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So, perhaps our tax discussion will enlighten a few ppl here. If not, let’s try not to lose too much sleep over it.
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Any word on the digital headlights, they are not a current option. My dealer thinks they will be standard equipment on the Maybach, and will be an option in 2022 for the S Class. Any thoughts?
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Well, I guess there are plenty of ppl who don’t factor-in sales taxes before purchasing a new car, given what the finance mgr at a large Mercedes dealership told me. The proof is in the pudding, and he’s seen it, more than once.
So, perhaps our tax discussion will enlighten a few ppl here. If not, let’s try not to lose too much sleep over it.
So, perhaps our tax discussion will enlighten a few ppl here. If not, let’s try not to lose too much sleep over it.
If you like to further discuss it, open a new thread in then Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums. Thanks
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Hopefully they ship the Digital Light headlights and dumb it down via software for future use instead of installing the lesser intelligent lighting system. Doubt it though
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Thanks, Wolfman. Very disappointing given all of the hype from MB. I am ready to order the new S Class, but was hoping to get the digital headlights. I’ll wait a bit to see if there is any clarification from MB.
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Well, this is where we need to blame the US government agencies, not Mercedes. It’s available everywhere else in the world when launched.
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Well, I guess there are plenty of ppl who don’t factor-in sales taxes before purchasing a new car, given what the finance mgr at a large Mercedes dealership told me. The proof is in the pudding, and he’s seen it, more than once.
So, perhaps our tax discussion will enlighten a few ppl here. If not, let’s try not to lose too much sleep over it.
So, perhaps our tax discussion will enlighten a few ppl here. If not, let’s try not to lose too much sleep over it.
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I’m not a moderator by any stretch of the imagination, but can we get back to topic of this thread? Seems it’s veering way off to taxes, etc.
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Back to the spec sheet. I ordered a 2021 S580 today, but there was some confusion about the interior. I ordered the Exclusive Macchiato and Magma Gray interior. The spec sheet says “requires 65U beige Dinamica headliner”. When the dealer built the car on the computer, 65U comes up as “porcelain Dinamica headliner”. I have a 2020 GLE with this same interior and the headliner is light beige which looks very nice. Any idea which headliner, beige or porcelain, is the right one? Thanks for any insight.
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Back to the spec sheet. I ordered a 2021 S580 today, but there was some confusion about the interior. I ordered the Exclusive Macchiato and Magma Gray interior. The spec sheet says “requires 65U beige Dinamica headliner”. When the dealer built the car on the computer, 65U comes up as “porcelain Dinamica headliner”. I have a 2020 GLE with this same interior and the headliner is light beige which looks very nice. Any idea which headliner, beige or porcelain, is the right one? Thanks for any insight.
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Back to the spec sheet. I ordered a 2021 S580 today, but there was some confusion about the interior. I ordered the Exclusive Macchiato and Magma Gray interior. The spec sheet says “requires 65U beige Dinamica headliner”. When the dealer built the car on the computer, 65U comes up as “porcelain Dinamica headliner”. I have a 2020 GLE with this same interior and the headliner is light beige which looks very nice. Any idea which headliner, beige or porcelain, is the right one? Thanks for any insight.
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The computer order banks are open for the S580 4Matic only, I ordered my car at Mercedes Benz of Naples on Friday. No prices yet, but orders are being logged in. Delivery is currently the first half of 2021. Prices are expected soon and I will be advised of the expected build date when the factory schedules the car. Best realistic guess on delivery is March.
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A further note on my order. I really like the AMG body style and I went with it on my order. But it was a compromise. I wanted the multi-spoke wheel which is only available in 21” (2 designs available) and comes with high performance run-flats. I did not want a 21” wheel or the high performance run-flat, but I had no choice unless I wanted a 5 spoke wheel. Also, the AGM body style does not allow the 10 degree rear wheel steering. You can only get the 4.5 degree steering because of the large wheel size and different wheel sizes front to rear. All in all, not enough to change me from ordering the AMG body style, but a bit disappointing that I could not get all of the features that I wanted. Now the wait begins!
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A further note on my order. I really like the AMG body style and I went with it on my order. But it was a compromise. I wanted the multi-spoke wheel which is only available in 21” (2 designs available) and comes with high performance run-flats. I did not want a 21” wheel or the high performance run-flat, but I had no choice unless I wanted a 5 spoke wheel. Also, the AGM body style does not allow the 10 degree rear wheel steering. You can only get the 4.5 degree steering because of the large wheel size and different wheel sizes front to rear. All in all, not enough to change me from ordering the AMG body style, but a bit disappointing that I could not get all of the features that I wanted. Now the wait begins!
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If you look at the spec sheet in the initial posting that started this thread, the 10 degree steering (code 216) is shown as standard equipment on the Executive Package, it is not listed anywhere as an option, not for the Luxury Package or the AMG Package. Under the section on the AMG Package, the 4.5 rear wheel steering is the only rear wheel option shown. See pages 5,6,7, (page numbers in the lower right corner of the spec sheets). You may be right, but when I mentioned that I wanted rear wheel steering, no one mentioned that 10 degrees was an option for the AMG Package if I changed to smaller wheels. I’ll stop by the dealer tomorrow to see if they can clarify.
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If you look at the spec sheet in the initial posting that started this thread, the 10 degree steering (code 216) is shown as standard equipment on the Executive Package, it is not listed anywhere as an option, not for the Luxury Package or the AMG Package. Under the section on the AMG Package, the 4.5 rear wheel steering is the only rear wheel option shown. See pages 5,6,7, (page numbers in the lower right corner of the spec sheets). You may be right, but when I mentioned that I wanted rear wheel steering, no one mentioned that 10 degrees was an option for the AMG Package if I changed to smaller wheels. I’ll stop by the dealer tomorrow to see if they can clarify.
https://www.mercedes-benz.de/passeng...ts.module.html
If you download the price list and refer to pages 14/15, and translate to English (I used google translate), it clearly states availability for AMG line for the 3 wheel types I stated above, which specifically reference code 216.
Here’s the price list (in German)
https://www.mercedes-benz.de/content...sine-WV223.pdf
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If you look at the spec sheet in the initial posting that started this thread, the 10 degree steering (code 216) is shown as standard equipment on the Executive Package, it is not listed anywhere as an option, not for the Luxury Package or the AMG Package. Under the section on the AMG Package, the 4.5 rear wheel steering is the only rear wheel option shown. See pages 5,6,7, (page numbers in the lower right corner of the spec sheets). You may be right, but when I mentioned that I wanted rear wheel steering, no one mentioned that 10 degrees was an option for the AMG Package if I changed to smaller wheels. I’ll stop by the dealer tomorrow to see if they can clarify.
10 degree rear wheel steering is limited based on tire size (max 255/40 R20). But of course this doesn't mean that MB will make it available to all lines at this time (luxury/AMG/Executive).
My recommendation for anyone interested in ordering the new S right now. Simply order as close of a config as possible to have it in the system; these orders will not be locked for months and can be changed as more options come online.
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Unfortunately, yes, and I don’t have the final price because Mercedes has not released prices yet. Mercedes of Naples is owned by Automotive Management Services which owns the Mercedes dealership in nearby Bonita Springs and numerous other MB dealerships in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area. None of these dealerships will move off list price on new models.
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Would you please give us a breakdown of how that discount was arrived at? Are you a member of some group that qualified you for some substantial discount not available to non-members? Would really like to know these details. Thanks in advance.
