to say the drive by wire is something that really reppels me, almost as much as brake by wire.
There are two things I want to always have control on my car, even if everything else fails and that's steering and braking. If for any reason my electronics were to die, I know that on my car I'll be able to steer away from danger (or not put myself in the oncoming lane) and brake to a stop, and that's a failsafe I'm not willing to give up.
As for the yoke part, I'm not finding it attractive, I like the "round" wheels where I can grab no matter the position of the wheel and not have a place where the wheel's missing. I'm aware that with a variable ratio of wheel to wheel turn angle, it might not be necessary to turn the wheel more than 120° either side but I don't feel it necessary or even natural.
There are two things I want to always have control on my car, even if everything else fails and that's steering and braking. If for any reason my electronics were to die, I know that on my car I'll be able to steer away from danger (or not put myself in the oncoming lane) and brake to a stop, and that's a failsafe I'm not willing to give up.
As for the yoke part, I'm not finding it attractive, I like the "round" wheels where I can grab no matter the position of the wheel and not have a place where the wheel's missing. I'm aware that with a variable ratio of wheel to wheel turn angle, it might not be necessary to turn the wheel more than 120° either side but I don't feel it necessary or even natural.
