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Old 08-31-2024, 03:02 PM
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Why does everything wear so fast?

Unless I’m tracking my Corvette the tires last 20,000 miles. Plugs on that high compression motor are rated for 100,000 miles - same for the coolant and trans fluids. I change mine much sooner, especially the brake fluid but still?
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Say more words...what exactly is wearing so fast?
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Well to start, 10K for tires, 50K for spark plugs, transfluid, brakes fluid and Radiator flush and fill.
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Are you talking about your corvette or the S-Class? 10k for tires is excessive. I'm about 22k miles on a set of tires I put on last year (Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4) and there is still a lot of life left, eyeballing I'd say more than 40% tread life left. Staggered, stock 19 inchers. I'm expecting probably 30k miles out of them, seeing as I can't rotate them. I don't drive it like I stole it though, 99% of the time I drive off at the light/stop signs easily, you wouldn't spill a drink if you were drinking and I drove off. I can't say the same with friends and family... I guess I'm not the norm.
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Are you talking about your corvette or the S-Class? 10k for tires is excessive. I'm about 22k miles on a set of tires I put on last year (Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4) and there is still a lot of life left, eyeballing I'd say more than 40% tread life left. Staggered, stock 19 inchers. I'm expecting probably 30k miles out of them, seeing as I can't rotate them. I don't drive it like I stole it though, 99% of the time I drive off at the light/stop signs easily, you wouldn't spill a drink if you were drinking and I drove off. I can't say the same with friends and family... I guess I'm not the norm.
I can use any car, but I’m comparing using a Corvette only because I own one (I can say the same for Cadillacs) as they are notorious for fast wear on their tires Vs an S Class or an AMG S63. So far I’ve looked at over couple dozen Carfax reports for MB S class cars that document tire replacements often at 10 to 15 thousand miles.
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Are you talking about the 65?
The V12 s are bad but that's just because it's a dinosaour but if you got the V12 you knew it was stupid.
​​​​​The rest of the range is pretty decent on maintenance.
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Who told you tires would only last 10k?

These are big heavy cars, and yeah they go through tires quickly and brakes, but not every 10k. An AMG one maybe.

Mercedes has a very aggressive factory maintenance schedule…meaning they over maintain.

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All about the performance - you want high speed and cornering ability and braking ability well then SOFT high speed rated tires which do not last long.

you want long lasting tires? buy a EV or hybrid - them tires designed for super low rolling resistance - fancy word for low dynamic friction coefficient aka low rolling grip.
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In the 70's "tune-ups" (points, condenser, plugs) were 5K mile maintenance, oil was not synthetic, carburetors required cleaning and adjusting, and tires were bias-ply 20K mile wonders (retreads maybe 10K). Wear factors have much improved since then.
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Actually EVs destroy tires due to weight and torque characteristics.
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I get 15-20,000 miles out of tires on my 2015 S-65. Fronts last longer than rear (shock! Amazement!).

There is no cheating physics. Ask this much weight to accelerate, decelerate and change direction the way it is able to.... Yes; it eats tires.

I don’t cry about it as I love how the car performs. I love how she shoves me in the seat. How she dances through the turns.

If I wanted tires to last forever I may drive a base model Corolla or some other yawn inducing junk that isn’t able to raise my heart rate.

OP I assume you drive the Corvette as it amuses you to do so. We get to maintain them.

