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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 12:20 PM
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Ignoring engine attributes and capabilities, can anyone give me a good, unemotional comparison of what the AMG offers over an S50 with MBC.
My interest is only as it relates to ride comfort, and driveability, if that's a valid term, Acceleration, top speeds, handling at top speeds are not of interest, so please don't waste your time and mine in extolling one over the other in these areas.
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 12:53 PM
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Just imho you are not an AMG buyer. You are tossing all of the reasons to consider one upfront.

Stick wIth the S560
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 01:30 PM
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Just imho you are not an AMG buyer. You are tossing all of the reasons to consider one upfront.

Stick wIth the S560
Well that's a response of a sort, even if it is negatively emotional.
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My interpretation is "The only reason to consider the AMG is its engine."
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 01:45 PM
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And the chassis tuning and the brakes and the exhaust.

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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 02:04 PM
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If you want more comfort ( not so sure about drivability ) than your S560 you may try a S600, and, yes, I used to own a CL600 for many years, sold it only because it was getting old.
Fantastic piece of Mercedes engineering !
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 03:20 PM
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If you want performance, acceleration, speed AND comfort the S63 is the way to go. Engine & driving performance is why you would buy the S63 over the S560.

I should know, I have been buying new S Class cars for over 30 years with my current S Class being a '19 S63 AMG that was delivered to me in Sindelfingen Germany in late 2018 and my Autobahn driving proved that it in fact goes 186 mph. Of course the US roads don't allow 186 so it has not seen the top speed since late 2018. I am on my dealers list to get the upcoming hybrid S63 E Performance--maybe I will keep both since of all my 30 years of buying S class cars the absolute best car I have ever owned for performance and comfort is the '19 S63--love the car with 50000 miles on the baby!! By the way I also own 2 2023 Corvette Z06s and race an open cockpit race car in the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA) so I do know about performance and you can't beat the S63 for performance, comfort and luxury. WHAT A CAR! And yes I am emotional about it because the S63 not only includes everything the S560 has but it is like a race car when you want it to be!

Note--my avatar is a pic from my European Delivery in the Center for Excellence at the plant in Sindelfingen Germany and the pic below at a Mercedes Benz AMG Driving Academy event at Road Atlanta.

Originally Posted by Lou B
Ignoring engine attributes and capabilities, can anyone give me a good, unemotional comparison of what the AMG offers over an S50 with MBC.
My interest is only as it relates to ride comfort, and driveability, if that's a valid term, Acceleration, top speeds, handling at top speeds are not of interest, so please don't waste your time and mine in extolling one over the other in these areas.
Thanks for your efforts!

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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 03:29 PM
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I went from a 2015 S550 to a 2019 S63 and the S63 has a harsher ride, this can be changed with programming to behave very similarly to the S550/S560 but I have not done this. The S63 is also not available with MBC as it is 4Matic. You are comparing an apple to an orange, one is a luxobarge the other is a large sports sedan. There are thousands of parts differences between the 2 platforms.
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lou B
Well that's a response of a sort, even if it is negatively emotional.
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My interpretation is "The only reason to consider the AMG is its engine."
The engine, tighter suspension, more responsive handling, V8 sound. I agree you don't sound like an AMG buyer.
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Correct! OP wants to ignore the reasons to buy a S63 like the engine!

Originally Posted by TripleDown
Just imho you are not an AMG buyer. You are tossing all of the reasons to consider one upfront.

Stick wIth the S560
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MTrauman
If you want performance, acceleration, speed AND comfort the S63 is the way to go. Engine & driving performance is why you would buy the S63 over the S560.

I should know, I have been buying new S Class cars for over 30 years with my current S Class being a '19 S63 AMG that was delivered to me in Sindelfingen Germany in late 2018 and my Autobahn driving proved that it in fact goes 186 mph. Of course the US roads don't allow 186 so it has not seen the top speed since late 2018. I am on my dealers list to get the upcoming hybrid S63 E Performance--maybe I will keep both since of all my 30 years of buying S class cars the absolute best car I have ever owned for performance and comfort is the '19 S63--love the car with 50000 miles on the baby!! By the way I also own 2 2023 Corvette Z06s and race an open cockpit race car in the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA) so I do know about performance and you can't beat the S63 for performance, comfort and luxury. WHAT A CAR! And yes I am emotional about it because the S63 not only includes everything the S560 has but it is like a race car when you want it to be!

Note--my avatar is a pic from my European Delivery in the Center for Excellence at the plant in Sindelfingen Germany and the pic below at a Mercedes Benz AMG Driving Academy event at Road Atlanta.
Agree with MT here, my S63 is one of the best cars I have ever owned. They are awesome cars.
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 04:02 PM
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I am an old timer and have been working on cars (including building one of a kinds for over 5 decades) for probably longer than some of you have been alive. Tomorrow I will pick up Mercedes # 70 and car # 486 from my friends MB dealer near my home in the Philadelphia suburbs. I drove the S63 and the S560 (both Coupes which was what I wanted) and for my purpose the S560 was the better choice. I have other cars that I use when I want to drive something fast (and in my case truly scary) and while the 560 is not fast it is quick enough for a GT type car. I also used to train drivers (including racers) and though my skills have been eroded a bit due to old age (arthritis eyesight hearing), I can still handle a car better than 98% of non-professional drivers. These are street cars and while the urge to have bragging rights (mine is more powerful) is certainly a part of buying these cars there is not much the average driver can do with the S63 that could not be done with the S560. It really come down to what your purpose is for the car since they are both in my opinion great cars and you would not go wrong with either one. My reason for the 560 was simple I wanted another S Class and I hate the screens in the new S Class sedan (I have 2022 750 because I hate the screens in the 23 as well) and the coupe is a better driver's car than the sedan and this one was loaded with low miles. The opinions above are all valid but OP you have to decide what your purpose for this car is and no one but you can decide that. Good luck
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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 07:12 AM
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You can't beat the S560 Coupes for looks nor the CL550's (ealier version, just name change). Owned both types and am looking online at a '18 S Coupe with 13K miles for approx $67,500 smackers.