There is sooooo much more to life than good gas mileage.... or tire life.
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Originally Posted by VII
Are you talking about the 65?
The V12 s are bad but that's just because it's a dinosaour but if you got the V12 you knew it was stupid.
​​​​​The rest of the range is pretty decent on maintenance.
Just tires for mine. Brakes don’t wear out like your car.
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Drive conservatively and your tires will wear out normally...roll off the line smoothly and not to the point where you feel you're pushed back into your seat. If you like to push it fast, well, you'll pay the price. Same with a sport car, you can drive those conservatively as not waste tires. Same with gas, you're not going to get the high end of the MPG ratings if you drive it hard. Drive it normally and you'll get exactly or even better than the ratings. Point is, the car itself isn't the reason why the tires or things wear out faster. It's the driver. You drive it hard, expect things to wear out faster. You corner it hard, on on-ramps etc, don't be surprised is your suspension parts need replacing sooner than the neighbor's grandma's S-class that isn't driven the same way.
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Drive conservatively and your tires will wear out normally...roll off the line smoothly and not to the point where you feel you're pushed back into your seat. If you like to push it fast, well, you'll pay the price. Same with a sport car, you can drive those conservatively as not waste tires. Same with gas, you're not going to get the high end of the MPG ratings if you drive it hard. Drive it normally and you'll get exactly or even better than the ratings. Point is, the car itself isn't the reason why the tires or things wear out faster. It's the driver. You drive it hard, expect things to wear out faster. You corner it hard, on on-ramps etc, don't be surprised is your suspension parts need replacing sooner than the neighbor's grandma's S-class that isn't driven the same way.
These are my findings as well. After putting 15k miles on the S, brake wear is almost not noticeable, front tires are at around 33% remaining, rears have 50% remaining.

Shorter spark plug life is an issue of all turbo engines. Normally aspiration engines can go 100k on a set of plugs - turbos require change at around 50k. Not just a Benz thing.


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Originally Posted by MrMischief
Well to start, 10K for tires, 50K for spark plugs, transfluid, brakes fluid and Radiator flush and fill.
As to tires:: the more traction a tire has the shorter its life. GT tires last longer than R-Compound tires.
if you drive like grandma tires last longer than if you drive like a race car driver.

As to brakes:: do not use Distronic-Plus where it make constant speed corrections:: each correction
uses more of the pads.
If you see that you have to come to a stop, take the car out of gear and coast to the stop.

As to brake fluid:: when tracking a car you want fluid that is less than 1 week old.
when driving normally you can go quite a while--
just don't attempt multiple stops from 150-MPH in a row.

As to trans fluid:: compare the cost of the fluid to a new transmission and make your own choice.
Also note: using high engine HP heats up transmission components shortening the
life of the fluids.

As to spark plugs:: if you let the plugs get to the point they misfire; you can take a coil pack with the plug.
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Heavy model and costly, premature, excess edge tire wear !

Simple to resolve - it all comes down to the basic fact OEM - FRONT & REAR “CAMBER ADJUSTMENT” HAS BEEN DELETED.

NO LONGER THE ABILITY TO ADJUST TIRE CONTACT ANGLES SPREAD LOAD MORE EVENLY. Excess edge load can also lead to ruptured side walls and rim damage.

NEW CAR INDUSTRY'S BEST KEPT SECRET - The Often Quoted Re assuring “WILL CARRY OUT “FULL FRONT & REAR ‘4’ WHEEL ALIGNMENT” - IS NOW ONLY “TOE” - directional adjustment (Even W222 AMG S63/65 Performance models).

WHY - IT’S ALL TO DO WITH COST CUTTING AND “EVER INCREASING SPEED” OF NEW CAR ASSEMBLY LINES. Camber (and Caster) is now at one setting only - showroom height (STOPPING TO ALIGN / ADJUST IS NO LONGER AN OPTION).

NOW NO “ONGOING ADJUSTMENT” - to cater for excess passenger side edge wear through high cambered roads. Wheel squat / camber change causing excess “inner” edge wear on both sides through extra passenger loads or lowering vehicle height. Fitting wide profile tires or performance / spirited driving and not being able to adjust, compensate for excess “outer” edge wear !

ALL DEALERS CAN OFFER OBSERVING THE EXCESS EDGE WEAR (to try and placate) - that it is within factory specs (at showroom height).

K-MAC HAS THE EXPERIENCE OF RESOLVING OEM SUSPENSION SHORTCOMINGS SINCE 1964 !

WE SAW THE NEED THEREFORE TO PROVIDE FRONT CAMBER (AND CASTER) ALONG WITH REAR CAMBER (AND EXTRA TOE).

K-MAC KITS SPECIALLY DESIGNED SO “BOLT-ON” - No special tools or need for control arm removal to install.

SEE SPOILER (TO FIX IT RIGHT - THE 1ST. TIME).

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