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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 02:29 PM
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I am an old timer and have been working on cars (including building one of a kinds for over 5 decades) for probably longer than some of you have been alive. Tomorrow I will pick up Mercedes # 70 and car # 486 from my friends MB dealer near my home in the Philadelphia suburbs. I drove the S63 and the S560 (both Coupes which was what I wanted) and for my purpose the S560 was the better choice. I have other cars that I use when I want to drive something fast (and in my case truly scary) and while the 560 is not fast it is quick enough for a GT type car. I also used to train drivers (including racers) and though my skills have been eroded a bit due to old age (arthritis eyesight hearing), I can still handle a car better than 98% of non-professional drivers. These are street cars and while the urge to have bragging rights (mine is more powerful) is certainly a part of buying these cars there is not much the average driver can do with the S63 that could not be done with the S560. It really come down to what your purpose is for the car since they are both in my opinion great cars and you would not go wrong with either one. My reason for the 560 was simple I wanted another S Class and I hate the screens in the new S Class sedan (I have 2022 750 because I hate the screens in the 23 as well) and the coupe is a better driver's car than the sedan and this one was loaded with low miles. The opinions above are all valid but OP you have to decide what your purpose for this car is and no one but you can decide that. Good luck
My sincere thanks to all who responded, regardless of motivation.

The above answer was the most sympathetic to my original post, and the most helpful.
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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 05:08 PM
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Happy New Year Lou!!
I held back on responding because of the nature of the question, glad you found the information given helpful. I made the switch from a 2017 S550 to a 2018 S63; it was a great choice for me, but my taste and preferences are the opposite of yours.
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My interest is only as it relates to ride comfort, and driveability, if that's a valid term... Acceleration, top speeds, handling at top speeds are not of interest. Thanks for your efforts!
For me, it comes down to one question: Which one has the lowest levels of NVH? Since engine/exhaust noise is louder in the AMG, plus the firmer ride and steering tuning... I won't personally own an AMG S-class. I could be talked into owning some other AMG model, in addition to my S-class, but it would have to be a 3rd vehicle, as I always foresee myself prioritizing low NVH levels in both our primary vehicles.

I've test driven the S63, but mainly just for giggles (it was fun!). I already knew which one I wanted, as the answer hasn't changed since my first S-Class (2005 S500)...

"Give me the quietest, softest, smoothest one. Where do I sign."
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A tuned M278 or M176 won't leave you upset right after you swap the cars . I say W222 S63 is my dream car but honestly such cars would defeat the purpose of what is the most important things of an S Class : Comfort .Don't get me wrong S63 is still comfortable enough to me but what's the point of making such cars is beyond me while any regular S Class could deliver it as well. Perhaps, it must be same response why would anyone need a G63 AMG
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Originally Posted by Lou B
Ignoring engine attributes and capabilities, can anyone give me a good, unemotional comparison of what the AMG offers over an S50 with MBC.
My interest is only as it relates to ride comfort, and driveability, if that's a valid term, Acceleration, top speeds, handling at top speeds are not of interest, so please don't waste your time and mine in extolling one over the other in these areas.
Thanks for your efforts!
Obviously the AMG will have worse ride comfort. Why are you even considering the AMG, if the sole reasons to get an AMG are not of interest to you?

It’s like asking decaf or regular coffee? You don’t want caffeine and all the regular coffee stuff. Get decaf then…

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Originally Posted by Lou B
Ignoring engine attributes and capabilities, can anyone give me a good, unemotional comparison of what the AMG offers over an S50 with MBC.
My interest is only as it relates to ride comfort, and driveability, if that's a valid term, Acceleration, top speeds, handling at top speeds are not of interest, so please don't waste your time and mine in extolling one over the other in these areas.
Thanks for your efforts!
I think that the seats in the S63 are better.
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BenzNinja can actually tune the S63 suspension mapping to match the S560 mapping so in comfort mode it feels very comparable to an S560. Have not done this but might at some point. If all you care about though is a quiet cabin then the S560 is the car to buy.
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Old Jan 6, 2024 | 05:21 PM
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Again, thanks, for all responses.

Particular thanks to the few who responded to my message rather than pushing his own agenda, or questioning why I posted in the first place.
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Glad to see you succeeded in being irritated, which is what you set the expectation you were going to wind up being in your first post lol
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Glad to see you succeeded in being irritated, which is what you set the expectation you were going to wind up being in your first post lol
Everybody a tongue, and often one that has to taste sour. After all these years, why does human nature still surprise me so often? It would truly be interesting to know the ages of those who took issue with my question.
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No issue with your question, it’s the way you’re just looking for something to be crabby about.
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Lou smoothest, quietest least NVH will be a Maybach with the V12. You won’t feel it idling and it will be silent at most speeds.

Drive some cars and compare. You’ll see.

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I have had 3 S-Sedans, all with ABC (last one has Magic Body Control, with cameras, etc.). Looked for the current (used, loaded) car for 2 years. To experience what the hydraulic suspension brings to the vehicle, you need to drive one, back to back, with one with pneumatic suspension. Ideally, drive both the standard S class and the AMG-both with pneumatic suspension. IMHO, there is NO COMPARISON, especially the latest MBC, with curve control capabilities. My current 2015 with MBC is phenomenal in all aspects. Goes like crazy (almost scares me), stops extremely well, handles curves with aplomb and is an Engineering Masterpiece.
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